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In regards to Evvie swinging her sword diwn while running then suddenly defying logic and stopping the swung to twist to lessen or avoid the counter.
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Hm? Werent those written as two seperate actions? Swing, miss, then launch an upwards-leftwards swing from the ground while twisting and moving her leg - thats what i think ImportantNobody meant.
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If that is what he meant that is not how I read it. Evvie knows the attack coming and is reacting but completelt ignoring the action of prior post in which the sword is already desending.
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Vordak said Swing, miss, then launch an upwards-leftwards swing from the ground while twisting and moving her leg - thats what i think ImportantNobody meant.

Sorry Skall, but this is how I read it too.
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I think the problem is that some significant momentum has dissipated between the two posts.

Running forward and swinging downwards is fine, noting that her attack failed because of the roll also, but it would difficult to correct yourself after such a heavy strike downwards, because of the blades intended striking pattern from before. (Cutting down and through the body, suggest a -lot- of strength and force was used.) When an attack like that misses its usually pretty debilitating for a short period. Though the sword being made out of flame... and presumably weightless, would probably limit this.

Evvie is fast, so she could in theory twist around to swing her sword from its downward position quick enough that she could match the elf, if only because he used quite an excessive move himself (Rolling.)

If I had to judge, I'd expect the first dagger to at least score a grazing wound, because its target is moving significantly, the second dagger would have to contend with its owner being chopped at with a sword. Considering the proximity though, the sword would probably be quite difficult to use. That's just my opinion however, and I've already shown I'm not much better with sword-play. I prefer punching things.
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Skallagrim said
If that is what he meant that is not how I read it. Evvie knows the attack coming and is reacting but completelt ignoring the action of prior post in which the sword is already desending.


Honestly I was going to agree, but Vordak is right (his has uncanny sight into these things). She missed and is making a new move from what I can see. How she corrected herself so quickly is another story.

But what the hell do we know.
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I think the problem is that some significant momentum has dissipated between the two posts. Running forward and swinging downwards is fine, noting that her attack failed because of the roll also, but it would difficult to correct yourself after such a heavy strike downwards, because of the blades intended striking pattern from before. (Cutting down and through the body, suggest a -lot- of strength and force was used.) When an attack like that misses its usually pretty debilitating for a short period. Though the sword being made out of flame... and presumably weightless, would probably limit this.Evvie is fast, so she could in theory twist around to swing her sword from its downward position quick enough that she could match the elf, if only because he used quite an excessive move himself (Rolling.) If I had to judge, I'd expect the first dagger to at least score a grazing wound, because its target is moving significantly, the second dagger would have to contend with its owner being chopped at with a sword. Considering the proximity though, the sword would probably be quite difficult to use. That's just my opinion however, and I've already shown I'm not much better with sword-play. I prefer punching things.


That sword was made of actual metal or something that move would have been impossible.
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That sword was made of actual metal or something that move would have been impossible.


Difficult, I mean, Evvie does still have superhuman strength.
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Difficult, I mean, Evvie does still have superhuman strength.


That's what makes these kind of judgment calls difficult. But think about how much force could be put into a swing while on one leg without falling on your arse, not a whole lot of cutting power.

Then again it is fire so it hardly needs much velocity to do damage.
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The point is it is a simultaneous action if she missed and I am behind her, Evvie cannot avoid both blows. Her knee cannot lift and be out of the way because it would mod my attack in a way that voids my post which states I struck her behind the knee. There is no way to avoid that hit unless you are saying Imps post completely voids that action.

Coming up out of the roll a scant 24 inches from where he was originally, the ice covered blade plunged deep into the back of the girl’s left leg, just above the knee with such force that it might puncture through just above the kneecap in a spray of blood and flesh.

The second blade, rising to shank the girl in the lower back, just above her pelvis on the left side, most likely puncturing the left kidney, some parts of the jejunum, and ileum as well, all the while the elf was cackling insanely.


