[OOC] The New Order(Post WW3 RP)

[TheEvanCat]

Realistic technology for a nation that currently exterminates ethnic groups via twelve year olds with machetes wouldn't be railguns and 3D printing anytime soon.

[Dinh AaronMk]

TheEvanCat said
Realistic technology for a nation that currently exterminates ethnic groups via twelve year olds with machetes wouldn't be railguns and 3D printing anytime soon.

Indeed.

The most likely party to own any of this would be the ASN. They have the organizational wealth to purchase such implements and to use them. The Congo's in a state where cities like Mbandaka have just gotten electricity. But the scale of the Congo and the geography of the nation really makes it expensive to expand the electrical grid across the country. So though Mbandaka is powered, the rest of the nation not so much.

And the Congo doesn't really have much of an army or police force left after the war and the African Insurgency Campaigns. ASN holds all the contracts for private and public security and military work in there.

[AlienBastard]

Huh.

Going to need some serious rethinking. I thought the ASF was more a advanced war corp of some sort, I didn't realize it had that level of influence in Central Africa.

Now I wanna try for a middle eastern nation instead since I don't want to be in a too stable part of the world, but want access to some fancy gadgets. Since ou got creative control in the region and the pace of which OOC goes I minus well scrap the Imperial Kongo and set up shop somewhere else.

Besides, Evan needs a friend, perhaps a Jewish one.

[Dinh AaronMk]

You could be the Congo, but I would say that's now relegated to anyone who gets their rocks off to economic and House of Cards tier political intrique, and who can write it well. And anyone who would accept the back-story I've written and will be writing over the course of the RP. At this stage I control most of the military and security operations.

[AlienBastard]

Political intrigue could be interesting, but be warned that my idea of political intrigue is basically back stabbing a lot.

Issue is my leader even if I dial it down still would be a nationalist who has interest in building up the local military as to be able to bully the less resourceful nations neighboring the DRC, which as a leader in the DRC is not a unlikely possibility even with French marauders posing as the African military.

Overall I don't see why the DRC would let some cheese eating frogs do all the military work.

[TheEvanCat]

AlienBastard said Besides, Evan needs a friend, perhaps a Jewish one.

Iran's actually pretty chill with Jews, just not Zionists. Although Shah Pahlavi was fine with Israel, I'm not sure that there'd be popular support for Israel now (even if there was an Iranian regime change, Israel was still pretty nasty to Iran and vice versa) unless they maybe compromised and accepted a two-state solution and probably some hardcore apologies. Benjie Netanyahu isn't probably going to do either of those things, but a new prime minister would.

After all, it takes a while to forget remarks like: "I will wipe Israel off the face of the Earth in nuclear fire."

[Dinh AaronMk]

AlienBastard said
Political intrigue could be interesting, but be warned that my idea of political intrigue is basically back stabbing a lot. Issue is my leader even if I dial it down still would be a nationalist who has interest in building up the local military as to be able to bully the less resourceful nations neighboring the DRC, which as a leader in the DRC is not a unlikely possibility even with French marauders posing as the African military.Overall I don't see why the DRC would let some cheese eating frogs do all the military work.

Because they don't got a choice and the Congo is already populated by cheese eating frogs, but with black skin. And the ASN recruits a lot from everyone, so it's only French in that the founder is French. The command is pretty much anyone and everyone.

There's also the over-all opinion Africa has of white people, outside of maybe Sudan. For the most part the general African populace receives everyone pretty warmly. And the Congo isn't a stranger to having European people do their important stuff for them.

[TheEvanCat]

AlienBastard said Overall I don't see why the DRC would let some cheese eating frogs do all the military work.

Because they have no money, no military, no organization, and the aforementioned twelve-year-olds-with-machetes-killing-people-because-they're-dfferent situation.

[Dinh AaronMk]

TheEvanCat said
Because they have no money, no military, no organization, and the aforementioned twelve-year-olds-with-machetes-killing-people-because-they're-dfferent situation.

It's only made worse when fifteen years of war all over has killed a lot of working youths, likely caused wide-spread debate on war and significant questioning of its morality like during the First World War, and with the collapse of international law and the UN gave room for companies like the ASN to rise.

Not to mention with the masses of veterans dumped back into the civilian life would leave a lot of individuals feeling lost, unfocused, and without a place in post-war life. You'll have an entire demographic now feeling out of touch. And the ASN is there as their big, multi-national family. So they got a lot of resources to throw around as a cheap alternative to a modern army. Their corporate body also engages in out-of-company private affairs like buying a few private mines they can launder money with to further cut back the price of recruiting ASN.

[AlienBastard]

Yeah...

Imma move north the sahara or arabia. What's the situation like there? I know Iran has decided to go moderate, but other than that haven't seen much about the region.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I'd speak with Evan.

I know he and I are both in agreement that the region was shit during the world, and is still shit now. Iran's running humanitarian efforts in Iraq. But we bumped the shit out to go further all throughout.

[AlienBastard]

The matter of the question being how shit. Middle east is shitty as a place to be, but at least they get running water and some income along with some pretty buildings. Africa, on the other hand...

[Dinh AaronMk]

Shitty enough Iran can feed them with excess food.

[WilsonTurner]

twelve year olds with machetes?

Kill a rich guy and contact the APIRCA to buy some weapons!

