[OOC] Knights of Elementia.

[Keyblade87]

Perhaps spirit is like a rallying effect and she could use a more chaos oriented ability bad Luck I guess

[NobodiesHero]

I don't know if this helps, but I consider Spirit to be channeling pure energy. And since I'm playing the Knight of Spirit I think I get a say in that.

[The Irish Tree]

Perhaps spirit is like a rallying effect and she could use a more chaos oriented ability bad Luck I guess

@Keyblade87

...I mean...I kinda assumed Spirit would be the aspect of the soul, like repairing someone with the mana in the air or something.

The opposite would be something that would relate to the body, perhaps some form of magic based around physical life? Just...outright Life?

[Keyblade87]

Oh absolutely NobodiesHero

[NobodiesHero]

So I think of Spirit as the channeling of pure energy, of using your physical and mental strength basically. So the opposite of that could be some sort of draining element, that draws energy from other things and uses that?

[The Irish Tree]

So I think of Spirit as the channeling of pure energy, of using your physical and mental strength basically. So the opposite of that could be some sort of draining element, that draws energy from other things and uses that?

@NobodiesHero

I mean...Spirit kinda can be inferred as being "The Soul", wheras maybe the opposite of that would be "The Body", IE: Vitality or something. Draining stuff to increase your power sounds like a very NOT-good guy like power for one of the heroes of the gods to have.

[NobodiesHero]

@The Irish Tree When I think of the element Spirit, the first thing that comes to mind is the word spirited, which means full of energy. Thus why I make it an energy based, or more physical, magic element. Some of the opposite words for that would be apathetic, lazy, unlively which makes me think that the opposite of Spirit would be some sort of draining, or debuffing, element.

[ViannaNight]

@nobodieshero so basically a life drainer is what you are saying? I can only think of two that I can think of that would be somewhat opposite of spirit would be death or chaos. The reason I say death is because to me not only does spirit embodies energy but also life. Everything living has a spirit.

[The Irish Tree]

@The Irish Tree When I think of the element Spirit, the first thing that comes to mind is the word spirited, which means full of energy. Thus why I make it an energy based, or more physical, magic element. Some of the opposite words for that would be apathetic, lazy, unlively which makes me think that the opposite of Spirit would be some sort of draining, or debuffing, element.

@NobodiesHero

@nobodieshero so basically a life drainer is what you are saying? I can only think of two that I can think of that would be somewhat opposite of spirit would be death or chaos. The reason I say death is because to me not only does spirit embodies energy but also life. Everything living has a spirit.

@ViannaNight

But...can Death even really be classified as an element? I can understand Spirit and Life, as they are things that at least in some capacity is "there", but with Death/Chaos, that's more the absence of something. I think its more..."Good Guy" to have Spirit be juxtaposed to an element of "Vitality", where Spirit is the manifestation of power outside of the body, IE in someone else or in the form of energy, and have Vitality be the manifestation of inner power, having no real spells that affect others, but having tremendous powers that they use on themselves.

[NobodiesHero]

@ViannaNight Not at all. I like to think of it the way that Cardcaptor Sakura thinks of the Sun and Moon, which are sort of treated like elements. The Sun, or Spirit in this case, draws power from itself, while the Moon draws power from others. One is not better than the other, and neither are considered good or evil.

Perhaps Spirit could manifest in two different forms, one being what my character uses, drawing energy from himself and the other where they draw energy from something else? Perhaps sunlight or moonlight?

[ViannaNight]

@NobodiesHero

So kind of like your character would be the sun spirit drawing energy from himself and then my character be like a moon spirit where she has to draw energy from some place different other then herself like the moonlight in order to have her needed energy?

[The Irish Tree]

@ViannaNight Not at all. I like to think of it the way that Cardcaptor Sakura thinks of the Sun and Moon, which are sort of treated like elements. The Sun, or Spirit in this case, draws power from itself, while the Moon draws power from others. One is not better than the other, and neither are considered good or evil.

Perhaps Spirit could manifest in two different forms, one being what my character uses, drawing energy from himself and the other where they draw energy from something else? Perhaps sunlight or moonlight?

@NobodiesHero

Isn't that too close to the Light/Darkness we already have though?

[Rekaigan]

@ViannaNight@NobodiesHero

Y'know this whole 'Sun and Moon' thing is... covered by Light and Dark elements... This is all pretty unnecessary.

You might be reading into representations a little too far and coming up with concepts that seem very out of place. We're looking for elements not Astrological phenomena.

Spirit is related to the body and soul. The opposite to that is Death. Simple enough? However, since death is not a "good good", think of something else maybe.

[NobodiesHero]

@ViannaNight Something like that yeah. If that's what you want to go with. We could probably come up with some sweet joint attacks where your character draws energy from mine and uses it to do some pretty cool stuff.

[ViannaNight]

@Rekaigan

We wouldn't actually call it sun and moon because we know that is covered by Light and Dark. I was just trying to understand what everyone was saying and the sun and moon was the best way i could understand it.

@NobodiesHero

Yeah we could but we would have to figure out what the two different spirits would be. Like ying and yang. kind of like twins. where your character can draw from himself but my character has to draw from you. i don't see why we couldn't do that, as long as it is okay with the GM

[Keyblade87]

As long as you guys can come up with a system that works for you I'll be happy

[ViannaNight]

@nobodiesheroAlso my post last night. I didn't mean actual twins just spiritual twins. We can come up with something really cool for it all.

Thank you @keyblade87

[NobodiesHero]

@ViannaNight I kind of figured it would be spiritual twins. But yeah that works. Perhaps we could call it Inner Spirit, for my character's part, and Outer Spirit for your character's? I dunno that's the first thing that came to my head.

[Duoya]

Maybe Arcane? Spirit is drawn from within, Arcane is drawn from the surroundings?

[ViannaNight]

@nobodieshero yeah something like that or I kinda of like what @duoya said about arcane. We can still be spiritual twins but my element would be like arcane spirit instead of regular spirit. Also not knowing they are spiritual twins until they are in the same room or something like that. What do you think? I will most likely get a character up sometime today with the arcane spirit.