[OOC] Streets on Fire

[Aalakrys]

@Fading Memory
Hmm ... I could, when I get a chance (possibly tonight - work load looks light), use some of what you wrote for Leigh's intro post if she was slinking and skirting through enemy territory at the time.

@YoshiSkittlez@Blitz
That leads me to a question ... That I should have asked when we were doing questions. ^^;
So, how well do the rival gangs know each others' members?
I'd imagine that Leigh would try not to be known as I wrote her up as a very low-profile sort. I mean, slightly big role as a ferry(wo)man, but she isn't a Matron. And sort of a watcher/reporter. She doesn't infiltrate or mingle with people.
Oh! And second question! Do the Lost Ones have some sort of identifier on them? Like, tattoos or something? It seems like they're the sort to not do that so obviously. So, I thought I'd ask.

[Blitz]

@YoshiSkittlez
Ooop, my b! I'm also a he too tho, lol, I always forgot to say something lmao

@Faded Memory
Excellent question!

In the last installment, it wasn't touched much on. There was a scene where both members of the gang were at a bar, and the Lost Ones caught onto the Wolves. The Wolves noticed them staring and caught on and drew conclusion.

I feel as though Angel would be somewhat recognizable. People like Deon might be too, as he has the gang symbol tattooed on them. Lesser members might be harder to catch.

Wolves would definitely be easier to identify as they tend to stick together often. Also, obviously, if your character has run into one before they will recognize them in the future and anyone else they associate with.

So to answer your question... it really depends. I would say your character would probably be suspicious. But it's also safe to say neither side is *extremely* eager to start a confrontation because the police could come in and arrest and/or shoot everyone indiscriminately.

I'm so bad at answering questions. Did that make sense?

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Also, Yosh and I are gonna continue a collab between Angel and Deon to help introduce Yosh's other character as well.

I think I'll be adding a separate intro for ol' Knox.

[Fading Memory]

@Blitz@Faded Memory

I think it's safe to say Gio is probably the most obvious member of either gang. He stands out so much due to his attire and attitudes. If anyone is a guarantee "oh yah that's a wolf" it's him.

Fancy I'm less certain on how obvious it is. On one hand his white hair makes him stand out. On the other hand he's homeless and that's an amazing cover. I'm operating under the assumption the wolves are oblivious to him. He's a noncombatant and a sewer dweller. Not really someone they'd notice. The Lost Ones all know him however. He's always around and helpful.

[Blitz]

@Blitz@Faded Memory

I think it's safe to say Gio is probably the most obvious member of either gang. He stands out so much due to his attire and attitudes. If anyone is a guarantee "oh yah that's a wolf" it's him.

Fancy I'm less certain on how obvious it is. On one hand his white hair makes him stand out. On the other hand he's homeless and that's an amazing cover. I'm operating under the assumption the wolves are oblivious to him. He's a noncombatant and a sewer dweller. Not really someone they'd notice. The Lost Ones all know him however. He's always around and helpful.

@Fading Memory

Exactly.

That also brings up the point of how well people know their own gang members.

With the Wolves, it's safe to say they're quite well connected.

With the Lost Ones, it may not be so. Perhaps you may have met/hear of everyone at least, but a lacking in consistent interaction may lead to forgetting who some people are or inability to recognize them in settings outside of gang-related activities. Of course, there may be ways around this, like dropping hints or whatnot. Again, depends on the people in question.

[Afro Samurai]

To answer Faded's second question from my POV, someone like Hawk wouldn't be scared of wearing colors or paraphernalia to represent the Lost Ones because he is a front-line soldier and ready to bump heads with Wolves if it comes down to it. But Hawk also tends not to venture out of Lost Ones territory so he doesn't run a high risk of getting his head split because of his decision to fly colors.

[Aalakrys]

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Exactly.

That also brings up the point of how well people know their own gang members.

With the Wolves, it's safe to say they're quite well connected.

With the Lost Ones, it may not be so. Perhaps you may have met/hear of everyone at least, but a lacking in consistent interaction may lead to forgetting who some people are or inability to recognize them in settings outside of gang-related activities. Of course, there may be ways around this, like dropping hints or whatnot. Again, depends on the people in question.