If you are saying she can turn and be ready to avoid that blow it doesnt make sense because then she would turn into the other dagger puncturing her in the abdomen, Again voiding the post stating the hit and where they would land. By logic if she is not avoiding the second hit, the one to her lower back it would land on her center right as she turned around her upper body as is stated.

...but she wasn't going to let him just attack her without receiving damage of his own. She twisted around as fast as she was able with her upper body, her left leg trying to retreat away from the incoming blade by bending up and back while at the same time jerking her left arm backwards to twist her blade over to him and hopefully cut him in two,


She doesn't acknowledge the hit as it would happen if she turned as she doesn't avoid it. But also she is turning her upper body, but if her left leg is retreating up and back where as the post specifically she only turned her upper body. How the hell does that work? The action it self is inconsistent with body mechanics. But if you lot say she can do it she can do it. I will have to then complete the gutting of the dragon girl because she does not deny the hit and will have to accept where I place it since she didn't acknowledge a targeted area.
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The point is it is a simultaneous action if she missed and I am behind he, Evvie cannot avoid both blows. Her knee cannot lift and be out of the way because it would mod my attack in a way that voids my post which states I struck her behind the knee. There is no way to avoid that hit unless you are saying Imps post completely voids that action.


And Nobody admitted that if Dynoz continued his move, she'll get hit by the attack. Her attack was basically more of an attempt to attack him simultaneously with him attack her, not interrupting. The attack on the knee most likely hit her, but, probably not in right in the middle of the knee as intended.
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It's true that Important should have still stated what effect Skallagrim's attacks had on her, even if they missed entirely. There's no reason to give Skallagrim chance to change all of his post, because Skallagrim didn't really state the elf would do anything different if she did try and move.
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What really pisses me off is I gave Imp a soft ball to finish this fight in a three paragraph post, making Evvie look like a rock star. Instead I get a convoluted and messy defense that leaves her open to a death blow that will be unavoidable based on how she turns. Does no one see the opening I gave Imp?
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What really pisses me off is I gave Imp a soft ball to finish this fight in a three paragraph post, making Evvie look like a rock star. Instead I get a convoluted and messy defense that leaves her open to a death blow that will be unavoidable based on how she turns. Does no one see the opening I gave Imp?


I think the only important truth here is if Imp saw it.

Evidently not.

:K

Guess it wont help that snar might be walking over there.
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In related news, full Dragon Evvie.
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We will save your brain for desert.

I mean necromancy.
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Her fire isn't made of metal. With her power she can make it a solid flame. Therefore, I didn't expect it to weight any more then a flame and would be easier to move again in her desired way, especially with her strength and speed. She swung all the way downward with her miss, all the while eyes tracking him, so as soon as she could she started to swing his way to try to hit him before he could completely get away with his attack. She knew there was no way to intercept his attack in time, which is why your guy can still do damage in his post, but she believes she can hit him before he'd be able to both attack and get away. It's not unreasonable (in my opinion) that she could get one attack out before he could attack and retreat completely out of her range again. You have to remember that she's really fast as well.

As for changing the positioning of his attacks hitting her, she is bending her knee up and away but that doesn't mean your guy can't just do the minor adjustments to move in just a bit closer to keep his slash going as planned. Her twisting would change that blow to more of a frontal blow, but she needed to twist a bit to get into a better position where she could attack. She's willing to deal with the consequences if she's able to get her attack in.

Ah, and she might fall onto her butt with this position she's in, as previously mentioned with her being unstable.

EDIT: Although if this only makes sense to me I can edit it
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I'm just going to ask now, is there anyone even considering entering Mystique to accost/talk to the Clockwork Man? Otherwise I'll post today and have him leave the area, for now at least.
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I'm just going to ask now, is there anyone even considering entering Mystique to accost/talk to the Clockwork Man? Otherwise I'll post today and have him leave the area, for now at least.


I can't at least.
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