Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[mdk]

negative covfefe.

[Penny]

Maybe CNN is trying to convince republicans that paid family leave hurts women. You know, so they will vote for it ;)

[Dolerman]

@Penny It makes sense to try an control two sides of a narrative.

[Penny]

Wow, one cannot but stand in awe.

[Penny]

I am pleasantly transported to an alternate universe where Fox News is just a long con to build up a huge network of rabid followers and then slowly wean them off the drug.

[mdk]

@Penny It makes sense to try an control two sides of a narrative.

@Dynamo Frokane

CNN is only interested in one side (sauce is linked)

Maybe CNN is trying to convince republicans that paid family leave hurts women. You know, so they will vote for it ;)

@Penny

perhaps they're just trying to convince Democrats to vote against it -- so the budget will win. Get it? Because democrats are hemorrhaging votes.

[Penny]

perhaps they're just trying to convince Democrats to vote against it -- so the budget will win. Get it? Because democrats are hemorrhaging votes.

@mdk

Actually no, what do you mean?

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

I never followed the traditional media let alone trusted it, even Fox News' network, so this entire ordeal of the majority trying to put spin on things or drum up non-existent controversy has remained laughable. I have to admit it is a circus of epic proportions but the real source of amusement is just how the current administration is using it against them; I've not seen anything quite like it. The media as a whole is caustic and looking solely for stories to push their agenda and make them money. Not much a surprise there given they are a business and all, just that their standards of what is "newsworthy" are mostly limp and lame.

[Penny]

I like the BBC myself, although they aren't quite as good as they used to be. be. see. We need some fedora sporting reporters from the old noirs!

[ArenaSnow]

The only real source of news is a hack-and-slash version of what you come up with based on the conflicting narratives of multiple outlets these days.

[ArenaSnow]

Just realized I have undone Dynamo Frokane's post count by some 500ish posts. Weelp.

[Dolerman]

Just realized I have undone Dynamo Frokane's post count by some 500ish posts. Weelp.

@ArenaSnow

[mdk]

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Actually no, what do you mean?

@Penny

You've surely heard of the Republican control over the house, senate, and Presidency. That's the main legislative bodies in the nation, plus the executive branch; Trump also gets to select judges for the SCOTUS (and is doing a splendid job of it, I might add) -- meaning Democrats are basically entirely powerless on the national level. It's a real rout.

But it gets worse, because as poorly as they did in the national elections, they've done even worse in state and local elections. It's the biggest defeat in a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. And it goes on -- special elections have been cropping up here and there for various reasons, and the GOP is winning all of those too (notably, the recent Montana election during which the republican nominee physically fought with a CNN reporter just a day or two before the vote -- and in the next 24 hours raised over $100k in support).

Basically, the democrats are losing on all fronts. So the joke is, if they want to pass something, they should try as hard as they possibly can to vote AGAINST it, and the GOP will take the bait and vote in favor purely out of spite.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

[Penny]

@mdk ah ok I'm with you.

I was already aware of the fact that republicans were in control of the house the senate and the presidency of course.

As for the guy in Montana, people who will vote for a young earth creationist who opposes gay marriage are hardly going to let a little assault muddy the issue...

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

@Penny

People have the right to oppose gay marriage, right or wrong, just as they do to maintain their beliefs. Does that mean I agree with them or support those opinions? No, but the people of Montana voted for Greg Gianforte legitimately, just as an investigation is going to be initiated on his conduct with the reporter; they did so even knowing that such an investigation was open and that there were going to be charges and it actually improved his results. I would say by an American standard, that this worked, given that none the less, the amount of support he received in it seems to suggest that most people are tired of the same old being propagated (even recounted in witness statements). Does this condone or excuse his actions? No, as I certainly do not advocate them or believe he should have.

Point being, barring the fact he engaged misdemeanor assault, a fairly low level crime but still a criminal act, there's not much an issue here.

[Penny]

@The Harbinger of Ferocity people have the right to oppose gay marriage of course but its still contemptible.

Voting someone who assaults journalists is also contemptible. It isn't surprising given the current fake news / the media is the enemy of the people rhetoric but its still pathetic.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

Having journalists continue to harass, twist words, alter the narrative and annoy people is worthy of contempt as well. Was it worthy of a beating? Based upon the reports I have read, not suitable grounds for it. The man, Gianforte that is, honestly sounds like he broke character and did what a majority of people are encouraging, which is an interesting result. I am assuming that's why he received all the support he did, by doing what a great number of people want to do at the moment.

[Penny]

Having journalists continue to harass, twist words, alter the narrative and annoy people is worthy of contempt as well.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

This is journalism. We don't have to agree with what they print and if you are running for public office you signed up for it. The fact that a great number of people are in favor of attacking journalists should be cause for major concern in any free society.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

Journalism is not that at all as a profession. Journalism is the unbiased reporting of information that would be considered newsworthy or notable to the general audience of a reader, listener, or viewer. At its core the function of journalism should be about the information itself and not the journalist's political biases or those of the company or organization they belong to. None of those qualities highlighted in my comment are elements of a professional and are some of the exact reasons the American public absolutely loathes the mainstream media currently. It should also be noted that the shadiness of the current media makes for a trend based historic low in confidence of the media, where only one in three Americans have any confidence in it.