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@King Cosmos As much as I love Discord, I want to keep this on RP Guild as it also keeps the thread alive and the discord server would just be sitting there doing nothing. plus we don't get anything out of having a discord over this
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Jokes aside, while I'd have liked a little more creativity in the card choices.

I kind of don't get how your number 1 relates to his deck, though, if I may be entirely honest. Nor dancing, nor the moon nor cute monster girls seem to be a key part of Lance and I don't feel like someone who only tries as hard as they need to for their goals falls in line with that deck. If anything I'd see him play something a lot slowe.


In terms of constructive criticism I'm interested in what card choices you might have made for the deck. Your criticism on both points is definitely valid, I did make Lance and then give him a deck that I found fun. With that in mind I might re-arrange my characters a bit, not entirely sure what I want to change it to but I know I want to change it.
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In terms of constructive criticism I'm interested in what card choices you might have made for the deck.


I'll get back to you on this depending on whether or not you try to shuffle things around, but generally, I spend about 20 minutes brainstorming on YGOrpo and taking note of the most interesting cards I can find.
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It's also worth looking at the wiki, using the support categories (e.g. "Fiend-type support cards") to find some interesting options you wouldn't otherwise. Until I searched for DARK-type support, I forgot the Virus cards existed and didn't even know they'd made another one (Full Force Virus).
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I forgot the Virus cards existed and didn't even know they'd made another one (Full Force Virus).


If you're talking about the one that comes with the Darklord structure deck it's brand new. It's not even out in the TCG as far as I know.
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If you're talking about the one that comes with the Darklord structure deck it's brand new. It's not even out in the TCG as far as I know.


You're thinking of Grinning Grave Virus, which'll come out in Lair of Darkness on April 20th in the TCG.

It's extremely destructive, though. As to be expected of the actual cardgame that continues to spiral out control with better and better cards.

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You're thinking of Grinning Grave Virus, which'll come out in Lair of Darkness on April 20th in the TCG.


That's the one. I don't know why, but I was thinking that was a Darklord deck; I don't think the new cards are actually part of an archetype though, they just all work well together.
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I also didn't know about Grinning Grave Virus (which I will research later, as YGO wiki hates my phone) but no really I mean Full Force Virus.
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That's the one. I don't know why, but I was thinking that was a Darklord deck; I don't think the new cards are actually part of an archetype though, they just all work well together.


Well, the new cards are very dark-centered, so it makes sense I guess lol. It's going to be very strong for a structure deck, probably on-par if not better than the Dinosaur one. (Which wrecked the TCG for awhile) with a few meta adjustments.

We'll probably see a new banlist late-april, too. Hopefully like the OCG we get Shaddoll Construct unbanned.

I also didn't know about Grinning Grave Virus (which I will research later, as YGO wiki hates my phone) but no really I mean Full Force Virus.


Yeah, that's another Virus card that's pretty devastating (Hell, all of the Virus cards are painful to get hit with, depending on the deck you're playing). Nowadays it's not difficult to get monsters on the field to use any of them, either.
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Well, the new cards are very dark-centered, so it makes sense I guess lol. It's going to be very strong for a structure deck, probably on-par if not better than the Dinosaur one. (Which wrecked the TCG for awhile) with a few meta adjustments.


I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh or even followed it for a couple years now; I stopped back when the first Kozmo cards were first being released. I don't know what the current meta looks like but the Lair of Darkness deck does look interesting and very strong. A field spell that makes it so that you can tribute your opponents monsters, something that nothing really has a defense against except this decks boss monster, for their own effects is crazy.

Plus, if I am reading the effects right, the fact that you can tribute a dark monster you control to search the boss dragon, then immediately summon that dragon because you tributed a dark monster this turn, because the boss does not have to have been in your hand when the tribute was made to be able to activate the self summon effect.

I can see the field card being limited if this deck does well and maybe the search monster as well.
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I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh or even followed it for a couple years now; I stopped back when the first Kozmo cards were first being released. I don't know what the current meta looks like but the Lair of Darkness deck does look interesting and very strong. A field spell that makes it so that you can tribute your opponents monsters, something that nothing really has a defense against except this decks boss monster, for their own effects is crazy.