@Blitz

Well, in my updated character bio, Leigh reported to the Matron who recruited her. (And I suppose it's assumed that The Matron was well known in the territory - I wrote that up, so I feel kind of silly not knowing. Hahah). But~ with the Matron MIA for that sub-district, assumed KIA, I'd think she'd have found another Matron to report to in the meantime? Like, it's a loose construct of random older women who came up with the idea to serve as guides for the children, but not leaders of the gang. I think it hasn't crossed Leigh's mind that she could just take over the role - like, maybe she'd think that they was some sort of cohesive plan and procedure those women followed? General guidelines, as the pirate Barbosa just said in my head. xD

But, sorry for the random rant ... the point of all that was to say that I gotcha and I don't think Leigh would know many of the other members if that's the case- just the ones she reported to on what she saw of Wolf activity and possible clear paths in while on runs through.

But, to get around all of us Lost Ones just not knowing each other ... maybe we could establish that they already do know each other in some way or will shortly meet upon beginning the RP? That way we don't wander aimlessly doing our own thing forever?

@Afro Samurai@Fading Memory
I can actually see Leigh knowing Fancy, and if Hawk was out and about as he is about being a Lost One, she might approach him after the Matron goes missing since the only other person who might be a member is the green-jacket man and she's kind of at a loss. (He isn't - I know who he is though~ Obvious trope incoming - totally her dad. BYAM!).

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EDIT : okay, I somehow missed the second Blitz post but liked it? I think I should not try to do things while on busy hours at work... I'm free now though for OOC stuff. Still waiting on a few calls to come in so can't commit to focusing on writing. Fun fact: I wrote all of Leigh's extra bio-stuff in my head while driving home. Then got home and wrote most of it down. Got tired, fell asleep, woke up and finished it. xD

Anyway~ Okay, so ... yeah, I think I'm on board/understanding? Hahah

[Fading Memory]

I think it's fair to say the lost one PCs know each other to some degree. And if they don't I'm willing to just flat state they all know Fancy and Fancy knows all them, just for ease of guaranteed gang cohesion and contact.

So consider Fancy a bottom line and figure out who knows who from there if you guys don't want the easy route of 'team PC knows the other PCs on team PC'. I personally vote for people being able to recognize each other as Lost Ones but little more than that, with the exception of 'everyone knows Fancy'.

[YoshiSkittlez]

In my personal opinion, the Lost Ones relationships is entirely up to you guys. If you want your character to know someone, talk to them about it and come up with some kind of history together that can be mentioned or whatever in game. Not really necessary but it will give posts some nice background flavor.

Also, something that came to mind about people with a lot of power and influence in the Lost Ones... well obviously we have a single leader for the Wolves. Angel. Easy. The Lost Ones? Well in my head I kind of think about it like a large corporation. You have your team lead that you report into daily/weekly/monthly, and then they have to report in to their boss, who you probably have no idea who it is, and they report to their boss who've you've never even heard of and so on. Not so sure that the Lost Ones have a Kingpin, per say, but maybe a small group of individuals that kind of keep things running but don't interact with the members much. I hope that made sense.

[Afro Samurai]

Like a shadow council. Yeah, makes sense.

[Aalakrys]

@Fading Memory

I think I like the idea of them knowing each other as well, but I wasn't sure how the logistics of the Lost Ones worked when I wrote all that stuff up originally so I went all 'Leigh knows Matron and that's it' - but it makes sense that if there were any 'meetings' then the Matron would have brought her along. Which, in all the years they were together, I'm sure there was a meeting. So, taking back what I said in my epic rant.

@Blitz@YoshiSkittlezI was going back to the character sheet to re-read Hawk's info, but it isn't there. ;-;

I was trying to decide who Leigh would be friends with. xD Okay, so below is what I think based on what I know about Leigh and you guys'/gals' Lost Ones

Let's do it this way:

Leigh and Fancy

Really, I think her goals and Fancy's align sort of - the same mentality of helping others. She'd need an emergency exit if she was made, and the sewers are the last resort as she doesn't like enclosed spaces, BUT maybe she's hid a kid or something with him while in transit. Total child-trafficking but in a good way? To save them from bad situations and they actually want to leave? So, she'd know him for sure. If they have some sort of established having-worked-together sort of thing, she would probably be more talkative around him than her usual quiet self. She doesn't talk a lot until she trusts someone.

