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It's been 2 years since the ending conflict that was the assault by Char's Neo-Zeon forces. Hundreds of thousands have died in the wars since the death of Deikun and the Earth Federation is holding onto what remains of their authority after so nearly being destroyed by the Axis drop only narrowly being saved by Amuro Ray's sacrifice. Many pilots have offered their service to Earth in the years following the sudden and devastating actions delivered by the spacenoids due to Earth's apparent decadence. However Londo Bell, a group led and commanded by the legendary war hero Bright Noa of the One Year War, has been busy hunting down and dismantling whatever forces are left by the Zeonic Forces namely what is left of Char's Neo Zeon. Deciding to form a group under one of his senior officers Bright intends to use this group as a mobile suit commando unit of sorts aiming to swiftly dismantle and destroy the remnants of Zeon wherever they may be at. Though still at a loss due to the deaths of many ace pilots many members of Londo Bell remain hopeful and stalwart in hopes that Earth will no longer be threatened by those who seeks to destroy it and it's inhabitants.

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Hello everyone this is my first attempt at making a Universal Century based roleplay and I will be the first to state I am not the most knowledgeable gundam fan when it comes to U.C. However I've been mulling over this idea and figured a group of Londo Bell pilots with varying degrees of skills all fighting Zeon/Sleeves forces one year before the events of Unicorn would be interesting. Depending on feedback I am more than willing to set this back a year or a few months after the events of Char's Counterattack. I would like to have a Co-GM in helping plan and handle events and technology related things in the roleplay as while I have an extensive knowledge on the main stay suits I have no watched Zeta or ZZ so I only know of their base plotlines and thus no real knowledge outside of CCA, MSG, and the OVA's. I have no finite plans for this roleplay and will be making things up as we go along.

For fairness sake I will be denying access to actual Gundam suits themselves. I'd prefer mass produced models and or other machines. I would prefer to stick to canon suits but I may consider fanon suits as well if a very strong case is presented. This roleplay will be strictly told by the federation side of things however through NPC's we may see some of Zeon's side. This is because A. I don't like having to manage two separate factions in thread and B. I have a natural distaste for Zeon myself.

Keep in mind that out-dated suits like the Zaku-ll won't probably be accepted due to them being frankly overwhelmingly outmatched at this point in time. This is not to keep things boring but to keep players from trying to go ham on a Geara Doga in an original Gelgoog and thinking they should have the edge despite one suit being made back when Zeon was starting to lose the one year war.

Anyways New-Types are allowed but they can't be Amuro, Kamile, or Judau levels in power. Keep them milder and old types are more encouraged then not.

Anyway I'd appreciate any feedback on the subject and I'd love some interest.
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You dirty feddie.

In all seriousness, I'm always in for Gundam RPs.
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http://i.imgur.com/NwphZig.jpg

But thanks for the interest I'd like three members to join at the very least before I make an OOC. I'd also like to talk over possible plot devices and what people would like from a roleplay like this.
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Well, frankly, a Gelgoog was actually a better suit than the original RX-78-2 by the end of the OYW. The RX only continued kicking ass because Amuro was Amuro, and the only truly powerful Newtype we saw during the OYW. Char was a bit of one, but he never really had much power. By the time he got his Gelgood (and certainly by the time he got his Zeong) Char had better mobile suits than Amuro did. Amuro was just the better pilot.

I'm not saying OYW suits will be able to take on all of the CCA era's mobile suits, especially not with a halfway decent pilot, but standard Gelgoogs were a decent threat as far along as ZZ. And the Earth Zeon remnants in Unicorn almost completely overran Torrington base using mobile suits that couldn't be any newer than 0083. Long story short, something at least as recent as Zeta or ZZ should be able to hold up in the CCA era just fine. I mean, the Sleeves in Unicorn used a lot of Z and ZZ era suits.

