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GreivousKhan said
Awesome video.


Yep, that was the one.

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Loose. Adjective. "not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached."Lose. Verb. "be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something)"Fucking English, people. Learn it.


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A full suit is no heavier then modern day war gear. Remember, the weight is well distributed.

Last I hear they're what, 40 kg?

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Wikipedia: "It is a common misconception that the plate armour of European soldiers adversely affected mobility in a significant manner, but in fact plate armour was less heavy and featured more even weight distribution than a full complement of a modern firefighter's gear" Also, they usually only weighed 30-40 lbs. And that's all over your body. That's not heavy at all.Fun Fact: Paper armor is a thing.


But you're still 20 kg heavier than what you're usually move around with.
Besides, 20kg is sort of heavy (for me)
Also, I sort of think that agility =/=mobility.
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You Englishmen and your love of killing Frenchmen in plate. ;)


Agincourt was a good day.
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I did have an idea for dragon scale armor, but would that be like a human wearing armor made out of human? O_o
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Continued pester turns you into a grammar nazi.


Hey. We grammar nazis serve a purpose. We make sure words are used and spelled reich.

Ha. Get it?

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ASTA gets it.
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I did have an idea for dragon scale armor, but would that be like a human wearing armor made out of human? O_o


Depends if Evvie moults or something.

It would be more like a human wearing armour made of dead skin, or hair.
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I did have an idea for dragon scale armor, but would that be like a human wearing armor made out of human? O_o


I guess, since if it's High-tier human skin armor, it can automatically resist nuclear detonations.

That would be very strange.

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Hah, maces! Fibre armor and non-newtonian fluids come to save the day! :D


Bullets crush flesh and bone rather than cut it, so you're right on that end.

If someone comes at you with a combat knife, your gear won't save you. Though, I'm unsure if the smart molecules will be able to harden fast enough before the knife pierces, since I think their hardening speed and strength depends on the speed of the object that hits them.

Unsure.

Unless of course they stab you in a space where an armor plate is situated at. Then yeah, you should be fine.
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Depends if Evvie moults or something.It would be more like a human wearing armour made of dead skin, or hair.


She only molts if she uses her scale generation, and said scales quickly break apart.

P.s. My foot and knee hurt from testing out Evvie's spin move. Granted I'm not in nearly as good of shape as her. She won't be able to spin all the way behind her in time anyways and will take the attack as is. (Avoids conflict. :) )
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I did have an idea for dragon scale armor, but would that be like a human wearing armor made out of human? O_o


Are there not like tons of fantasy armors/materials for her to use?
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Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethelene should be both a good defense against cutting weapons, and very lightweight at the same time, shouldn't it? If so, it's quite a nice alternative against blades for heavy ceramic plates.
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Are there not like tons of fantasy armors/materials for her to use?


She's broke so it's likely that she has no money to buy them or idea how to get them.

PS: Tell me if I'm wrong, but, didn't the knights also wear another set of mail under their platemail?
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Are there not like tons of fantasy armors/materials for her to use?


Yes, and back to the old problem of her finding someone else to have armor made specifically for her height/wings/tail and do it for free respite how costly this would be.

I'm back on the computer so time to work on my last post. And to commemorate the end of the argument, here's a dancing velocirapter!

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She's broke so it's likely that she has no money to buy them or idea how to get them.PS: Tell me if I'm wrong, but, didn't the knights also wear another set of mail under their platemail?


'The knights'

Uh, little more specific here? I think Templars wore some sort of complementary under armour.

Plus, almost every soldier who wore chain mail also wore padding underneath, which saved -a lot- of people from arrows.
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She's broke so it's likely that she has no money to buy them or idea how to get them.PS: Tell me if I'm wrong, but, didn't the knights also wear another set of mail under their platemail?


Chain-mail to protect the joints usually.
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Heavy-molecular-mass polyethelene should be both a good defense against cutting weapons, and very lightweight at the same time, shouldn't it? If so, it's quite a nice alternative against blades for heavy ceramic plates.


I can attest to this. I used to do medieval-style combat with people from an SCA Heavy Fighting Unit. The armor we wore was patterned on Roman Lorica Segmentata, and made from High-Density Polyetheline with light padding beneath. In addition to being light AND a flotation device (yes, you could swim in it), that shit stopped both impacts and the rare sharp weapon ( in the case of a weapon breaking, as all weapons were blunted and wooden... but a break still happened now and then and made a pointy thing. ) very effectively. Making a similar material out of an even heavier element would produce substantially more durable and protective armor.
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I can attest to this. I used to do medieval-style combat with people from an SCA Heavy Fighting Unit. The armor we wore was patterned on Roman Lorica Segmentata, and made from High-Density Polyetheline with light padding beneath. And that shit stopped both impacts and the rare sharp weapon ( in the case of a weapon breaking, as all weapons were blunted and wooden... but a break still happened now and then and made a pointy thing. ) very effectively. Making a similar material out of an even heavier element would produce substantially more durable and protective armor.


Until you see me hit something with a mace this study is inconclusive.

Plus, it doesn't really matter how good your armour is at absorbing impacts, because physics dictates I can still hit you hard enough that you fall over, at which point your face is mine.

And main characters don't wear face armour, unless they're Khans.
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'The knights'Uh, little more specific here? I think Templars wore some sort of complementary under armour.Plus, almost every soldier who wore chain mail also wore padding underneath, which saved -a lot- of people from arrows.

All of them that wears plate armor?

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Chain-mail to protect the joints usually.


How heavy are they again?
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How heavy are they again?


Chain Mail, contrary to popular belief, is often heavier than plate armor. In addition, the articulation of the plates offers superior mobility as opposed to the chain (which bunches up at places like knees and elbows when moving). Granted, a plate-and-chain ensemble is one of the more protective forms of armor... but it greatly restricts movement as opposed to a simple breastplate with simple gauntlets and boots.

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Until you see me hit something with a mace this study is inconclusive


ACTUALLY... Maces are approved weapons in the SCA. Many people use them for just that reason, that they are heavy and you can't just shrug off a mace-hit. That said, even swung full force, the HDPE armor we wore did reduce the impact quite a bit.
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Until you see me hit something with a mace this study is inconclusive. Plus, it doesn't really matter how good your armour is at absorbing impacts, because physics dictates I can still hit you hard enough that you fall over, at which point your face is mine. And main characters don't wear face armour, unless they're Khans.


As a side note Genghis Khan used to lead from the front of his army until he was hit by an arrow, then he lead from the rear center from then on. True story.

Screw that leading from the from the front and taking your helm off kind of BS.
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And main characters don't wear face armour, unless they're Khans.


You just wait 'till i finish my characters! They're all going to have magic based non-explosive reactive armor on their FUCKING FACES. Nothing too OP, but it can stop a lesser bullet outright and greatly soften the impact of the higher calibers. Not to mention that it increases the chance on the projectile/weapon glancing off outright.
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