Leigh and Knox

I think that if they went on recon missions together, and developed some rapport, Leigh would never understand how he's scared of heights. But, they'd work well together as she would always be willing to be an eagle eye if he needed one. So, I think if they had a bond, it would be from working together.

Leigh and Scarlett

Is Scarlett still here? I think Leigh would admire Scarlett's attitude, but would avoid being around her too long - she's too much noise and life. xD

Leigh and Hawk

tdb - I gotta find that IC so I can find his character sheet. I remember some things - and I'm sure she'd like him because I remember something about him looking after ... siblings? okay, off to search~

Found it!

Okay, yeah, she'd totally respect him if they knew each other. Could even see her being somewhat envious of his siblings just for the simple fact that they have him to protect them. Secretly though. =D

Of course this is all first impressions -- I can be entirely wrong~ xD

(I get super high energy between the hours of 11 and 2, normally, so I apologize in advance since ... yeah ... a lot of my OOC might be during that time. xD )

[Aalakrys]

In my personal opinion, the Lost Ones relationships is entirely up to you guys. If you want your character to know someone, talk to them about it and come up with some kind of history together that can be mentioned or whatever in game. Not really necessary but it will give posts some nice background flavor.

Also, something that came to mind about people with a lot of power and influence in the Lost Ones... well obviously we have a single leader for the Wolves. Angel. Easy. The Lost Ones? Well in my head I kind of think about it like a large corporation. You have your team lead that you report into daily/weekly/monthly, and then they have to report in to their boss, who you probably have no idea who it is, and they report to their boss who've you've never even heard of and so on. Not so sure that the Lost Ones have a Kingpin, per say, but maybe a small group of individuals that kind of keep things running but don't interact with the members much. I hope that made sense.

@YoshiSkittlez

YES! That makes sense - just finished my new rant, and saw this. ^^;

[Fading Memory]

>> Well in my head I kind of think about it like a large corporation. You have your team lead that you report into daily/weekly/monthly, and then they have to report in to their boss...

@YoshiSkittlez

Fancy quits.

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My jokes aside, good to know. Not sure where Fancy would fall in that hierarchy.

@Faded Memory that kind of symbiosis seems fine to me. Fancy helps everyone he can, in his ever strange ways.

[Blitz]

Like Yoshi said, I like the idea of having a kind of council to report to.

I also see how that would be against Fancy's character. But that doesn't mean Fancy couldn't have asked to have more leeway on reporting in—acting more like an icognito trump card that the Wolves don't know about. Because, having timely reports would be more likely to draw attention just because of how organized it is.

EDIT: about to start working on Knox's intro

[Fading Memory]

@Blitz

I like that, having him be more autonomous than normal members due to his nature and rather unique skills. Works for me.

[Blitz]

Also, if y'all don't mind sharing, what time zones do y'all reside in? Just curious, if we ever need to work out good times for collaborating.

I'm in CST (or I guess CDT now because it's Daylight Savings Time now), also sometimes in EST (or EDT). So, I think, I flicker between UTC-6, -5, and -4 depending on the time of year? Lol

[Fading Memory]

I reside in the US Eastern Standard Time Zone. I could do the google effort to translate that into universal but I'm mildly lazy at the moment.

[Blitz]

Word. I think we all get it, haha. I'm just OCD.

Posted for Knox. Sorry, Yoshi, I stole your header format. Hope ya don't mind, heh.

EDIT: also, my post was another bit of a nod at the old installment, heh (but not by much!). I promise I can also be original lmao

[Fading Memory]

So uh. I've seen many different styles of roleplaying on the guild. Will this one lean more towards collaborations as the standard, or will it lean more towards just...posting and responding in a separate post? I just don't wanna breech protocol if I suddenly decide to throw a character at someone's post. @Blitz

[Aalakrys]

I am also Eastern Standard USA, but~ I’m nocturnal, so might as well be in South Korea again. Haha. I’m usually up from 3 pm till 5 am. But Monday thru Wednesday is luck of the draw as to how busy I am at work. I actually have a few more tickets to do before I can really hop on here... but my head is all brain mush because today has been exhausting Dx

[YoshiSkittlez]

I'm PST :) Good ol' Portland Oregon!

As far as posting protocol, I myself like collaborations because it's a big chunk of time all done at once and is good for progression. But that's just me. It's what I got used to. So I might ask if someone would want to collab with me, but I'm also very capable of solo posts. So really, I say it's up to you guys!