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First post finally up! I hope you enjoy! ^_^
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I hope you like reading. My post got a little long.
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It's perfect! I love it! Now to do damage control! BFFLFAEAEAETI MODE ACTIVATED!
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HA! Yep! I can't get over that abbreviation.

Oh, I have no idea where Ruby going there was largely to pick up Alex after work, as much as to hang out with her while on shift, came from. For some reason, I thought it was hinted at somewhere, but now I think I was hallucinating. You okay with that? Small thing, but thought I'd ask, anyway.

Edit: Thought I'd add that I found a reference picture I liked for Fiona! Added it to my Character tab post. Couldn't find anything for Parker, though. Not that I'd consider him an "important" side character. He's just your standard side character. Right now, anyway.
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It was a stroke of genius I tell you! Lmao

Haha no worries at all! As someone who doesn't drive and ubers everywhere I can make that believable lol!

I'll be posting an image if Lacey in the character tab shortly! Just gotta find it again as my phone decided to not keep the tab!

Also hopefully you enjoy Brahm and like the idea of matching revenge outfits haha!
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Still can't find the image for Lacey but I'm still digging!

But I just saw this movie called barbarian where the main cast ends up renting an air bnb at the same time and I cannot stop thinking of this vine!



So now my brain has gone through a whole scene of the Vander and Alex being roommates! xD
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Hope the wait was worth it! xD A vampire feeding NOT always being all dainty and elegant is one of my favoite routes with that, and it felt like it would fit with other descriptions you've given, so I hope you don't mind! If I ever break your idea of vampires for this (or for Vander's abilities in particular) enough to bother you, please don't hesitate to let me know!

I'm in a similar boat with driving. I have some weird medical things that prevent me from it, so I rely on others for rides!

Eh, if you can't find the photo, no worries! As long as you describe her and throw in the occasional reminder. Of course, do whatever works best for you, though! While a benefit to a RP is that you can get away with replacing a description with a photo, I personally like keeping in the practice of describing things So, you know, sorry now for repeated info like that. Enough habits tend to bleed over from here into my writing as is. xD I remember I once started using the BBC tags for italics in something I'd had zero intention to post anywhere. Was using Word, so didn't have any reason to use it.

I am so lost with that vine! xD But oh my gosh. That sounds like a fun imagining!

Edit: By the way, I meant to ask. What in the world is a "spin?" I tried looking it up, and got info about a trick for "flair bartending," but it looks to me like that might not be right, considering what it is. I, uh, don't go to bars. I swear, I really am over 21! 😆😕 Those "weird medical things" have just turned drinking into something super annoying and really not smart for me to do, and I haven't found any other reason to go to a bar.
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No it was perfect! Honestly gruesome vampire murders are mode my style anyways! I want my vampires to look like they just went through a spicy noodle mukkbang challenge rather than them appearing as if they had ultimate table manners at a five star restaurant lol

See I just have a thing called "fear of giant death metal machines" that prevents me. I'm slowly getting over that though.

Nah descriptions are the bread and butter of a writers skills! I'm all for it honestly! Sometimes though my imagination gets lazy and I just like tot have an image lmao

I honestly can't remember what it came from if anything, but it's just nostalgic for me at this point!

Haha fair enough! A spin can be a literal bar trick but in this sense it was referring to Alex putting her own ideas into this drink to make it more her own! Though now I am imagining her juggling the drinks and doing spin moves lmao
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"A spicy noodle mukkbang challenge." You're awesome. 🤣 I had to look that up to see if it was an actual thing. Now I want noodles. And considering the context of this, I'm not sure if I should be worried that that's what I got out of this!

No shame in that! I have to agree, cars (and their drivers) can be quite terrifying, all things considered. And I swear, I have no clue how people are getting their drivers licenses these days. People are getting worse and worse.

True that! Ha! Yeah, I can understand that. Besides, pictures are just outright fun things to have.

