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I LOVE THAT!! It's a really good dichotomy! The balance of bugs and plants clashing and relying on each other plays in perfectly to the villain and hero eventually falling for each other hehehe
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I LOVE THAT!! It's a really good dichotomy! The balance of bugs and plants clashing and relying on each other plays in perfectly to the villain and hero eventually falling for each other hehehe


Thank you! I'm very proud of it. He is my poor, secretly anxious son. I'm currently thinking about Superhero names. He is very beetle themed, so I though about just calling him "The Beetle", but that feels a little cheesy.
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I am currently working on a character sheet for him, but I have a ballroom dance class in thirty minutes that will keep me busy for a few hours.
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@JewelSerket No worries! Take your time, and just a few thoughts for names, maybe you could pull from different types of beetles, such as long horn, hercules, jewel, scarab, or even firefly. Maybe something like Captain Herc, The Jeweled Soldier, or Fireflier!
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@Dragonfly 9 You can still try out! This isn't fcfs, it's who I feel is going to offer the most substance for story and character interaction! Tell me your ideas :D


Aight! :D Right now, I have two:

1. Minotaur Man! :D Could be that Jewel's character is a traditional gentleman, while Minotaur guy is (initially) the more traditional version of toxic masculinity. Or, at least, he seems to be a toxic jerk. In reality, he's more of a classic tsundere type; harsh and aggressive on the outside, but kind and a bit of a classic romantic on the inside. Could be that he was treated as "weak" by his family/the people around him, and tried to "toughen up" and "be a man" in order to compensate for that.

I have another, but I wanna see what you think of this one first. If it's too heavy for this, that's okay! I just often get a bit too into character depth while fleshing out my characters. :')
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@Dragonfly 9 Oh man, I love me a good, "they were treated as an animal/object and need to figure out how to be a person" character arc, Li would definitely help with that reintegration and see the person this guy is beyond the animal he was made to be...Li would also want to punch whoever treated this guy so horribly, but that's probably not the best idea

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@Dragonfly 9 Oh man, I love me a good, "they were treated as an animal/object and need to figure out how to be a person" character arc, Li would definitely help with that reintegration and see the person this guy is beyond the animal he was made to be...Li would also want to punch whoever treated this guy so horribly, but that's probably not the best idea

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Aight! :)

So, I think Minotaur guy was born in Ancient Greece as, like, apart of an ancient Minotaur race(the myth was either inaccurate or solely focused on just one Minotaur, with the writer not knowing that others existed). The guy then got kidnapped by a time traveling scientist, who tried to study and treated him like an animal overall. He escaped somehow, taught himself how to read, write, and speak English, and became a villain in the city's eyes by trying to steal food from one of their stores(because he still didn't know how money worked). He then later embraced this role after a bit when he realized that that was probably the only role people would respect/treat him like a person in. At that point, Minotaur guy had fallen in love with all aspects of theater, so he took a page from its book, becoming a fearsome, loud and domineering villain, who just LOVEDDDDD to be EVILLLLL!!!

Beneath that, though, Minotaur guy is more of a soft spoken, socially awkward guy who thinks he'll never be loved as he is(and has always been very jealous of Hero Guy(or whichever character fills that hero role) for him being popular and loved by the city).
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@Dragonfly 9 Oh I love him. What a fine fellow.
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Thank you! :D
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Hmmmmmm 🤔

I love him and he sounds like such a good boy, I just don't know how well I'm connecting

For one thing, I've never been crazy about casual time travel stories/usage. When I do time travel plots/elements, I typically have a lot of structure and rule to it, and even then it always gets complicated, so I usually try to avoid it 🫤
As it stands in this world, I'd rather not deal with it, simply because the story is so focused on the love story and character relations, it feels too messy to get into time travel ethics, if that makes sense?

Another point is I don't really see there being separate races/species in this world except maybe in the possibility of alien races (in the case of Superman types)? Mainly there's humans, and "metahumans" but metahuman is just a lable given to people who have these strange genetics and in the end they're still human. I don't see the meta gene being structured or consistent enough to be passed directly in family lines, and definitely not repetitive enough to create a whole new race 🫠

And lastly, I'm not sure if the his reasoning for becoming "evil" quite vibes with the structure of the story? It feels a lot like he kinda just stumbled into the villain life and doesn't have a true connection to it? And I'm looking for a villain who has a strong rise to villainy, and a solid reasoning and defined goal, if that makes sense??

