The Political Thread

[Dolerman]

@SleepingSilence

Number 3.

Cases of trolls that you brought up that I didnt speak up about. When did this happenen? Im only hearing about these 'trolls' right now, and because you arent giving me a time frame or any names it feels another thing you are confused about. The implication is that Im okay with these 'trolls' being jailed when I literally just said in my last post I dont agree with Dankulas charge. You're not paying attention.

4. I feel like saying 'in my mind' is a little snide, I will counter with, Ian Miles Cheong used to be left wing 'in your mind'. Because it technically isnt a lie.

[SleepingSilence]

@Dynamo Frokane So if I can prove your wrong to literally anyone, that we already covered trolls being jailed by the UK as a topic before during conversation. Go to your old political page 261.

So I'll wait for -your- correction. In the meantime. ;D

Facts don't care about your feelings. And it's a fact. You think that. And no, that's not equal because it isn't even accurate. "I think he's not right wing" would actually be correctly quoting my assumption. Just like mine was correctly quoting yours.

[Dolerman]

@SleepingSilence
And facts don't care about yours, Ian Miles Cheong is former anti GG/Anti SJW and then changed his mind in 2015 complete with apologies and then started writing for a right wing websites such ash Heatstreet and the Daily Sun. Your personal feelings about being effected by gamergate don't change this.

He even refers to himself as an SJW in clear past tense, but you don't follow him so I can see why that'd miss you.

And I was discussing Lauren Southern and the UK ban list on page 261, not some random 'trolls'. Don't let your feelings stop you from being specific, lets stick to the facts.

[SleepingSilence]

@Dynamo Frokane
Yes. He certainly did say he "changed his mind." But if you were remotely paying attention to this conversation. I already stated I take that with a grain of salt. You can't actually say for a fact, what positions he holds because I've never seen him directly state his party.

Also, love that your basically stating. SJW is synonymous with left wing ideology specifically. He doesn't even say "I used to be left wing." And I've never seen him go "Yeah, I'm a Conservative. Republican. Alt-Right Commie." Whatever. Anyone who isn't trying to argue, will get the point.

I mentioned trolls to you multiple times. That was one of them. You were incorrect, and that we DID talk about them before. And you did nothing rebuking the idea/stories presented there.



Just because you keep purposely ignoring it, doesn't change the fact that I made this point to you before.

[Dolerman]

You can't actually say for a fact, what positions he holds because I've never seen him directly state his party.

@SleepingSilence

Trump is "Republican" in party only. People call themselves many things, and people call people many things. Doesn't make it a true statement.

@SleepingSilence

Yeah I don't think anything more needs to be said here.

And you can be something without directly calling yourself it. Do you think Tim Wise ever calls himself an SJW?

And I'm saying I didn't discuss trolls with you on page 261 anyone reading can clearly see I'm talking about Lauren Southern and I don't consider her to be a troll. You mentioning the world trolls doesn't mean that I was discussing them. But please keep screenshotting your posts to try and describe my talking points, really honest stuff here.

[SleepingSilence]

Yeah I don't think anything more needs to be said here.

@Dynamo Frokane

>*erroneously implying I'm a hypocrite for suggesting Donald Trump is Republican in name only. While saying you need evidence for this to suggest it.*

Yeah, you got it. Allow me to merely refute that single point. And I think we can squash this before it goes on any further...

Hmm. That certainly is queer. What could I possibly have referred to by "IN PARTY ONLY." If only unlike Ian Miles Cheong, I had clear evidence backing that Trump has put his backing/name into the Republican party somehow...when you can't do the same for Ian or you would've done so already. Man oh, man what a-



Oh that's right, the entire 2016 election.

[skidcrow]

That certainly is queer.

@SleepingSilence

That's racist.

[Dion]

man this thread became something else real quick

i'm out cya have fun

[POOHEAD189]

Let's rein it back into an actual civil discussion.

[mickilennial]

I don't think civil is in the cards. Anyway, here's something that's going on in my neck of the woods. It's pretty interesting, though I do not know how to feel about it due to some dubious claims on Thanedar's ethics.

Shri Thanedar leads Democrats in latest Michigan governor's race poll

The latest poll on the race for the Democratic nomination for governor puts Shri Thanedar ahead of Gretchen Whitmer by about three points — 29.6 percent to 26.3 percent. Abdul El-Sayed polled at 6.6 percent, while Bill Cobbs was at 2.5 percent.

Though the Detroit Regional Chamber gubernatorial poll put Thanedar ahead, it's worth noting that it found 34.5 percent of the 400 Democratic voters it polled undecided.

The poll suggests that a series of controversies and attacks from El-Sayed's camp didn't have much of an impact. That includes an article in The Intercept that questioned whether Thanedar is a true progressive.

Prior to that, polls put Thanedar slightly ahead of Whitmer, or vice versa. El-Sayed's polling numbers remain about the same. RELATED Poll shows gov candidates Thanedar and Whitmer neck and neck in Dem primary race. However, the polling was conducted from April 20 to April 22, three days before a story a widely read story about Thanedar abandoning dogs and monkeys at a former pharmaceutical facility he owned. The animals were rescued from the facility after Thanedar's company foreclosed in 2010.

Thanedar is a millionaire who is largely self-funding his campaign and running on a progressive platform. He's offering proposals like legalizing pot and using the money to help fix the roads, implementing a $15 per hour minimum wage, implementing universal health care, eliminating tax subsidies for the rich, and banning for-profit charter schools. He's refusing to take corporate cash to fund his campaign, as is El-Sayed.

