Surely there is no blame on Trojans and strong-greaved Achaians if for long time they suffer hardship for a woman like this one. Terrible is the likeness of her face to immortal goddesses. Iliad 3.156f trans. Lattimore.

TL;DR Summary:


In Character Info:





Maps:
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Greeks = Green, Trojans and Allies = Gold, cross = dies (error by Nestor. Nestor does not die).

Nation Sheets:


Guidelines:

Cities:
Completed

Incomplete

My head hurts after reading th NS rules. I might be a while

HazmatMedic said
My head hurts after reading th NS rules. I might be a while

What parts were confusing or were causing your head to hurt? Just asking so that I might improve it.

I should have my city-state up by Sunday evening.

MissingAxis said
I should have my city-state up by Sunday evening.

Great to hear. Any interesting ideas?

HazmatMedic said
My head hurts after reading th NS rules. I might be a while

The stat system.

HazmatMedic said
The stat system.

Do you need me to explain anything better? Also, just remember that these stats are primarily used for the optional randomness. I would just prefer to have them up for everyone because it allows me to easily resolve any arguments (if such even arises, although technically this will probably be more of a cooperative nation rp because it's Greeks vs Trojans) and it can provide relative strengths and weaknesses just for guidance. For instance, you might take the stats into account when showing how one character is stronger or more skilled than another character.

Dedonus said
Do you need me to explain anything better? Also, just remember that these stats are primarily used for the optional randomness. I would just prefer to have them up for everyone because it allows me to easily resolve any arguments (if such even arises, although technically this will probably be more of a cooperative nation rp because it's Greeks vs Trojans) and it can provide relative strengths and weaknesses just for guidance. For instance, you might take the stats into account when showing how one character is stronger or more skilled than another character.

I don't really get how they're assigned and if the classes are set in stone.

I had the idea of having one really agile, fast guy who preferred to dodge than defend, a super-heavy fellow who met attacks with a half-inch of steel and a third, more seductive character who'd avoid head on contact if possible.

Classes are set in stone if you mean switching classes. However, I would consider allowing leeway for personal customization of characters for skills that are not covered by the stats. For your second character, I see either the Barbarian (and note this class should be seen as a Herakles/Ajax-like character) or Spearman. For the third, I was looking over the manual for Mazes and Minotaurs and there is a thief class. The only reason I did not include it because it had other special rules and I did not want to add more complicated material that would in the end be optional. I would really have to think about the first one.

For assigning stats. Let's see if I can explain this better. After I give you your rolls (I will give you five sets of 6 numbers so that you have options to choose from), you take the two highest numbers and assign them to the two attributes that are listed under the "primary attributes" section in the class section. The remaining four numbers, you get to choose where they go. Each value that can be assigned as has a modifier (the 'Y' value in the character sheet). Below the example in the attribute section is a range of numbers. To the right of each range is the corresponding modifier value. This modifier value is used to calculate the rest of the stats.

To be honest, I kind of regret showing the "Saving Rolls" (Athletic Prowess, Danger Evasion, etc.) because without a clear explanation, they can seem quite confusing. Basically, they are used during situations where you are avoiding danger, performing an athletic maneuver (climbing), exerting physical strength, etc. There is a roll to determine whether you succeed and these values are added to the die roll.

Please ask anymore questions if anything is still unclear.

@MissingAxis: Is the "formal secondary education" supposed to be something like Plat's Academy? Remember that generally there is low literacy in the ancient world (although the aristocracy would have higher literacy, so what you have probably would not be a problem).

Otherwise, the Nation Sheet looks good so far.

Yes, the "formal secondary education" is restricted to wealthy families who can pay for their children's education.

I'm sorry it's not finished. I haven't been focused on it, as I noticed everyone else was missing or similarly slow. I'm still very interested in this roleplay, and I hope it takes off.

MissingAxis said
I'm sorry it's not finished. I haven't been focused on it, as I noticed everyone else was missing or similarly slow. I'm still very interested in this roleplay, and I hope it takes off.

No problem. I mean, my Nation Sheet is not totally complete (close, but not 100% complete).

Are you allowed to be on the side of the Trojans or neutral?

Titanic said
Are you allowed to be on the side of the Trojans?

I would not be against it. But just be aware that Troy is destined to fall (although that does not mean your city would fall).

Titanic said
Nation Sheet

Looks good so far.

HazmatMedic said
Nation Sheet

Looks good so far.

Also, I added a section that states all city-states that have nation sheets and what needs to be completed for them to be accepted.

Are you going to leave the stats system as it is or simplified it?
Edit: Does a hammer or an axe count as barbarian weapons?

Titanic said
Are you going to leave the stats system as it is or simplified it?

What type of simplifications do you have in mind? I can say you don't have to put the "save rolls" because I could calculate those on a case to case basis. Also remember that using the stats are not required. They are just there if you would like to use them or as a means to resolve disputes.\

Edit: Also, when I say not required, I mean you must have them on your three major characters, but you can ignore them for the sake of "storytelling".

Titanic said
Does a hammer or an axe count as barbarian weapons?

Yes, they do count as a "barbarian" weapon. But remember that they don't have to be literal barbarians. Think of Ajax or Herakles as models (although Herakles' might be a little to powerful for player characters).

nvm on the stats system, I think I get it now
Edit: Can you do the stats for me while I work on the descs of them.

Titanic said
nvm on the stats system, I think I get it nowEdit: Can you do the stats for me while I work on the descs of them.

Do you mean you want me to give you the rolls?

Edit:
Here are your five rolls. Pick three to use.
1: 15 14 12 11 13 10
2: 10 17 12 12 17 10
3: 10 16 14 14 14 14
4: 14 8 16 17 17 13
5: 14 11 14 13 12 14