[OOC] Blackshields: The Horus Heresy [Warhammer 30K]

[Jarrid]

Having characters too overpowered also makes for a boring story too. Oh there's another innumerable chaos horde that will fall easily to my blades? Yawn!

[mattmanganon]

@HeySeuss I know, hense why I thought the Praevian would be interesting. Having to fight on despite having a broken body, no Automata to back him up and most of his prosthesis falling to pieces. I mean, I get it. Space Marines are absolutely horrifying. I play Dark Heresy, the system where a Scout Marine is tough enough to be a boss and a standard Tactical is big enough to be the final boss. 10 Space Marines, even under-equipped, under-supplied and half-wounded are still enough to take on most planetary defence forces.

So, would a Word Bearers Devastator with a Volkite Culverine or Autocannon be alright?

[HeySeuss]

I like this. It's easy to imagine marines in a setting like this as unstoppable paragons of warfare, striding effortlessly through battle as some kind of obvious author insertion. Having us all with faulty kit, limited resources and even more limited ammo is a great idea. It adds much needed peril to characters who normally would be nigh on impervious to harm. Really excited for this and hoping it starts soon.

Is my character in keeping with your rp btw? let me know if kurak needs editing

@Jarrid

He's good to go. And I am going for that sort of dynamic where a small elite force can be overwhelmed if it is not careful and smart. The Blackshields will still be a strike force on foot that can get overwhelmed by superior numbers. They'll have to make up the difference with the element of surprise and violence of action...and, yeah, making wise choices on where to hit so as to pick up the materiel they need to carry on their crusade. I intend to make supplies a real issue. I'd also love help on devising that situation so we can, indeed, keep the fights from being too cupcake.

@HeySeuss I know, hense why I thought the Praevian would be interesting. Having to fight on despite having a broken body, no Automata to back him up and most of his prosthesis falling to pieces. I mean, I get it. Space Marines are absolutely horrifying. I play Dark Heresy, the system where a Scout Marine is tough enough to be a boss and a standard Tactical is big enough to be the final boss. 10 Space Marines, even under-equipped, under-supplied and half-wounded are still enough to take on most planetary defence forces.

So, would a Word Bearers Devastator with a Volkite Culverine or Autocannon be alright?

@mattmanganon

It'll be tough to maintain, but he can always start with one.

[Ozymandias]

One of the Ciaphas Cain novels has a somewhat similar theme to this, with regard to the state of ill repair, lack of supplies and general asymmetry of forces. The whole story centres around a band of people scavenging what they need, occasionally coming across PDF deposits of ammunition, etc., or Mechanicus shrines, and otherwise gathering whatever makeshift weaponry and transports they can obtain. One of the best in the series, I reckon, because of the fact that it centres around the lack of equipment and the desperation of trying to fight a massive opposing force.

Having read that novel, I reckon can probably help with the theme.

[HeySeuss]

One of the Ciaphas Cain novels has a somewhat similar theme to this, with regard to the state of ill repair, lack of supplies and general asymmetry of forces. The whole story centres around a band of people scavenging what they need, occasionally coming across PDF deposits of ammunition, etc., or Mechanicus shrines, and otherwise gathering whatever makeshift weaponry and transports they can obtain. One of the best in the series, I reckon, because of the fact that it centres around the lack of equipment and the desperation of trying to fight a massive opposing force.

Having read that novel, I reckon can probably help with the theme.

@Ozymandias

That sounds about right. I had a little bit of a scenario inspired by Kim Jong Un's parades and the first step involves grabbing what they need.

[Jb]

Anything involving glorious leader can only be good, I'm looking forward to this.

[Apollosarcher]

@HeySeuss I heard mention of Dark Angels... Perhaps a Ravenwing biker and his companions? If that would be alright.

[HeySeuss]

@HeySeuss I heard mention of Dark Angels... Perhaps a Ravenwing biker and his companions? If that would be alright.

@Apollosarcher

While the Ravenwing existed in the pre-Heresy/Heresy times, I would be more inclined to work with jetpack-equipped Marines or similar infantry equipment, but I am not sure I want to start with bikes from the getgo. I also think if these Fallen Angels thought that Johnson betrayed the Emperor, they're going to be marked for huntin' after the heresy.

Still, I'm down, since there is a lot of 'no one actually knows what went on' with the Dark Angels.

[Apollosarcher]

@HeySeuss Well I'm saying for reference he usually operates upon a jetbike like most of the Ravenwing did at the time, since at the time First Legion operates as six wings. However most of that will blown up and along with his squad. After all there has to be a reason Luther never knew how things were going with the Heresy, the messengers never made it.

[HeySeuss]

@HeySeuss Well I'm saying for reference he usually operates upon a jetbike like most of the Ravenwing did at the time, since at the time First Legion operates as six wings. However most of that will blown up and along with his squad. After all there has to be a reason Luther never knew how things were going with the Heresy, the messengers never made it.

@Apollosarcher

That works for me. A whiff of conspiracy and paranoia is always necessary for the Angels, but it sounds like you have that well in hand.

[Apollosarcher]

@HeySeuss Of course I did originally think of playing one of the many Cypher's that came before the one on Caliban before but you know, then I'd have to cause a lot of trouble.

[HeySeuss]

Looks good. I have a party to attend tonight for the Preakness Stakes, but tomorrow I want to get a post done.

[Wraithblade6]

Looks good. I have a party to attend tonight for the Preakness Stakes, but tomorrow I want to get a post done.

@HeySeuss

What is your connection or interest in horses that you would be attending such a party?

[HeySeuss]

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What is your connection or interest in horses that you would be attending such a party?

@Wraithblade6

I live in Baltimore, it's traditional.

[Jarrid]

Are we starting the rp any time soon chaos?

[HeySeuss]

Are we starting the rp any time soon chaos?

@Jarrid

Yeah, I'm writing the first post, actually.

[Jb]

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Yeah, I'm writing the first post, actually.

@HeySeuss

Oh yes...

Yeeeees

[HeySeuss]

First post is up. The deal is this; we have a forested/rolling hills sort of area because I am envisioning the Dirty Dozen with Space Marines and because they need to commandeer some Rhino APC's.

Beyond that, I left it somewhat open so people can improvise on what the deployment is (do they start on the outskirts and cut down sentries or do they land hard in the middle and start killing, or is there a split of forces to try to do both?) and what the enemy forces look like.

It's also worth noting that the entire militia is not corrupted, but character actions can determine whether or not some of them break off and flee (or fight alongside) or simply get wiped out due to suspicion.

Also, they're probably suspicious too. Odds are, they've seen some traitor marines. Of course, characters are displaying loyalist symbols, some of them anyway, so that might help.

[Jarrid]

Ready to go. I'd love to post first but one of the defining characteristics of my character is that he is not good at General strategic plans!

One of you grand commanders put down the basis of a plan and I'll gladly run with it!

[Jb]

I made a rough plan in the last RP, although the scenario differed too, so I'll await our Raven Guard or Emperor's Child to come up with a cunning assault. Mine would only be a frontal assault anyway.