Have you considered who the villains would be? Char's gone by this point, so Full Frontal?
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Yes I am aware of the Gelgoog's capablities as a stand alone suit for it's era. It can still hang with some of the suits of this decade but I don't see anyone pulling a Judau Ashta in his ZZ (ZZ being a trash heap in victory). If there is merit to be had in certain suits appearing I have nothing against that.

At this point in time I am considering two separate Zeon factions appearing. The Sleeves being one headed by Full Frontal as you asked and another one being headed by a yet to be named fanatical Grand Admiral that helped Zeon back all the way towards the One Year War or maybe Haman's former Zeon. He gained support by being a rallying voice for those who didn't want to follow Frontal. I'm planning on him being a strong follower of Deikun but an stalwart believer in old Zeon ala Admiral Delaz.

For my own character I plan on using a character I didn't get to use much of during a another gundam rp based on the one year war. He's not going to be a newtype highlights of his career will be majorly being a strong ace pilot after the war, serving with Titans briefly before defecting to Karaba, and some work as a lieutenant in Londo Bell. His suit has yet to be decided his code name being Grey Ghost.
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I would like to join if you'd have me.
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I'd be happy to have you if you can handle my requirements for making a CS which isn't too much for example, I don't usually accept CS's with about three sentences in personality and biography. Not saying you do that's just what I usually say to people.
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Feddie brethren, have you seen Unicorn?
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Parts of it here and there I haven't watched the whole series though.
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Honestly, setting it after CCA is... Problematic. The Sleeves weren't a major military force, more a terrorist group. They had minimal manufacturing base, and only really began as a group nearly two years after CCA, just in time for the Laplace Conflict. And they basically dissolved to rejoin the Federation following the Laplace Conflict, which really only took place between the Nahel Argama and Frontal's crews. There's just almost nothing between the end of CCA and the start of Unicorn.

So, to be perfectly honest, you'd really need to either dedicate yourself to going mostly AU following CCA or set things during a time where the greater conflict isn't so defined. The Gryps Conflict and First Neo Zeon War were both pretty small scale in terms of what we saw; the Argama (and later Nahel Argama) were only parts of the overall conflict. We, for example, didn't see much of Karaba versus the Titans on Earth or any Federation forces versus Haman's Neo Zeon. That era could work pretty well.

If you do go AU, I'd advise carefully thinking out who you use for a villain. Delaz was never really a follower of Zeon Zum Deikun's philosophy, he was really just a revenge obsessed ass with a grudge to settle. That's why he had basically no plan past "We're gonna colony drop the Feddies again".

I'd also probably advise looking over the general state of mobile suits in the UC; while I can see why you would restrict Gundams for the most part, a lot of them actually have mass produced counterparts. And most of the Gundams, unlike in AU Gundam series, aren't inherently all-powerful mobile suits. The pilots are the OP ones. The Zeta and Double Zeta both had true mass produced counterparts made by Anaheim, and even grandaddy RX-78 had some derivations produced in limited numbers. And almost all of those Gundams (RX-0 not included because the Unicorn really is ungodly OP in a Newtype's hands) were either matched or completely outmatched by mobile suits in their same series. The O was a beast of a mobile suit, for example, that Kamille could only beat due to Newtype hax.

Long story short, you might want to consider carefully what era you set it in, and who you use for your antagonists.
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Yeah, doing Sleeves-era Zeon well needs a good grip on what makes them tick.

Including Axis Zeon and the original Neo Zeon's shenanigans in Zeta and ZZ.
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Very well I can scrap the Sleeves entirely and I can make this into an Alternate Universe story quite easily. I never intended on using Full Frontal's group much if at all preferring to focus on my own antagonist. I forgot to state that I didn't intend to use the admiral as an exact copy of Delaz. I was just using him as a rallying point for the remnants of the more fanatical Zeon Forces that have gone into hiding prompting Bright to form our group of ours to deal with that threat. He's going to be a charismatic, dogmatic, but respectful and beloved by his men. His goal is simply to re-establish Zeon with or without a Zabi or Deikun heir and try to form his own nation. He's going to have a few ace pilots in whom we're going to fight from time to time. Frontal was going to just be the beginnings and he'd appear just to steal up some of the admiral's men after we start to hurt him and fight us on occasion. I don't intend on having too many if any full on war like battles I was thinking more along the lines of small skirmishes and even gun fights on the ground and while boarding enemy ships in space.