Again!! I love him a lot! He's a really good character and sounds like a really fun guy to interact with, I just don't know if he fits the role?
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Hmmmmmm 🤔

I love him and he sounds like such a good boy, I just don't know how well I'm connecting

For one thing, I've never been crazy about casual time travel stories/usage. When I do time travel plots/elements, I typically have a lot of structure and rule to it, and even then it always gets complicated, so I usually try to avoid it 🫤
As it stands in this world, I'd rather not deal with it, simply because the story is so focused on the love story and character relations, it feels too messy to get into time travel ethics, if that makes sense?

Another point is I don't really see there being separate races/species in this world except maybe in the possibility of alien races (in the case of Superman types)? Mainly there's humans, and "metahumans" but metahuman is just a lable given to people who have these strange genetics and in the end they're still human. I don't see the meta gene being structured or consistent enough to be passed directly in family lines, and definitely not repetitive enough to create a whole new race 🫠

And lastly, I'm not sure if the his reasoning for becoming "evil" quite vibes with the structure of the story? It feels a lot like he kinda just stumbled into the villain life and doesn't have a true connection to it? And I'm looking for a villain who has a strong rise to villainy, and a solid reasoning and defined goal, if that makes sense??

Again!! I love him a lot! He's a really good character and sounds like a really fun guy to interact with, I just don't know if he fits the role?


Yeah, that's totally fair! I don't think he fits the role as well, honestly! :') I just created and tossed him into the ring, in order to see if he would fit the role! Now that I know he doesn't, though, I'll probably leave it up to Crimson and/or some other person to fit it with their potential character idea. Thank you for humoring me, though! :D
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So I may have gotten a bit excited with him. Even if I don't end up using him here, I'm glad to have sat down and made him. My buggy boy!

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Ok, finally got my thoughts in order and have a moment to type

@JewelSerket I love him, and he's so well constructed. He has a very unique origin story, and I love the body horror aspect of it. You don't see body horror too often, especially for heroes, and I love how scientific it is? Like, with the bugs eating the fat? Idk, it feels really grounded and well thought out! I'll definitely be keeping you and him in consideration for the role! Same as with Crimson, I wanna wait and see what other bites I might get.

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Right now I'm mostly just unsure how I feel about the transition from civilization to hero/villain? I'm really looking for something deep, powerful, interesting. Something characteristically and morally defining! I dunno if I'm explaining it right...
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@Baphomini Thank you! I was very proud of his "top surgery". I'm glad you enjoy him!

I think I'm understanding, but could you give an example?
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Yes, an example pls.
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Like, something personal and life altering that connects them to their decision to take up the role that they did. More than "Well I have these powers," or "I got rejected."

Consider if Professor Oak was acting as a villain as a means of protecting the earth and environment. Yes, in the eyes of society, he is "evil" but the fact is, he's a hero in his own eyes.

That's always the mark of a good villain! A villain shouldn't be a villain for the sake of being evil, but for a cause that is dear to their heart. They're fighting for something, something important to them that they aren't willing to abandon even at the cost of the lives of others or even themself.

The same can be said for a hero! They shouldn't be a hero just for the sake of being a hero. They should have something that drives them. Maybe the fire chief died, or was injured in one of the fires and the police doing nothing about it was a personal sting. Even heroes can be driven by revenge! Maybe the bugs want Cricket to protect people because humans play a big role in bug survival from planting flowers that bees pollinate, to leaving food for ants and other species, to their corpses being consumed by worms and the like! There's plenty of ways to go with it!
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@Baphomini Awesome. Lemme do a little reworking. Thank you!
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Like, something personal and life altering that connects them to their decision to take up the role that they did. More than "Well I have these powers," or "I got rejected."

Consider if Professor Oak was acting as a villain as a means of protecting the earth and environment. Yes, in the eyes of society, he is "evil" but the fact is, he's a hero in his own eyes.


His villian alias is Poison Oak. I appreciate the Pokémon reference though. :P

His motivation being to protect the earth and environment was my intention, but Pine is a hypocrite sometimes. 😬 I can make that clearer!
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@Baphomini I just finished cleaning him up a little. I edited the original post. The only real edits, save for some clean up, are the last five paragraphs of his backstory. Have I gotten a little closer to the mark?
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I added some stuff to mine too. Hope it helps!
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