[OOC] Of Science and Magic

[Riven Wight]

Woo!

So, do you mind if we do kind of like what we did at the beginning, with a post or so before before they potentially run into each other? What I have right now's rather lengthy, so would be better broken up for the sake of readability (I was in a writing mood), and it'd be good to know where you have Byrce at after thirteen months! Zane would probably often be around him, almost like a lost puppy with a burn scar on his face and neck after Thea's kidnapping.

Oh, judging by your last post, I'd guess you're good with dark story bits, right? I'm not good at defining "dark," but I'd say a good portion of this is headed that way, so wanted to make sure. (Sorry if I already asked, and forgot. It's been a long couple months.)

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn You can separate the post if you'd like or just make it one but one as well x3 your chose really, I'll have to come up with where Bryce would be after this. Ad that's fine, dark-theme's don't bother me so much ^^

Doing a post before focusing on the present woukd be a good idea as well, that way we can fill in a few gaps and add to the story. I'm excited to see how this plays out! :D

[Riven Wight]

@Arista

Okay. Yay for posts! Don't say I didn't warn you about length. I'm going to break it up. As a quick prediction, would you be okay with, say, three loner posts before I get her to a place where they could potentially run into each other?

Since Thea remembers diddly squat in the story's present, and because I like leaving questions to be answered (plus, she's going to have to remember stuff sometime, so I'd just probably end up rewriting some of it in some form, anyway), I'm starting maybe a few hours--a day at most--before their potential reuniting. But please, feel free to base your next start whenever, so long as it ultimately ends up with both our characters at the same day and time.

By the way, my OCD loves that the time skip begins on the top of the second page. Oh, and would you mind if I were to add that Thea's presence sometimes cancels out the effects of scientific machinery? Realized I have more on the magic side of things on her profile than the science side.

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn I'm fine with that, it'll give me time to think of what the hell Bryce woikd be doing. His history seemed forced to me so I might add to it with these posts if that's fine. So we'll be doing three posts so fill in gaps before they meet?

Yes ma'am! If I have questions I'll either PM you or post them here if that's okay? :)

And sure, add away ^^

[Riven Wight]

Of course. Do what comes best for you, and what you feel fits for Byrce. Will roughly three posts work for you? I can probably find something to delay it maybe by one more post, if you needed, but from how it's fitting on paper vs. in my head at the moment, I'm guessing I'll have her out by the end of a third (which I believe means after a second for you), decently sized post. If you have gaps you want to leave to fill in later, that's also fine by me. Like I said, I love when questions remain in a story--hence one reason for me not filling in the space between Thea's capture and their present--even if I know the answers to them. But I'm also good with knowing what went on, if you want to fill them all in.

Tee-hee. She called me "ma'am." And of course! At the moment, I might be more likely to answer things here than in PMs, though. I'm in that kind of mode.

Awesome. I'll let you know when I get around to editing that in. One joy of character profiles: they don't have to be perfect. For me, they're more of a set of guidelines, not rules, to start with that can--and likely will--be tweaked the more familiar you get with the character and his/her story.

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@Arista

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn Works for me, thid is a test to see of I can develop him more then i have so far. As well as to see if I can write longer posts as well. I mifht have to get on my computer for this x3 TWO posts for Byrce should be fine. I'm assuming I should start my next post just ad you did? A day before thry meet and for my next it'll be a filler in a way?

Roger! *salutes*

Same, its more of a way to keep track of how you intend your character to be, writi f as you go helps as well i think. Let's see if I can do Byrce justice ^^

[Riven Wight]

If you want to start yours with a header and picture (if that's what you're referring to initially with the first question), you're most welcome to, but no, you don't have to. Just do what comes naturally to you, on both accounts! I just did that to help with the obviousness of that time skip. I'll probably do a sort of time update on the one where she does get out, just so you know when she's at, and you can let me know if you'd like that changed. For starting a day before with Byrce, that's entirely up to you. You could start a week previous, or longer, if you wanted and had the inspiration, and throw in your own time skips mid-post. Thea's is based probably more of a handful or so of hours prior, than a full day. She's not going to be unconscious for too long. But, like I said, how they get to the same time doesn't matter, as long as they get there.

At ease, soldier!

Exactly! YOU CAN DO THIS! And sweet! I may be making you drop the phone for a bit for a computer! <-- I'm partial to computers for writing, so what do you expect? Lastly, go you for challenging yourself!

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@Arista

[Riven Wight]

URGH! OOPS POST. I WANT TO SMASH MY INTERNET RIGHT NOW.

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn Let's see what my brain can come up with x3

Expect questions as we progress :P

That was your plan wasn't it? To get me on my laptop. I see how it is, you sneaky raven >:P I hope I do well with this self-apoointed challenge :D

[Riven Wight]

*Gives a thumbs-up.*

*Is patiently awaiting any questions as they arise, legs crossed and hands folded sage-like.*

MUHAHAHA! When your dastardly plots succeed! >:-D Heh, nah, but now I'm interested to see if your writing style shifts at all between devices. I know mine always does. It'll be interesting! Though it may not mean much, I have faith in you!