... ... *Thunks forehead down on desk.* Someone grab me my crown; I'm the Queen of Overthinking.
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I really hope you found Nikkocado in this search! The man is just... a beautiful disturbing mess. But nah, you shouldn't be worried at all because in the end when I play vampires all I want to wat is Bleu steak lmao!

Yeah in NY state I swear there's no rules. It's just madmax fury road throughout the whole state!

Exactly! You get me! x3

Haha no it's all good I can completely understand where the question came from as I also have a tendency to overthink things haha!
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But there was a scene I thought of that I wanted to run by you! I thought it'd be fun if we made them neighbors, perhaps him overhearing her outside when she gets back from the bar with Ruby. It's only for a moment but it wakes him from a nightmare, and after that maybe he's trying desperately to find her voice again. Maybe they miss each other at the mall in the crowd, maybe a they narrowly miss each other at the circus, before he ends up seeing her at the bar singing. What do you think though?
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Ooh, if you're thinking along those lines, I'm guessing that karaoke night won't be when Rose strikes, and Alex finds out that monsters of nightmare are real? Anyway. That sounds adorable! But, I did establish that Vander's renting a place in a "rich" neighborhood by a lake. Would that put a kink in that? For the circus, I feel like that could have a better use if we held off even just a day or two in-story on them going to that. Part of why I had Ruby point out what she did bout Tom.

And I want to ask; how would you like to play out the mall? Normally, I feel like I'd end up doing a partial time-skip for something like that, since we've got some form of relationship between our girls established in a more fleshed-out scene (it's the type of thing I'd expect to flash by in more of a montage if it was a show/movie), but if you have something in particular you want to do with that, I'll follow your lead! The only thing maybe notable that might happen for Ruby is a call asking her about the fire in the dumpster at some point. Which, I mean, I could also use that as an excuse if you need/want our girls separated at any point. I could see Vander realizing he needs more shirts (blasted bloodhaze. If only wandering around shirtless wouldn't be so conspicuous for him), so would end up at the mall sometime in the late afternoon (you mention nightmares, so he's gotta sleep sometime!).

Gosh, with the driving, it's the same everywhere I've ever been. People are getting more stupid and worse at driving everywhere.

I reread the sentence, and you did phrase it in a way that connects it like it's something specific to bartending. So I at least see where I got the thought from. I don't feel like as much of a doof now, at least! xD Though, emphasis on "as much." xD
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No I decided I want to keep Rose around a bit longer! She'll play more of a shaow roll for now but I have plans though... great, evil plans! All I'll say is Rose has waited for Alex to be well within her grasp for 22 years and 3 months. Now that she is, well, she'll want to have some 'fun' before she goes in for the kill.

Not really since Rose has always paid Alex VERY well and Alex is a super saver. So she'd be able to afford an upscale place near the bar without a doubt. Plus... it may or may not be discounted as it secretly belongs to a red head whose name rhyms with pose! I definitely like holding off on the circus though as it could lead to a scene of Alex and Vander on the ferris wheel! *screeches in happy fangirl*

We could time skip through that and go to a scene of Ruby doing Alex's makeup before karaoke. Or perhaps even Ruby coloring Alex's hair after they get back from the mall! But I was thinking of a scene where Alex just gets super vulnerable and opens up about what she found out about her bio parents, how it's affecting her, and that she didn't want to hide it any longer. That she just wanted her bestie to know more than anything else and that she's scared that her 'light' is going out.

Alternatively before that scene later at Alex's place we could have Alex and Vander meet at a store, Ruby across the store taking the phone call about the fire while Alex is changing clothes. In that moment she walks out asking Ruby what she thinks and it's just Vander there, wide eyed after hearing her voice. To which Alex just slowly closes the door and has a silent panic attack as a good-looking man just witnesses her in the "revenge outfit" all whilst Vander is wondering why this girls voice is so captivating.

Thoughts?

