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Old English was the language spoken by the Anglo-Saxons who invaded and settled in Britain in the early Dark Ages, driving the Celts out of modern-day England. They were actually from modern-day Denmark and Northern Germany. So naturally their language was quite similar to that spoken by Norsemen; it's actually more closely related to modern Icelandic than it is to modern English if I recall correctly.

And I'd have to disagree about what you say about animals communicating better. For one they can't get across as complicated a thought as humans because they don't have actual language. And while all members of a species know what certain calls mean, how widespread are most species? Nowhere nearly as widespread as human beings are across the planet. Take a bird from the West Coast of America and a related species from Europe and I can guarantee you that they won't understand each other.
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What about rats?
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True, but remember how animals never get taught their native calls - a dog that has never been with another dog still growls, barks and yaps the same as any other and it means the same things.

Except the Basenji. They can't bark.
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True, but there are just certain signs that are pretty much the same across the animal kingdom. Something growls at you, that's a bad sign. It even extend to humans, granted we don't do it much because we have our people-words but if you barge into someone's room and they growl at you you're gonna leave.
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But animals don't need tuition in their languages. They just know them.
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Nonono, animals don't have language. Period. They communicate, but it's not language and it isn't possible to communicate complex thoughts. They have an instinctual knowledge of how to communicate, but if you think about it humans do too. What do babies do? They cry. Who taught them to cry? Nobody. The thing is, humans don't need the simplistic and instinctual communications that other animals have because we have language. And language is so much better, because it can get across a vast amount of complex thoughts.
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TheSovereignGrave said
Take a bird from the West Coast of America and a related species from Europe and I can guarantee you that they won't understand each other.


This same exact thing applies to humans, honestly. You can't take someone who doesn't know a lick of English and fling them into the state of Texas and really expect them to fair well without extensive assistance from a third-party. You could say that utilizing computer programs to help communicate is one method of getting things done, but I doubt modern electronic translation software (which is rather pathetic, mind you) has information on the 2,000 or so languages used by the human race.

Also, pretty sure dolphins have been said to have their own language. Body language could also count.
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"Period"?
That defines the problem with language. We speak the same language, but you use differant words from me. I say full stop, you say period. And neither term is better or "wrong" but if I didn't know American terms, I would be very confused right now.
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But the things is, you do know American terms. And that's one of the things about language, you can be taught it. A bird isn't going to learn how to speak like another bird (discounting birds that purposely mimic other birds' calls), because the calls are instinctive. But as a human you can learn to speak another language and communicate with others.
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It can't speak the new bird's "language" but they can be taught to understand each other.
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Just realised the stupidity of arguing about the downsides of human language...on a text-based forum



Oh, just thought of another problem in human language.
The amount of times I've been called a "faggot" or "freak" because of my avatar -I use the same one for all forums I go on - and username. I usually shrug it off - I'm used to it by now, but regardless, it's annoying that some people have associated the use of equine-like fantasy creatures, a male (suprise!) and homosexuality together, and somehow interperet that as negative.
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Okay, that last part isn't language. That's just human beings being idiots.
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That's because the MLP fandom itself is beyond terrible.
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But it's language that gave them the ability to cobvey their idiocy. I've never heard a rabbit call another rabbit a faggot because he dug a strange way, or a dog taunt another, otherwise identical dog for having a differant fur colour.
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That just goes hand-in-hand with language giving people the ability to convey complex thoughts. You can't exactly blame language for the failings of people.
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I guess I blame complexity as a whole. I prefer simple things. If we could communicate the same thoughts and feelings through clicks or growls alone, I would do so gladly.

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That's because the MLP fandom itself is beyond terrible.


True. That's hard to argue against.
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If we could communicate complex thoughts through clicks and growls, then idiots would still associate the series of clicks and growls that mean 'ponies', 'men', and 'faggot' together.
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True, true.

Anyway, enough about me and my personal tastes and pet hates. What's the plan for everyones nation?
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What does everyone think their nation would think of Seculcia, incidentally?
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Finally posted.
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