Plus, if I am reading the effects right, the fact that you can tribute a dark monster you control to search the boss dragon, then immediately summon that dragon because you tributed a dark monster this turn, because the boss does not have to have been in your hand when the tribute was made to be able to activate the self summon effect.

I can see the field card being limited if this deck does well and maybe the search monster as well.


Lair of Darkness is a pretty good field spell, as with the tribute effect of Diabolos it basically becomes a potential hand-loop /w Kaiju tribute effect stacked on top of it. The single token isn't a big disadvantage to use the tribute effect on your opponent's turn anyways,and on your turn you get a free token for potentially nuking one monster your opponent has, while also making them put a card back in the deck. Even while down to 1 this card could be really good.

Diabolos is just -super- easy to get out. That being said, it's not the be-all end all boss monster. Ultimate Conductor Tyranno is even easier to summon and easily outs Diabolos by either flat-out destroying it in battle or by flipping it (As U.C.T doesn't target with it's flip effect) Though in return if Lair is active then Diabolos can just tribute U.C.T. and call it a day. Though Dinos can combo heavily, so they'll possibly already bait out your effect or use U.C.T as bait for it then make extensive plays.

It'l require some testing though it's looking strong for this year. Pend magicians are getting hit hard, so along with Zefra and Dinos this deck could get high in the tiers with some tinkering. Curious to see the plays people think of.

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@MidKnights@ThePlumbum@King Cosmos@Deluge Ayy we've started.

We're opening up on a duel which is going to be pretty rigid, but don't worry too much about it. It'll be rigid for only 1-2 posts or so and after that we're letting you guys loose and free.
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I'll have my modified CS sheet up sometime today/tonight/before I go to bed.
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Shifted a few things around.

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@Eklispethere appears to be a tvtropes link in your CS
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Yes. I found it to be relevant.
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@Eklispewell ima assume these fixes were for Ammo's nitpicks and not my not very existant nitpicks plus you were accepted by me anyways if everything is fine on his end after he checks tomorrow alls good
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@Eklispe Ye, looks fine to me. You also wanted me to suggest cards, so:

-Moon Mirror Shield: Battle-focused archetype and a moon-based card.
-Three Strike Barrier: Lunalight are very battle-focused, so this is a protection trap that slots right in.
-The Grave of Enkindling: Bring back Cat or Panther Dancer and use it to fuse the next turn. Bonus points if you combo it with something like Defenders Intersect.
-Fusion Guard: Protection for effect damage and gets one of your Lunalight Fusions in the GY.
-Tri-and-Guess: Ez 3000 LP against non-fusion users.
-Prideful Roar: When all else fails, go full Jack Atlas. This one's just a personal favorite of mine.

Admittedly it's a lot of traps and not a lot of spells because traps are something your deck list didn't seem to have a lot of.
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-Moon Mirror is nice but it's awfully counter-intuitive to what lunalights do. That is to say beatsticking the daylights out of them. It's alright on cat dancer I suppose.
-This seems like Waboku but harder to use. Admittedly you could get a bit of LP but, I'd rather not worry about my opponent having precisely 3 cards. It is pretty dramatic though...
-This is... Pretty alright.
-Boy countering effect damage is situationally uselessful, I mean we are running heart of the cards but I'd rather not base my choices off that. I'd prob run Cattle Call over this.
-Don't need lp if they're dead right :<
-I mean it's a nice card but there are very few situation in which Lunalights are out attacked.

Most traps are based around disrupting your opponent and for the purposes of drama/Lance's style/having fun it's best to let you and your opponent simply clash with the full strength of your respective decks.

Thank you for the card suggestions though. The Grave of Enkindling is something I've never seen/heard of and is actually ok, while Three Strike Barrier and Prideful Roar were also unknown to me. ^.^
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@Eklispe I'm just a fan of using strictly worse cards as they tend to lead to more interesting situations. It's why you have stuff like Desperate Maneuver in ZeXal while Kaito could've just used Shrink, it advances the gamestate in a way that isn't just strictly positive.

Also, not banking on the heart of the cards is like, totally missing the point here.
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