It really is! We just need everyone to get electric self driving cars so no one is driving and everyone is safe behind the wheel!

Haha I definitely see where it could be interpreted that way! So no need to feel like a goof in this situation! ^_^
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Hmm. Those do sound like cute little scenes, but to be clear, if this drags on with supernatural slice-of-life/Hallmark movie with vampire boy courting oblivious, insecure girl for too long, I will get bored. I like romance, but if that romance doesn’t form in between the story’s action, it ends up boring me. Though, I do have something to add into the fair scenes that might help with that for me.

I’m in on the mall and makeup scene (we’ll see how the whole thing actually pans out, though)! But, really, I don’t much care for Vander and Alex being neighbors. That’s ultimately too cliché for me.

So, you’ve said that the only way to kill this version of vampire is to kill their maker, so I’m wondering: would beheading them leave them incapacitated for a while, or are we going into MIB territory there?

Or maybe more this?

Asking to know what, say, a group of human hunters would have passed down through generations, since they can't be killed. 😉 I figure someone would've had to figure it out at some point. I feel like it would make sense for them to be temporarily incapacitated. Like, their head would decay immediately or something, but regrow after a short time.

Once Vander discovers that there’s a prominent vampire already in town, how much would he be capable of finding out about Rose by asking around? He does have contacts to help with that sort of thing, he just prefers to avoid using them to help keep from leading Brahm to them. And less civil methods to get information if it becomes necessary, of course.

Since I realized that Alex would know most of Ruby’s past, and even probably the truth behind what happened to her arm (supernatural elements excluded), I wanted to let you know that I updated Ruby’s profile with her bio, adjusted her personality and occupation section a smidge, and added a mental weakness one! And Parker has a photo for reference now!
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Because it dawned on me that I didn't get this to you, I thought I'd share the couple ideas I had for Ruby's supernatural savior!

I currently have two possible ideas for the entity. Maybe three, depending on what fits. Two story-based. The third is a backup for in case we can't make the first two fit into the rest of what you'd intended! And the story-based ones are, of course, open being changed if you have other ideas.

1) This one depends on if Alex's resemblance to Brahm's wife was intended to be a play on actual reincarnation or just a strong blood-relation resemblance. If the latter, then... The realm of the dead is an odd place, where time has no meaning, so sometimes, visions of the potential future can sometimes collide with the present. Brahm's wife died violently, so perhaps her spirit wasn't at rest. She sensed that there was a way to end the suffering of her husband and even her (misguided *cough cough*) murderer, but if Ruby had died that day, then it wouldn't have come to fruition. Right now, it's not in my head as a "chosen one" type deal, mind, just happenstance, especially if she ends up getting involved with both hunters and the supernaturals, which could help lead Alex and the boys to some sort of good place... At least, a place where Brahm wouldn't be compelled to torture Alex to torture Vander... as much, at the very least. Like, maybe forcing a frienenemy truce or something, that ends up continuing beyond necessity because of events yet unestablished, as a thought.

2) Similar concept, but it does delve more into an almost "chosen one" vibe. The entity was some sort of Fate or some such (whatever would fit in overall), not the restless ghost of Brahm's wife, though in that case it would make more sense to come up with something that deepens that reason, since it’s an overarching Fate rather than a direct MC link wanting to help Brahm and Vander get over their hatred, and save Alex from eternal torment at Brahm's hand.

3) More of a back-up for if the above don't work, and it's rather simple: the entity really was just a helpful ghost that took pity on a hurt teenager--maybe someone who died because of a similar trap now long since gone. The main purpose of the ghost here would simply be to serve as a driving force for Ruby's quiet obsession, and help make her quicker to accept the whole "Supernatural things are real!" bit.

Let me know what you think, if any of that sounds even remotely good to you!
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Hehehehehe... *Sneaks in and placed down milk and Oreos*

Creepy weird reentrance aside, I see we were discussing how we could continue the role play. Alex's appearance is indeed reincarnation, but I have an idea for the continuation of our baby.

