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Bud, I don't know who told you that you can just leave and come back, but it doesn't work that way. You can take some courses while in active duty, sure, but you can't just leave and then return after school. You'll be able to leave AFTER your contract is done, sure, but you don't keep going back and forth.
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Yes, I realize that, but I'm fully confident in my abilities and I doubt I'll develop any physical issues. I've had no physical or mental issues for the past 19 years. And due to being in JROTC for four semesters, I'm already guaranteed a bump in rank. I'll be starting as an E3 rather than an E1.


I envy you.. I'll only be an E-2...
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I envy you.. I'll only be an E-2...


Good thing it doesn't work like that.

Also, it's a bit difficult to post something constructive with Link that isn't filler.
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Mogtaki said
Good thing it doesn't like that.Also, it's a bit difficult to post something constructive with Link that isn't filler.


Also if you want to become an officer Kalamadea , have you considered the Green to Gold Active Duty option?

Yeah Link is kind of useless without his dark magic lol. Maybe some type of magical creature in the area happens to give him a magical boost? We can talk a bit more over pm if you would like.
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Sure, PM would be good since I really don't want to feel like I'm holding everyone back (considering it's been 2 weeks since the last post, probably going on 3 despite me not having much to do just now).
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Mogtaki said
Good thing it doesn't work like that.Also, it's a bit difficult to post something constructive with Link that isn't filler.


That's where you're wrong. It does work like that, because I know someone who was bumped up to an E3 because of JROTC.

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Also if you want to become an officer Kalamadea , have you considered the Green to Gold Active Duty option?Yeah Link is kind of useless without his dark magic lol. Maybe some type of magical creature in the area happens to give him a magical boost? We can talk a bit more over pm if you would like.


If I don't need to pay for college, it would be an option for me. I'll have to ask the recruiter about that when I get a chance to speak to one. I can't afford to have to pay for college, and I'd rather not deal with all the paperwork for scholarships.
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More what Vena said about it and why it doesn't work to go in, go out, then go in again.
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lol @ not wanting to deal with "paperwork" for scholarships. Gun up, kid. Free money is the best money, even if you have to put effort into it. It's a much better option than trying to sign student loans. If you can't afford to pay for school, have you tried applying for your FAFSA to see if you can't get finaid anywhere? If not, the military is a good choice, they'll sign you on, send you to school and keep you for however much you owe em for school. My friend has a 6-year contract atm.

As far as JROTC out of high school doing something for you, I'm afraid it doesn't do much I think. The only time i've heard of a "rank boost" from ROTC aka college program. The only thing 4 yrs of JROTC does for you is net you a possible scholarship from the program and eligibility to the ROTC program in whatever college you go to (if they have one). Only thing with the college program is that once you're in it, you're basically signing on to the military and you'll get put in after you graduate as an officer iirc (don't quote me on this part, i know for a fact that you have to join the military if you are in ROTC.)

edit: ey the military thing isn't entierly a scam. They're actually being picky about who gets to join since they've been cutting back. They will find any reason to drop you or not let you come back in which is why Vena is right. Not a smart deal to try and hop over the white line, y'know? And maybe they might not let you go to school then make you enlist...but i do know that there are soldiers in my uni who are there to get a degree, then enlist as an officer. Last i heard was you actually had to have your paper before they'd give you the rank.

Source: did jrotc in high school and friend's dad is a recruiter
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Well, as I said, a friend of mine who graduated a couple years ago did get a rank boost for having four semesters. He got bumped up to an E3 in the Navy because of it. I did score really high on the ASVAB (I got a 90) so I'm sure my chances are pretty good for completing the college program if it comes to that.

But if I can sign on and then do school first, that may be the best option for me.
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It's either before or after, not both.
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heres a link http://www.goarmy.com/reserve/benefits/education.html

i think my friend went in as reserve, did his college, and after graduating he'll go active duty and "pay back" what he owes to the military for however long he went...or something. not sure if the navy does the same thing though @~@
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"Paying back" = any college loan, really. It just really doesn't work as a skip on loans since you're paying it back anyway.
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Mog, considering Lenaya's ties with it and her saying there's still a chance of it, I think that means Vena wasn't entirely correct. Granted, with the cutbacks there's not a very big chance, but it's still there if attending college as reserve doesn't work out for some reason.

Anyway, I'd be very surprised if the Navy doesn't do it. The branches all have the same benefits.
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I'm still wondering why we're still talking about this.

You realise she said the guy has to pay it back in their way? It's not free, dude. They give you a loan, you pay back the loan.
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Yes, but it's not paid back with money, it's paid back with military service, which I don't mind.

Anyway, I'll have to ask the recruiter about it when I get a chance to speak with one.
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It's the same as what we do for people on benefits here; send them to work for less with a price. Getting paid a piddly $15'000 a year compared to a garbage man's $34'000 a year is about it.

You're best NOT asking a recruiter and actually asking someone who's got experience with it, like on an army orientated forum. Recruiters tend to leave things out; after all, they are trying to sign people up to work for the Government. They have a recruitment quota to fill. It's a sacrifice they're willing to make, at least soldiers on forums with former experience can give you answers.
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Its better than paying back loans that have collected interest every month @~@ but i've got finaid to help me now so i'm good.

butya im not sure how to post. just have nayrin freak out about godzilla attacking us?
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Come to Scotland to study and be paid $2000 for being a US citizen. Don't ask how that works, just uhh... yeah...

Maybe give me something to go about because poor Link can't do a damn thing lol
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Kalamadea said
Well, as I said, a friend of mine who graduated a couple years ago did get a rank boost for having four semesters. He got bumped up to an E3 in the Navy because of it. I did score really high on the ASVAB (I got a 90) so I'm sure my chances are pretty good for completing the college program if it comes to that.But if I can sign on and then do school first, that may be the best option for me.


Having a high ASVAB doesn't do much for you other than give you options for choosing an MOS. Besides the ASVAB score overall doesn't matter, its the composite scores that do. I got an 81, but 2/3 of my composite scores were incredibly high, and the other 1/3 was still high enough that there was technically only like one MOS that I couldn't do.

Also you have to be careful comparing ranks between branches, they all work differently. You can become an E-3 right into basic with some JROTC classes however, I'm not sure how many you are required to have, but it can happen.
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Well, I already know what info to share and what to hold back. My AI (that's Army Instructor, not Artificial Intelligence, lol), who used to be a recruiter himself, has told me what I can get away with holding back. Though, really, I only have one thing: the fact that I used to take medication for ADHD. If I were to share that, there's no doubt of my career being severely hampered. If I'm to have any chance of advancement and a wide choice of MOS's, I'm going to have to leave that out.
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