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn Lol x3 so to clarify I'll have two posts in which I should explain what Byrce is doing now, while the other explains what happened just after he'd awoken after the capture? That makes sense to me I just don't want to interfere with any ideas you mifht have :)

Thanks! I hope I do alright, its been awhile since I've typed on my laptop xD

[Riven Wight]

If that's what you want to do with those two posts, then yep! I could try to get everything into two posts, if you didn't want to do two yourself, if you'd like, but I have no idea how long that'd get. Seriously, though, whatever you feel like with that.

Brace yourself for the ideas mulling around my head about this beginning portion. This is gonna get long. xD

Well, for them meeting back up, I was thinking either they would accidentally cross paths, or Zane would run into her somewhere not too far from wherever your guy's at, then go fetch Byrce. The dungeon's hidden well enough that it could have been right beneath her kingdom and still not be found, so the where doesn't exactly matter. The only people who know of its location are the two Sages, the guards there, and, to an extent, Thea.

Regarding what happened after their capture... He did a number on the Scientists. The Mage would have deflected his attack. She wouldn't have healing abilities, but she'd have been capable of at least helping the Scientists enough for them to get to safety, since Thea wasn't going anywhere. Since the younger guy wouldn't have been in as bad shape, he'd likely have made sure Byrce wouldn't come to, gotten Bearded-man somewhere safe where he could lick his wounds, then come back for your werewolf.
As for what they did to him, they're low-grade Scientists, so they'd be a bit more limited. Maybe trying to find another weakness or figure out why/how a werewolf has magic (I believe we discussed that in PM, but memory refreshers are always a good thing), trying out different things on him. However, since he'd be the best one to blame for her disappearance, they wouldn't be capable of keeping him too long before having to release him, I'm thinking with some sort of planted evidence on him that he had attacked Thea in a crazed rage or something. Which making him look that part could always be apart of what they did to him. Maybe sending him into one of the said disorientated rages once he came to?
Hmm. You put in his profile that his leg hardly supports his weight. Perhaps because of a method they used to be capable of tracking him down and keeping an occasional eye on him? To see if their experiments had done anything to him over the course of the next year or so. That'd make for some wonderful trouble for Byrce and Thea once they're together.

With the way things would have been outside all that, the Mage would have made sure to clean up any evidence the trio had left, and, with Byrce such a convenient person to take the fall for it, also plant evidence to make a stronger case against him. Zane would have ran back to the castle when he regained consciousness to try alerting them that something was wrong. The king would have been furious and heartbroken, to say the least.
Since Byrce disappeared and everything would be pointing to him murdering Thea (keep in mind that there's also a spy inside the castle I hinted at, so s/he could help in determining that cause), not just kidnapping, he'd blame the werewolves, and werewolves and Altreiah would likely have been on the brink of war just before Byrce popped back up, providing a solution. As an idea, what if the Altreian king wanted Byrce to be sentenced to death for his crimes, and in exchange he would not declare war on werewolves (for such a crime, the only sentence in that general time period would be death, not banishment), but someone close to him believed his story, and managed to save him? So, not wanting to risk the casualties of war, the werewolves found a substitute that would be enough to convince the king that they had killed Byrce?

Phew! Hope all that made sense!

Of course, this is all just me thinking not-exactly-out-loud. Please, throw your suggestions, thoughts, and ideas into all that! That's a joy of collaborative brainstorming. You can feed and play off each other's ideas.

... I'm sorry that I've sorta taken things over. *Sigh.* I tend to do that when I get excited about a story. Please, if you feel like I'm being overbearing here or anything, or not giving you the chance to do what you want with this, say so!

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@Arista

[Arista]

@Siaya Dragalorn Two posts should be enough to get things started ^^

Yay for ideas! This story is turning out better and better as it goes forward:3 ♡

.....I dreamt of this. Like honestly I did and it's got me so hyped I'm ready to type. :D:D I meant to add that I was going to change his punishment to death for public appearances because I realised that banishment didn't fit the crime he would be accused of. I'll edit his history to add thid in as well, I think I have an idea for how Byrce 'dies' but in reality is taken away from the kingdom by his grandparents if that's fine. As for how they'd keep an eye on Byrce...hmm...maybe something within his leg? Like it's still flesh and bone but it's also maybe metallic? Bouncing off ideas might be very useful as we go along:)

Nah, you're not. I'm glad your as excited as I am about this ^_^ I knee we'd make the best partners x3

[Riven Wight]

Alrighty! Keeps me from having to write half a novel for one post. xD I love breaking things into sort of "chapters," especially when they end at cliffhangers.

Well, thanks for reading all that. Heh. My head is extremely crowded, so it's nice to have that out there somewhere.

HA! That's great. Let me know when you do your edits, and I'll read them! We did change that bit of his history considerably in our first IC page. Heh. And of course! Whatever you see fit for your wolves. Though, he would probably still be exiled from the kingdom. If he were to show his face, the werewolves' treachery could come to light. Even with Cedric on the throne now that... *Goes to profile to figure out what Thea's father's name is.* Elyon's recently dead, it could still mean war for them. I'm kind of sad I didn't use Elyon, Sibyl, or Asher in the beginning. They got to be busy that morning for the sake of getting Thea to the garden semi-quickly. But oh well.

