[OOC] NoW Rnd 2: The Shore

[Skallagrim]

THE SHORE

Start: 2/28/2014
End: 3/15/2014
Combatants: Fuchsia vs. The Archivist.
First Post: The Archivist

This is a mystical place, a fragmented memory of the Dreamers Home World as it was long before they ascended. The opponents start on opposites sides of the lake; the entire area is 2,500 square yards of combat area. The water is special to the Dreamers, from it rises fumes that will affect the senses of the combatants if they linger in the water. The longer one stays in the water the more heightened the sense become for a total of three posts for each of the combatants their senses are similar to the Dreamers. Able to see the entire length and breadth of the electromagnetic spectrum, as well as allowing them to see and understand the influences gravity has on an object.

[MelonHead]

Tier 5 doesn't give you a blanket resistance to all damage, if anything, tier 5 usually includes heightened hearing and therefore more adverse effects from loud noises.

But that's besides the point, it would be difficult if not impossible to hear my characters approach at up to -five- seconds after an explosion goes off relatively close by. It would also be very difficult to see him, due to debris and his cloaking.

None of these things are impossible, but I'd expect to see a serious delay in your reaction time, rather than an acknowledgement, thought process, most tactical combat decision. Its customary to defend against an attack like mine with a reflex move, which is perfectly understandable provided your character has superhuman reflexes, if not, then he's essentially avoiding a spider running at about the speed of a car on the motorway after an explosion blew up in his face, difficult by any means.

[MelonHead]

Also, take note that my web attack was in fact charged, so in that situation your rocket would have been insufficient to stop it, hence why the explosion is so close to your character. My charge was transferred to your own attack, because it made the most logical sense in this situation.

[Vordak]

Also, doesn't the battleground consist mainly of sand? You might want to consider that, as the Archivist would be at even more an advantage in that case, the sound he makes becoming nigh-unhearable.

[Green]

I'm afraid I'm about to repeat myself, but whatever. In no way did Fuchsia have a rocket explode in his face, or anywhere near enough for it to cause any damage to him whatsoever. For it to have been done so, the Archivist would have had to fire his web before the demon even fired his weapon, which would have been an interrupt. As it is, you stated that the Archivist launched his web as the rocket left the barrel, which means the two projectiles meet each-other halfway between the two combatants, unless you want to tell me the web is traveling at a higher velocity than the rocket.

Assuming it doesn't, that means the two projectiles collide half-way between the two points of origin. 15 feet away from them both. An uncharged rocket does not have that kind of blast radius. Fuchsia is, at the time of the explosion, moving backwards at high speed. A charged attack does not transfer it's power onto the attack it meets. Charging your web once makes it hard as steel (or was it iron?) - And would damage the rocket enough to blow it up. If it wasn't charged, it would have been soft as leather. No?

The terrain is covered in snow and sand. The sand is either wet, frozen, or both.

[MelonHead]

My attack was charged, which indeed increases the consistency of my web, however it made more sense in the situation for your own attack to get knocked back. If you prefer, you can re-write all your post to have my web still fly towards you, which would be even harder to avoid, because your attack was insufficient to completely stop my own.

Understand?

[MelonHead]

Besides which, you're still failing to note that even with your character running backwards (which incidentally wouldn't make much difference as your rocket flies so fast, and would take fractions of a second to cover fifteen feet (the halfway point your insisting it reached) he's still incredibly close to an -explosion-. I'm assuming you didn't note in your sheet a resistance to loud noises, so with even normal human hearing you should be only able to hear the dull ringing of explosion.

[Green]

The rockets explode upon impact. Ain't no pushing those things back. The web is not penetrating in nature. It specifically says that it's purpose is to stick to things and hinder their movement. As solid as iron, sure, but it's no bullet, and would react poorly to an explosion going around in the midst of it. Again, just because an ability is charged does not make it a universal tool of destruction.

And of course I'd insist on the two projectiles meeting half-way, you make it sound like doing so lacks sense. They launched at the same time, so they reach the same amount of space. If we were to go at it in technical terms, the rocket would have gone even further. You keep telling me I should change my post according to the charged attack, when you yourself failed to specify in your own post that it did anything other than blow up upon impact with the rocket. I quote; "“How droll.” The Archivist muttered watching his net-like web collide with the rocket in mid-air. It wrapped around the projectile and exploded, far closer to his demonic foe than the spider himself."

