New game: be longer winded than Jorick

[andromedene]

The Nexerus said
I doubt that's how it went down. It seems unlikely that the Mods would ever get involved in something so silly, Nurgle.

So silly as religion?

[Jster]

Off topic has a sticky about "What songs should I play on guitar?"

So something weird happened at least there.

[The Nexerus]

ImANargleHunter said
So silly as

?

I don't understand what we're talking about now.

[BrobyDDark]

Why is this a sticky now?

[Doivid]

lol! awesome.

[mdk]

If it's possible for threads to get accidentally stickied, I wonder if it's possible for me to accidentally get promoted to moderator.

[BrobyDDark]

mdk said
If it's possible for threads to get accidentally stickied, I wonder if it's possible for me to accidentally get promoted to moderator.

No one would accidentally make you moderator. Even the universe knows that's a bad idea.

[mdk]

BrobyDDark said
No one would accidentally make you moderator. Even the universe knows that's a bad idea.

I'm much better behaved when presented with unlimited and unchecked power.

[Kaga]

mdk said
If it's possible for threads to get accidentally stickied, I wonder if it's possible for me to accidentally get promoted to moderator.

I suppose it's not impossible.

I remember every once in a while some random member would become an admin on oldGuild.

[RusalkaRabbit]

mdk said
I'm much better behaved when presented with unlimited and unchecked power.

That's not suspicious at all. Nope.

[CidTheKid]

ImANargleHunter said
What if the post was literally never ending? Could something be considered long winded if you can't physically finish it?

Yes.

[Tempest]

The Nexerus said
I doubt that's how it went down. It seems unlikely that the Mods would ever get involved in something so silly, Nurgle.

You apparently have not seen the silliness Mahz sometimes indulges in, then.

[Hank]

Jorick said
This is a horrible game idea. Here, let me outline why that is, just to make sure you understand.First of all, how exactly do you measure how long winded someone is? Just typing a long post does not in and of itself make one long winded. Some topics require the fullness of a long explanation for one to get their thoughts and opinions out there. For instance, if the topic at hand is anything about religion, politics, or other other hot button issues, I would posit that longer pieces of speech are expected on the matter since there are so many angles to cover. Is one truly long winded in such circumstances? Say a single paragraph is the expectation for an average, non-controversial topic, but the average expectation for a post on religion is more like five paragraphs. Making a six paragraph long post in a religion thread would be considered long winded by those who do not understand the environment or are not used to it, but it would fall within standard deviation of an average post length, so would it in fact be long winded? I would say no, but the fact that others might say yes leads me to my second point.The entire premise is far too subjective to make a game, something that has winners and losers, out of it. Some think anything more than a single line of text is long winded. Some think a fifteen paragraph post is perfectly fine. Some people think being long winded is more about the actual thoughts you're presenting versus the time it takes to explain them, such that explaining a complex issue in three paragraphs is not actually long winded whilst expanding "I like cookies" into a four sentence explanation would indeed be long winded. Once you set up some way to measure the length of one's wind, perhaps by direct comparison to a post of my own creation such as Captain Jordan suggested, the problem then becomes judgment. Who would be rendering such judgment? You? Pfft, a single judge is no solid basis for deciding the winner of a game or contest, and you're biased by association with me. A panel of others to judge? Similar problems present themselves, potential biases and uncertainty of their subjective measure of how long winded someone is, plus the whole rigamarole of finding people who would actually want to bother to take the time to do such judging. Public voting? Good fucking luck getting that to work out in any reasonable way, because public voting is notoriously awful.Let's play pretend though, to continue the premise. Let's say you decide how exactly to measure how long winded someone is, which I doubt you can do, and then you figure out a reasonable way to render judgment, which I also doubt is feasible, how exactly would you keep things on a level playing field for the competitors? Having a post of my own for others to compare their nonsense to would be utterly unfair, for instance, because they could type whatever nonsense they felt like until their character/word/paragraph count was higher. Giving just a theme and telling people to get typing would also be problematic, because of that whole subjectivity thing. Say you gave the topic of gay marriage and told people to get on it. Someone might write a five page essay in which they delve into complex socioeconomic issues, whereas I write a five page essay that could be boiled down into "I support gay marriage and also I like girl on girl porn a lot," each with the same exact number of paragraphs and so forth, who would be the winner there? Logically I would have to be the winner because I took equal time to say less, and the core of being long winded is taking far too much time to say something, but I would have just rambled about semi-related nonsense while the other person actually put work into it. You could try maybe giving a specific argument with specific points that can be included along with nothing else, but then that would be stupidly limiting and ruin everything. There's just no good way to make sure everyone is on equal footing, thus the entire game/contest premise is destroyed because there is no chance of fair play. And if you say "but it's just a game, it doesn't have to be fair, blah blah blah" lemme just say it straight right now: fuck you. If you're gonna run this motherfucker, you're gonna do it right.Of course, that leads to one inevitable conclusion: you cannot run this motherfucker right, therefore you should not do it at all. The horrid subjectivity of the subject matter, the troubles with trying to get impartial judges, and the issues with giving all competitors equal chances all make it a giant clusterfuck that won't ever work. I mean, honestly, it's such a dumb concept to begin with I don't know why you even bothered to make this thread in the first place. Have a little self respect, don't just throw shit at the walls and see what sticks. You don't want to be lumped in with those horrid randumb kids, do you? Seriously, go back to the drawing board and give a little thought to your ideas next time, or don't bother at all.~5000 characters on why this idea is dumb, and I could have added a few more points in there to pad it out even more. I'm a little shit.

you are so gay

[salamimike]

RusalkaRabbit said
Hell, this is even a better use of his time.

[TP]

I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

[Jorick]

Hank said
you are so gay

only 4 u bby <3

[Alex]

Jorick said
only 4 u bby <3

ew

[Turtlicious]

lmao

[Halo]

Sora confirmed for homophobe.

[genghismike]

mdk said
I'm much better behaved when presented with unlimited and unchecked power.

This actually makes sense, though. When I'm left in charge at work, I have a tendency to work harder, be more cooperative with the higher ups, and treat others pleasantly.

Whereas, when I'm not in charge, I'm rebellious as fuck to anything I deem retarded.