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Hidden 11 yrs ago Post by GreivousKhan
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I have tired for years to understand Skallagrim.

I decided that he is possibly deranged.
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Hmmm oh you mean the lion god who created a universe 150 times the size of a normal universe at his birth by the black hole compression powers of a trillion trillion lions all merging into one? That god? A 2,400 ton mech can be beaten and Greens has huge weaknesses, really glaring weakness that can be exploited, in a non meta-gaming way, to expose the soft pulpy pilot inside.
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Or you know...hack the damn thing.

Like Clockmans haxx.
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Dude I can see the weakness in every character, just because I see it doesn't mean it's non-metagamingly exploitable.

Sometimes in character logic only goes so far, I'm not talkin' about yer mech Green, your mech has a hilariously blatant weakness.

But I'm getting at stuff like: Golden Age Green Lantern's weakness was wood.

Wood!

How would you be able to learn this information in combat? Nobody in the arena has wooden weapons. Would they just conveniently be disarmed and find a stick to beat the shit out of him with?

Sometimes weaknesses can be ridiculously dangerous, other times super obvious. But just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's exploitable. Example: Superman.

Kryptonite, a material that's dangerously radioactive to humans. It's also incredibly rare.

And then you've got normal human characters who are low tier, who are all weak to bullets. But we all know what happens when you shoot bullets in an RP.

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Yup.

I could destroy that mech ridiculously easily with either the Clockwork Man or Fury. Though both would be reliant on it not just scourging the landscape with explosives from ten miles away.

Well, Fury would probably still survive.
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LeeRoy said
Dude I can see the weakness in every character, just because I see it doesn't mean it's non-metagamingly exploitable. Sometimes in character logic only goes so far, I'm not talkin' about yer mech Green, your mech has a hilariously blatant weakness. But I'm getting at stuff like: Golden Age Green Lantern's weakness was wood. Wood!How would you be able to learn this information in combat? Nobody in the arena has wooden weapons. Would they just conveniently be disarmed and find a stick to beat the shit out of him with? Sometimes weaknesses can be ridiculously dangerous, other times super obvious. But just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's exploitable. Example: Superman. Kryptonite, a material that's dangerously radioactive to humans. It's also incredibly rare. And then you've got normal human characters who are low tier, who are all weak to bullets. But we all know what happens when you shoot bullets in an RP.


I don't know, the Clockwork Man seems to have some pretty decent luck with his bullets.

It's all about preparation, no one wants to take a hit if all you do is say 'BOB RAISES HIS PISTOL AND PULLS THE TRIGGER YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!'
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Not many ppl have skalla's years of experience. Except maybe Rilla.


Isn't measuring roleplaying experience difficult? It's nothing more than collaborative writing at best, and not really a skill on its own.
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Having weaknesses no one could possibly know about is annoying though, I grant.

Fucking Khan's skeleton, it has a giant glowing thing in its chest and he called ballshit on my character aiming it once, the nerve. Sigurd had obviously played at least one of any video-game ever made.
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Dude I can see the weakness in every character, just because I see it doesn't mean it's non-metagamingly exploitable. Sometimes in character logic only goes so far, I'm not talkin' about yer mech Green, your mech has a hilariously blatant weakness. But I'm getting at stuff like: Golden Age Green Lantern's weakness was wood. Wood!How would you be able to learn this information in combat? Nobody in the arena has wooden weapons. Would they just conveniently be disarmed and find a stick to beat the shit out of him with? Sometimes weaknesses can be ridiculously dangerous, other times super obvious. But just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's exploitable. Example: Superman. Kryptonite, a material that's dangerously radioactive to humans. It's also incredibly rare. And then you've got normal human characters who are low tier, who are all weak to bullets. But we all know what happens when you shoot bullets in an RP.


Really. I cannot tell you what to do or how to ease your worried mind. If it so troubles you have to fight along T1 rules and exploit weaknesses that you glean through the actions of your opponent and their stances, descriptions and how they present their attacks then I cannot help you.
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Having weaknesses no one could possibly know about is annoying though, I grant.Fucking Khan's skeleton, it has a giant glowing thing in its chest and he called ballshit on my character aiming it once, the nerve. Sigurd had obviously played at least one of any video-game ever made.


Not my fault you forgot he was wearing cloths.