Hmm. I'm thinking that Byrce's Scientists wouldn't have had the access or capabilities needed to make an organic metal, if that's what you're getting at. But... Going off what you said, what about something small and metallic that they've coated with some kind of synthetic, bone-like material to make it more difficult for healers (because you gotta have both the conventional and magical kinds of healers in a fantasy story, eh? xD) to sense/find, and inserted it into one of the bones in his leg (ow...)? Something they managed to make transmit an electrical signal on command, that would go off for a short time so they could pick it up and figure out his general location?

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@Arista

[Arista]

I don't mind reading long posts, that just motivates me more :)

No worries, I like reading ideas and adding to them if I can lol.

That sounds painful and just want I had in mind? With these electric signals could that be a reason as to why he loses control? I'm still trying to find a way to have that happen, with that I 've start my post ^^ @Siaya Dragalorn

[Arista]

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[Riven Wight]

Random period, an extra correction, or an oops post? xD

Hmm. Good idea. Could be. Do you want it to be a one-time deal, or something that could potentially happen again? If a one-time deal, maybe they loaded it with something a little extra the first time, so they were capable of watching for when he awoke, was around others to witness him, and had it release the boost of whatever (a chemical? An electrical pulse to disrupt his normal brain function? Man, I'm not scientifically inclined. Nothing like the present to practice! I should try to consume more sci-fy media or something.) it was, and sent him into a frenzy.

I edited pretty much the entirety of Thea's profile. Except for the bio. I think the only area I edited in that was the last paragraph. I started reading it, and was like, "WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!" Why didn't you tell me it was so horribly written? I barely understood some of it, and I wrote the darn thing! Hope it's better now. Let me know if it is or not, if you read through it? Like I think I've said, she has the potential of being pretty powerful, but I think I'm usually pretty good about downplaying power or balancing it out with weaknesses. I should be asleep right now, not playing on the computer. But sleep and I don't get along very well.

I just realized. Our avi GIFs kinda fit each other. Besides both having snow, ravens often tail wolves, and even mess with them. I believe they like to follow them so they can scavenge their kills.

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@Arista

[Arista]

Double post more like x3

Hmm...I had the idea of it happening again, sporadically of course which each time the period of length he's out of it(I imagine the first time after he's released would last maybe five minutes) and the lingering damages we spoke of would play in effect as well. His leg is able to support his weight but not like before, its in constant pain and will give out if he's standing too long. As for the effects from each electrical pulse, maybe it causes internal injury or it forces him to harm himself? Possibilities are endless with this really x3

My history for him kills me, like "I wrote this? It looks like so just made cheap up and forced it into sentence format" x.x I'll edit him when I can, I think I'll be able to start my post now. Let's hope I do it justice :)

...You're right! They match x3 Cool! @Siaya Dragalorn

[Riven Wight]

I like calling double posts "oops posts," because I always say "oops" when they happen.

So what about the above for that first time (an extra, intended electrical pulse), making it last that extended period of time, only it affected the tracker in a way they did not predict? So it still occasionally sends short spurts of electric signals through his body, and messes with the signals sent to his brain, affecting him physically and mentally. Maybe triggering the rage part of his brain, and firing off pain signals in the process, creating a dangerous combination in a werewolf, every once in a while for however long you were hoping for? Endless possibilities, yes, but it is always good to figure out what, exactly, you want something to do! Makes being consistent easier.

... Is it bad that I kinda love that our characters are physically messed up? Man, I'm cruel to characters. I promise I'm generally a nice person to people in reality, and don't want to see real people get hurt!

So, I ended up saying that Thea's heritage is equal parts Scientist, Mage, and human with her generation, so thought I'd elaborate a bit and see what you think since I separated the two from humans. With that, I'm referring to born Scientists, not humans with a higher IQ who join their ranks.

What I'm thinking, is that there's something in each of their DNA that sets them apart just enough for Mages and Scientists to be not quite human and gain stronger powers/abilities. Each has their own sort of energy about them that allows them to cast magic or create things at a superior mental level. All the Sage Scientists would have been born that way, hence them excelling enough to be Sages. For Mages, it's a matter of how prevalent the Mage DNA is in them that determines how strong they get. And, of course, the "purer" the bloodline for either, the stronger the capabilities. With the energy aspect, it's kind of an intangibly tangible thing (which probably makes more sense in my head): born Scientists (and their creations) have the energy of knowledge, Mages (and their magic/enchantments) of wisdom, and your average human (as well as anything "normal," such as some plants and most animals not of magic or scientific origin) of understanding. Different mixes of the DNA bring out those forms of energy in various ways, allowing someone to be stronger or weaker in associated aspects. Because Thea and her brothers are equal parts of each, they could ultimately end up being any of those if they put their minds to it. Or, if they did not bother, they would simply be "normal." Which then adds that extra sense of mystery to werewolves, making it an uncertainty as to which of the three they're apart of, if not somehow all of them in a fluctuating, unstable mix that allows them to shift between human and creature.

I hope that made some lick of sense. What do you think?

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@Arista