We turn this into a supernatural hunter society type RP with elements of romance. Help the good supernatural creatures, kill the bad ones, perhaps even send spirits to the greater beyond with the help of the voice of salvation.

Thoughts?
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Also I definitely like the idea of ruby getting saved by a ghost because it goes with the idea of a supernatural hunter society, run by the supernatural or those influenced by it.
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COOKIES! ~Attacks the Oreos and milk.~

~Mumbled through a moutnfull of dunked cookies~ Creepy? ~Looks at the half-eaten cookie I have in hand.~ Wait. Should... Should I have asked more questions about these?

Ah, gotchya. So your thought on the romance aspect to it was going to be a sort of love triangle for her? I mean, I should have figured that out, but I don't read enough romance, I suppose. xD I was kind of going to ask if, in order to avoid you potentially having a romance going between your own characters, if maybe Ruby's personality would remind Brahm of his wife while Alex had inhareted her looks, which could also then create extra odd tension considering the dynamics between everyone--Ruby doesn't mean anything to Vander, but she'd potentially be capable of meaning something to Brahm, while Alex would mean everything to Vander. It was just a thought! Figured I'd throw it out there anyway, even if you didn't have interest.

HA! Okay. I was for real planning on having Parker be a part of a hunter group that heard about some high-powered players being in town, and his group was going to use a date to the fair as a sort of cover-up op to get a feel for a vast amount of people in that town, and see if they could pinpoint any of supernatural beings there.
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...maybe...

*Grins deliciously*

As for the original plan, whatever it was, I definitely wish to alter it and avoid it being a love triangle plot! I'm all for continuing with the Ruby, Alex and Vander, but I did wish to ask... How would you feel if Brahm became... Noel?
(Name is not set in stone lol)

It would alter things a bit, but I feel like as it stands things aren't where either of us truly like them. If you're okay with me altering Brahm into Nicky (no that doesn't sound right either), this is my revised plot proposal.

Ruby and Alex have had some supernatural encounters through the years though actually getting concrete proof has been futile. So as a hobby they started the Washington Ghouls Group, though it's always just the two of them. So there's some background with it, but nothing that screams "Holy shit we're ghost hunting!" They still have their same jobs, same lives, everything is perfectly normal besides some spooks they encounter (and well, the fact Ruby was saved by a ghost lol)

Vander eventually encounters them and joins the group, perhaps concealing his vampire nature and his past. Once he joins, supernatural stuff comes at them from all sides. Ghosts, demons, mermaids, vampire, hell even Annabelle 2.0 maybe lol
They start getting further and further engrained into supernatural society, helping to preserve normal life for all those they love and care about.

After some time, encounters with various supes, maybe even a face off or two with Parker and his gang who just straight up want to kill all supes. That's then we introduce Natasha (maybe I don't knowwwwww) who also conceals her identity and tries to get close to Alex. Perhaps that doesn't work, and when Nicolette (honestly don't hate that one) is down in the dumps, Ruby decides to go for it. I do like the idea of her having the personality of Nicole's (eh) first wife's personality, and the two falling for each other. Perhaps after an especially rough battle against a werewolf that's when they realize they can't go on just being flirtatious. They need something more... Real.

Of course, Nicolette (yeah I think that's the one) will still be giving Vander shit cause... Well, Brahm was originally supposed to be cocky. Nicolette will probably be the same, just more calculating.

I don't know, what do you think though?
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One major thing there that I'm going to touch on before addressing the rest (I like the Scooby-Doo meets Supernatural vibes you have going there, though): Did you swap Brahm (or whoever) from being a he to being a she? If you're hoping for FxF romance with this, then I'll have to back out from that. I only do same-gender friendships, not romances. I don't say it to be offensive if you swing that way, but I don't write that kind of content.

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Ah yes I forgot. Apologies. Then we can keep Brahm
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