But that was a fun three way that never actually happened.
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Really. I cannot tell you what to do or how to ease your worried mind. If it so troubles you have to fight along T1 rules and exploit weaknesses that you glean through the actions of your opponent and their stances, descriptions and how they present their attacks then I cannot help you.


I think when someone post just before you do it f's up the system. You made me double post. :K
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Isn't measuring roleplaying experience difficult? It's nothing more than collaborative writing at best, and not really a skill on its own.


True but having fought bullshit fighters who pulled crap out of their ass tends to make one read the entire fight very carefully so that you understand what is happening and if it goes to a judge you can point to actions leading up to support your action or completely blow up the bullshit attack from your opponent.
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Dude I can see the weakness in every character, just because I see it doesn't mean it's non-metagamingly exploitable. Sometimes in character logic only goes so far, I'm not talkin' about yer mech Green, your mech has a hilariously blatant weakness. But I'm getting at stuff like: Golden Age Green Lantern's weakness was wood. Wood!How would you be able to learn this information in combat? Nobody in the arena has wooden weapons. Would they just conveniently be disarmed and find a stick to beat the shit out of him with? Sometimes weaknesses can be ridiculously dangerous, other times super obvious. But just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's exploitable. Example: Superman. Kryptonite, a material that's dangerously radioactive to humans. It's also incredibly rare. And then you've got normal human characters who are low tier, who are all weak to bullets. But we all know what happens when you shoot bullets in an RP.


I could see bullets missing often if the target is on the move, and even more so if strong environmental factors are thrown into the mix, such as high winds, thick fog or smoke or rain obscuring the shooter's vision. If the shooter is on the move, hitting a moving target is even harder.

The excessive Matrix-style dodging is literally maximum cheese, however. One of the few times I used a gun-heavy character was against one of Crapton's characters, though his character was more of a mobile slab of wrought iron than a purely organic creature, so I guess that character's capacity to absorb hundreds of .50 BMG rounds (as well as didge them since she was moving fairly often during the fight) was justified.
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MelonHead said
Having weaknesses no one could possibly know about is annoying though, I grant.


Thus why Allaria made people have weaknesses that they couldn't readily control on their own. Fuck all that super rare flower from the unexplorable place crap.

The thing about bullets is, as ASTA said, hitting a moving target. Chances are, in a fight, they aren't standing still. It mostly comes down to someone playing fair and whatnot. But that's hard to come by since many decide to use exceedingly quick characters, or play just on the edge of 'okay, that's legal' and 'what the fuck that makes no sense'.

Also, I'm not creating a faction - at least not for here. I just, genuinely, like creating characters.
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The god consuming the planet thing isn't a genuine concern, bro. I know it wouldn't actually happen.

I'm not worried about anything though, dude, I can and do read into everything that a post says. I know how to write it so it's logical but still allows the character to exploit the weaknesses of other characters. But I don't because it makes it more entertaining, more logical, and I don't break character.

If I wanted to use every exploitable thing available I would, but that ruins the appeal for me.

LeeRoy would have a long range hacking system, or alternatively, a suit of armor that would make Tony Stark eat shit.

Sukoh would be faster.

Erde would be a straight up titan, rather than a bound titan.
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Skallagrim said
True but having fought bullshit fighters who pulled crap out of their ass tends to make one read the entire fight very carefully so that you understand what is happening and if it goes to a judge you can point to actions leading up to support your action or completely blow up the bullshit attack from your opponent.


I am suddenly reminded of what's his face. The first guy I fought in the HoR, where I was using Derik, the chain man, and he started complaining.
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Agreed on the bullet topic. I've found that when using things that involve distance and any more time than say, 10 seconds, if there is a way for someone to dodge something, even if normal reaction times and physical abilities wouldn't be able to dodge it, who cares! Dodge anyway, because no one wants to take a bullet. That's just my experience, anyway
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I am suddenly reminded of what's his face. The first guy I fought in the HoR, where I was using Derik, the chain man, and he started complaining.


Chains are op. Yep yep yep!
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I love people fighting with chains. Im not sure why, but it's always really appealed to me.
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I love people fighting with chains. Im not sure why, but it's always really appealed to me.


Sadist?

I don't recall any such chain character. Must be before I joined.
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