I'm going to continue to reason that he's not going to be deafened by the explosion. Firing the Hellzooka without earplugs would produce as much, if not more noise, due to proximity to his head, against him. Since he's not getting deafened by that, it's reasonable to assume that he has at the very least a moderate resistance to loud noises of that nature. Even if he did not, temporary deafening and dull ringing as a result of a loud noise is not guaranteed; There's just a higher chance of it occurring.

At this point I suggest we get a ruling.

[Skallagrim]

Charged attacks require an equally charged defense to negate. As for the rest give me a bit to read the sequence of events.

[Skallagrim]

Sorry gang the flight from the west coast to east took longer than I expected.

[Green]

No worries.

[Skallagrim]

Alright- So the bazooka and the spear meet, but based on the speed of the rocket and the speed of the thrown spear they will meet and detonate roughly 2/3 of the way towards the intended target.

The sound of the explosion will not be as adverse to a person using the weapon, to wit men who use heavy weapons repeatedly in combat; the sound becomes an accustomed and normalized effect, especially outside where the sound can dissipate more readily than in a confined area.

As Gado states there will be little in the way of a crater since the explosion occurred in the air, and the majority of the explosive force would be directed towards The Archivist, but will have minimal effects since it was not charged and had been blunted by a charged defensive move.

While I am not sure how much of sound the spider will make scrambling across the sandy beach, probably minimal so it would require a highly acute sense of sound to hear the creature. However while cloaked the spider will leave a tell-tale sign of his movement across the sand. It is possible that tracks will be seen but at the speed the spider is moving towards the demon a normalized attack can occur or other defensive measures can be employed with some creative thought.

[Green]

Gotcha. Does the web continue to travel towards Fuchsia after exploding the rocket?

[Skallagrim]

if it does probably not far enough to affect you.

[Green]

Alright. I'll go ahead and edit my post according to the rulings :)

Edit: Le done.

[Green]

@Melonhead - Just pointing out one thing; the Archivist was running straight forward towards Fuchsia. Which means that even if he was aiming for the dirt behind him, which he wasn't, the rocket would still come straight towards the Archivist. - I have no issue with him dodging it, of course. But he's going to have to do so. When he does, keep in mind that the rockets will self-destruct if they get close enough to do some damage. So if he's Matrix dodging it, it's going to blow up in his face, if he's moving out of it's path entirely (by two-three meters) he'll be safe and sound.

I don't know if the Archivist has the ability to stick to the ground with his legs, but if he does, you probably want to mention that in your post as well, if not, well, the 140kg spider is probably going to be pulled into the air by the upwards force Fuchsia put into his jump.

And if I wanted to be really really nitpicky; Fuchsia is wearing pants, seeing his muscles (of which he has little to show) would be kind of hard. It is, however, very obvious that he's about to jump, so I really have no issue with the Archivist identifying it as such ^_^

[MelonHead]

When I say muscles bunching, I essentially mean the half-crouch stance involved.

I used my near invisibility to dodge your attack (by saying your character missed, essentially.) I only have 30 seconds of invisibility available in a fight, so five seconds of that is a fair price to pay considering I also took some minor damage from an attack your character just threw out of no-where mid-dodge.

And yes, my character is a spider, he has spider legs, he sticks to the ground. My character is also considerably strong, so the pulling force he's enacting is more than enough to counter-act your jump, especially if the second web attaches.

[MelonHead]

Also, despite Skallagrim's ruling that the rocket now covered 2/3 of the distance towards my character, that still means that for a third of his journey towards you he's covered by smoke, perhaps even more as the cloud was probably pretty significant. Therefore your character has significantly less reaction time than 'he will arrive in about five seconds' so that would also seriously impact your attack. You could either attack accurately, or dodge effectively, not both.

[Skallagrim]

Based on the speed listed on Melon's CS the distance can be covered in a dazzling short amount of time. Remember a human from a standing start can cover 120 feet in 4+ seconds. Covering the distance between you both can be done in a post. Can melon's character out run a hellzooka projectile? No but he can cover the distance easily.

[Green]

1. Half-crouch, gotcha.

2. Spider legs sticking to the ground, gotcha.

3. You stated that it takes the Archivist five seconds to reach Fuchsia. Fuchsia is by no means standing still during that, he is in fact running backwards, which means that the smoke is by no means covering more than 1/3 of the spider's approach. Following that, he is fully capable of firing a second shot at the same angle he is already holding his Hellzooka (which will hit the Archivist perfectly if he doesn't dodge) before jumping. He has plenty of opportunity to attack accurately and dodge effectively.

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Edit:

As Skallagrim said, the Archivist is fully capable of reaching Fuchsia quickly. But I had to go by the fact that Melonhead's previous post clearly states "It would take him less than 5 seconds to reach him."