El-Sayed supports similar policies, and his campaign bills him as the race's "real progressive." El-Sayed came out of Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan's administration and picked up endorsements from several progressive groups, like Our Revolution.

Whitmer, the former Michigan Senate minority leader, is seen as the establishment candidate. She's received endorsements from all major unions, and notes that while she is accepting corporate cash, most of her money comes from small donations.

Voters will choose a Democratic candidate on Aug. 7.

[mdk]

I don't think civil is in the cards. Anyway, here's something that's going on in my neck of the woods. It's pretty interesting, though I do not know how to feel about it due to some dubious claims on Thanedar's ethics.

Shri Thanedar leads Democrats in latest Michigan governor's race poll

The latest poll on the race for the Democratic nomination for governor puts Shri Thanedar ahead of Gretchen Whitmer by about three points — 29.6 percent to 26.3 percent. Abdul El-Sayed polled at 6.6 percent, while Bill Cobbs was at 2.5 percent.

Though the Detroit Regional Chamber gubernatorial poll put Thanedar ahead, it's worth noting that it found 34.5 percent of the 400 Democratic voters it polled undecided.

The poll suggests that a series of controversies and attacks from El-Sayed's camp didn't have much of an impact. That includes an article in The Intercept that questioned whether Thanedar is a true progressive.

Prior to that, polls put Thanedar slightly ahead of Whitmer, or vice versa. El-Sayed's polling numbers remain about the same. RELATED Poll shows gov candidates Thanedar and Whitmer neck and neck in Dem primary race. However, the polling was conducted from April 20 to April 22, three days before a story a widely read story about Thanedar abandoning dogs and monkeys at a former pharmaceutical facility he owned. The animals were rescued from the facility after Thanedar's company foreclosed in 2010.

Thanedar is a millionaire who is largely self-funding his campaign and running on a progressive platform. He's offering proposals like legalizing pot and using the money to help fix the roads, implementing a $15 per hour minimum wage, implementing universal health care, eliminating tax subsidies for the rich, and banning for-profit charter schools. He's refusing to take corporate cash to fund his campaign, as is El-Sayed.

El-Sayed supports similar policies, and his campaign bills him as the race's "real progressive." El-Sayed came out of Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan's administration and picked up endorsements from several progressive groups, like Our Revolution.

Whitmer, the former Michigan Senate minority leader, is seen as the establishment candidate. She's received endorsements from all major unions, and notes that while she is accepting corporate cash, most of her money comes from small donations.

Voters will choose a Democratic candidate on Aug. 7.

@Inkarnate

Oh gosh, polls have El-Sayed ahead? Pack it in, it's over.

I don't really pay attention to out-of-state primaries. How's Michigan handling the economics question? Would be interested to get a manufacturing-heavy/NAFTA-affected democrat take on the issue.

[SleepingSilence]

Only reminds me of the "blue wave" prediction. That didn't actually happen. Nobody made such a stink every single time a republican won in Obama's election. I was kind of embarrassed when people were making such a big deal over twitter and other media sites about it.

This isn't new or particularly interesting to me. It's another day in everyday politic land. My two cents on the subject anyway.

[mickilennial]

Oh gosh, polls have El-Sayed ahead? Pack it in, it's over.

I don't really pay attention to out-of-state primaries. How's Michigan handling the economics question? Would be interested to get a manufacturing-heavy/NAFTA-affected democrat take on the issue.

@mdk

I think people are pretty sick of who has been handling our economic sector. The whole Nestle deal opened a lot of people’s eyes who were on the fence or apathetic in general, and Snyder and other local conservative leaders have the perspective of “not giving a shit” to the fullest. Though, there’s a lot of people who still vote within the party as rural parts of Michigan can pretty much unrecognizable from the deep south. But that goes without saying I think.

At the very least we can see that things are being shook up here.

[PrinceAlexus]

Only reminds me of the "blue wave" prediction. That didn't actually happen. Nobody made such a stink every single time a republican won in Obama's election. I was kind of embarrassed when people were making such a big deal over twitter and other media sites about it.

This isn't new or particularly interesting to me. It's another day in everyday politic land. My two cents on the subject anyway.

@SleepingSilence

Because being in power you are to blame. Bad things always happen and you always get baggage. That's why you lose things because impossible to please everyone.

If your not in power, you can say all the stuff you like, comment freely. But your not also having to put into practice, and your hand is more free..

[Dolerman]

Why cant we all be centrists like this guy?

[POOHEAD189]

So apparently the Senate might restore net neutrality.

[mdk]

So apparently the Senate might restore net neutrality.

@POOHEAD189

Rule #1: the senate never does anything useful

Therefore, if they restore net neutrality, then NN must be irrelevant. Is.... is that right?

[POOHEAD189]

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Rule #1: the senate never does anything useful

Therefore, if they restore net neutrality, then NN must be irrelevant. Is.... is that right?

@mdk

I'm pretty certain they do some things right sometimes.

[POOHEAD189]

7 dead in an Australian Mass shooting, it looks like.
express.co.uk/news/world/958118/Austr…

[PrinceAlexus]

7 dead in an Australian Mass shooting, it looks like.
express.co.uk/news/world/958118/Austr…

@POOHEAD189

Well the whole blame lax gun laws debate that seems to arise every time is moot in this case. They have a extremely strict laws.

I'm guessing a illegal firearm involved?

Sad, but people will find a way however evil there intentions.