[Fisheye]

AlienBastard said
Yeah...Imma move north the sahara or arabia. What's the situation like there? I know Iran has decided to go moderate, but other than that haven't seen much about the region.

Not exactly the Sahara or Arabian peninsula, but you should definitely go with Afghanistan. Their neighbor Pakistan was kind of just wiped from the map ten years ago with nuclear fire, so I'm sure they're experiencing some major aftereffects, and they're stuck in between two up-and-coming/regional powers (Iran and India). Add to that insurgent activity, political instability, and perhaps the misuse of foreign aid funds and you have yourself a good and proper shitty-but-not-entirely-helpless middleastern nation-state.

Hell, you could even embark on operations in Once-Pakistan, if you want some broken cities and irradiated mountains under your wing.

[TheEvanCat]

Would India even be regional power if it got blasted by Paki nukes? There's no way in hell it would have remained unscathed.

[Fisheye]

TheEvanCat said
Would India even be regional power if it got blasted by Paki nukes? There's no way in hell it would have remained unscathed.

They're unquestionably the regional power of South Asia (there's not much competition there, really), but don't really have too much weight to throw around in terms of global influence any more. Right up to their nuclear exchange with Pakistan they might have even been considered a global power (they're heading down that path IRL) but the nukes really put a damper on the entire economic and social progress thing. The main detriment to their progress wasn't even the nukes though, it was the ten+ years of war with China that came immediately afterwards and the oppressive military rule which accompanied it.

People should note, however, that Pakistan failed to launch its entire nuclear arsenal on India before India gave their rebuke and not only incapacitated many of Pakistan's nukes (via, well... more nukes) but also decimated it to the point of no return. Basically, Pakistan used low-yield nuclear missiles on advancing India troop formations (who were already within Pakistani borders), hoping that they could repel and invasion while possibly not encouraging nuclear retaliation from India. India responded with a complete wipe of Pakistan, rather than restraining themselves from escalating the situation further or using similar low-yield bombs on enemy troops. What ensued was a full-on exchange, but India ultimately 'won' due to the fact that it had been able to not only out-range Pakistani nuclear devices (they could strike anywhere in Pakistan, but Pakistan could not retaliate in a similar fashion) but also disable many of their known launching facilities.

Still, most of western India was devastated beyond repair, and the capital itself was basically leveled. I'm dragging most of my information from various webpages, so I like to think that what I'll be presenting is mildly realistic, if not a paragon of that adjective. Anyway, as an actual answer to your question, no- it's not at all unscathed. It's a hell-hole, albeit a reasonably functional one. It's mostly withdrawn from the world stage to tend to its sizeable wounds and ensure that its hegemonic sphere in South Asia doesn't get uppity, as they're pretty essential to India's security, economy, and indeed it's very survival. Basically, India is still the paramount power of its own region (note: I don't consider the Middle East and South Asia to be the same or even similar regions, so I'm certainly not going to compare Iran's power/position to India's) but it's relatively insignificant on the world stage.

What I was aiming for was making India feel like the 'Sick man of Asia' in the style of the late Ottoman Empire. It remains to be seen, however, if they'll collapse, fall into irrelevance, or redeem themselves to a certain extent (akin to post-WWI Germany, perhaps).

[AlienBastard]

Fisheye said
Not exactly the Sahara or Arabian peninsula, but you should definitely go with Afghanistan. Their neighbor Pakistan was kind of just wiped from the map ten years ago with nuclear fire, so I'm sure they're experiencing some major aftereffects, and they're stuck in between two up-and-coming/regional powers (Iran and India). Add to that insurgent activity, political instability, and perhaps the misuse of foreign aid funds and you have yourself a good and proper shitty-but-not-entirely-helpless middleastern nation-state.Hell, you could even embark on operations in Once-Pakistan, if you want some broken cities and irradiated mountains under your wing.

Pakistani refuges in afganistan very well could be a thing here.

[WilsonTurner]

HEY
UNGODLY-SMART PEOPLE

If you're aware of the crises rapidly approaching in the arid areas of the US, especially Texas, about water shortage, then I thank you for not leaving it out.

But Rogue is going into 4-H Congress [against his will] and asked me to ask you guys (more like me asking you guys so I can sound smarter) about what would sound good.

Some of his ideas for such are:
A water grid similar to the power grid, not exact, where water is monitored and controlled, and is allocated to agriculture and cities based on need. 'Credit' can be built up by a water-to-production ratio, especially in agriculture, where if someone has a large amount of farming land, but isn't producing very much, then water will be steadily lowered to force water efficiency and better production, while those with better production to water will receive more water based on whether or not production rises with it.

In addition, people, especially the richer spectrum of people, can have property and items seized from them by a sort of secondary government specifically for resource allocation and control to heavily discourage one from simply buying up all the water rights, and then draining everything from the area, similar to what Las Vegas did to a community. They bought up all the water, pumped it all out, and instead of returning unused water to the original owners, as per the contract, they pumped it into the sea and left the farming community to starve and die without their water.

Plus, the use of a very communistic system to re-allocate water from water-rich areas to areas that are in heavy drought or Stage 6 (I think) areas where water is a major problem, such as present day Fort Worth. Water collection through both recycling used water and by rain collection in the form of a secondary system similar to a sewer under cities to collect rainwater, instead of it all running into the sewers and into the sea or some other area where water can't be easily collected.

Basically, efficient water conservation.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Stop watering your lawns and keep your Texan hands out of my lakes.

Thank you.