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HollywoodMole said
Don't they have episodes that have been completely lost?


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I doubt that

Actually I have Shada a Fourth Doctor thing that was never released on TV because the BBC had a strike, and some that are completely lost to the archives. Don't know from which Doctor they are missing from...
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HollywoodMole said
Don't they have episodes that have been completely lost?


Yes. A good chunk of Hartnell's and Troughton's episodes, unfortunately.

However, fan-made reconstructions exist for these episodes. They're rather impressive.

As for the episodes that Netflix doesn't have, you can find just about all of them on Dailymotion.

But in terms of just getting started, it doesn't really matter that so many chunks are missing. Just find a complete arc, watch that and see what you can find from there. Given the way that most of the arcs are so self-contained, you really can jump in at just about any one of them and still understand most, if not all of what's going on. And when you really think about it, a lot of new Who episodes are like that, too.

As you may have noticed, I'm not nearly as pedantic about strictly watching all episodes in a series 100% in order as most fans of a series are. *shrugs* I can assure you that you can skip around some and be fine.

Just... wait to try watching the lost episodes until you get into Classic Who in general, assuming you do find something that hooks you. The reconstructions are nice and they're better than having nothing at all, but sometimes they can be a little tiring to slog through.
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ladyonyx04 said
Actually I have a Fourth Doctor thing that was never released on TV because the BBC had a strike, and some that are completely lost to the archives. Don't know from which Doctor they are missing from...


Shada never aired on TV, but they did release it on VHS (and I think DVD as well) eventually. As a result, it's available online, as well, so it's not completely unwatchable.

The lost episodes are ones that BBC completely destroyed back in the 70's, back when archiving for these sorts of things wasn't as good and, without digital technology, all that film took up actual, physical storage space and so sometimes old things got thrown out to make room for new things. BBC was never able to release them on VHS or DVD afterwards and, since fan recordings of shows were extremely rare back then, I'm pretty sure hardly any of them were recovered. About a third of Hartnell's episodes and like half of Troughton's were lost in that way. Thankfully after that they cleaned up their act and stopped destroying old content. :/

However, it is clear that BBC is at least attempting to make up for their past mistakes. Since the audio was still salvageable for all of them, they do make that available - in fact they even have narration covering everything that should've been conveyed visually, which pretty much turns the episodes into an audio drama, but that's still way better than nothing. Also, in the case of a few episodes, they created animated versions to replace the original video. ...The animation isn't very good, in my opinion, but at least it's an attempt. Also, BBC's website has a list of all the lost episodes with a note at the bottom saying something like "If you have any Doctor Who content that you think might be of interest to us, here's how you can contact us". So they are still trying to fill in those gaps in the episodes, it seems. But unfortunately I imagine VHS copies of episodes people had recorded at home ~45-50 years ago are rather hard to come by.
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Damm you BBC!
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Damm you BBC!


Like I said, they really are trying to fix their mistakes! And at least there are fan-made reconstructions you can watch.
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