As for the era I can possibly mend that as well but that would force me to change up everything entirely which is not something I'm sure I'm willing to do. When I thought this over I wanted a roleplay after Amuro and Char's death. The old guard getting switched out and what have you. And on top of that as I said I have little information of the events of Zeta and ZZ making it harder for me to set things up while keeping things going concurrently with the gyps conflict and the first neo zeon war. the latter of which is the most probable if there must be a condition change but then we'll need to drop Bright as he's with Judau and friends and make up an entirely new set of crew members and a ship for them to be on and then make a group to fight against that is concurrently following along with Glemy and Haman. Char's death and the years following it allows me to set up a new villain from the ashes while still being able to use stuff from CCA and some Unicorn stuff as a set up for this roleplay's current setting.

The suits I'm malleable on but it would depend on the suit and the character using them. Not everyone gets to pilot a gundam after all and my own character is only going to be in a re-colored RE-GZ Custom and he's only in that because considering his parts in previous conflicts he's earned the right to have a stronger suit.

I'd prefer not changing the set up I currently have so far and keeping going along with what I already have, little as it may be, rather than scrapping it and going back to the events of the Zeta series which while it may be more coherent in terms of fitting in with canon isn't something that would work out well if it was run be me. And as aforementioned i don't mind dipping into alternate universe stuff to make it more believable.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to force you to change up everything. I'm just saying that for people who've watched the UC (and people like me, who have watched it waaaaaay too comprehensively) you're going to start running into some issues with the timeline placement. Which is why I'm just trying to point some things out now, before you have to deal with them later.

I don't necessarily mean you'd need to dip into series that are completely different from the UC, but you might want to consider branching off from the canon UC route after CCA. Because like I said, almost nothing happens between CCA and Unicorn, and then after Unicorn nothing really happens with the early UC anymore. All the stuff after that is Late UC, which is a whoooole different can of worms.
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Yes there is nothing that is noted between CCA's and Unicorn which is why I'm going to do something in between those periods. I would think that there would be some Zeonic forces still wanting to fight on after Char's death for a few years later and between 0093 (cca) and 0096 (Unicorn) gives me a little leg room and I never intended on going completely into canon otherwise I'd have set it up sometime later or during the First Zeon War. Overall I appreciate your help in trying to get my to understand the problems with setting up stuff in the U.C universe but I believe I'm probably going to just stick to the current script that I've already mentioned and just implant alternate universe parts when needed.

So with all that being said I believe that assuming Swift and MS are still interested after all that we just discussed I'd like one more person at minimal to confirm interest before I make an OOC. I'd still like help in formulating a plan on how to start things off in the early game before transitioning into the actual bigger conflicts.
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Honestly, it would be easier to do something in the thirty years between Unicorn and F91.

Keep it close enough to Early UC, but not too far to Late UC when the Crossbone Vanguard starts moving.

You don't even need to do Zeon. Just an original faction that makes use of the six million Anaheim and Zeonic MS.
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As I just stated I'm going to stick to the era given however I very well may end up just making a custom faction if I need to to fit in with whatever Zeon remnants I throw in. I don't need Zeon but it'd be odd to not have them in considering the time I intend to have this take place in.
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@swifttalon@MS-24HAssuming we don't have a third member do two want to go ahead with the roleplay anyway?
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If you're comfortable with it, sure. We can keep apps open early on to catch more people on as we go too.
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I guess I'm interested as well, then.
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Alright well before I make an OOC i'd like to hear back from MS or at least wait a day or two too see if I can expect him or not.
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