Israel is in Gaza again

[mdk]

nobody cares.

[The Nexerus]

I find it really, really hard to care about the Gaza Strip.

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BREAKING NEWS: ISRAEL STILL DICKS

[genghismike]

As I'm not over there, I really don't know who kicked who in the dick first.

[Drakel]

genghismike said
As I'm not over there, I really don't know who kicked who in the dick first.

This...

[mdk]

genghismike said
As I'm not over there, I really don't know who kicked who in the dick first.

with the amount of dick-kicking that goes on in the middle east, 'who kicked first' is pretty much a moot point.

[HollywoodMole]

Israel... please just stop existing.

[Aragorn]

HollywoodMole said
Israel... please just stop existing.

I think Israel should keep existing.
Heres one of the reasons:
Recently there was a murder of some palestinian citizens in Israel. Israel is trying to figure out whodunit.
Same thing happened in Palestine: No fucks given.
I may be biased due to being jewish, but fuck Palestine and the Hamas.

Not to mention the fact that Israel is a world leader in technology while Palestine's rockets are old technology at best, and not a single one landed in a populated area in Israel, all of them either being destroyed by Israel's anti-missile defenses or ending up in no-mans land. Lets face it, Israel has something to contribute to the world. Palestine(More specifically, it's government and the Hamas) has nothing but hate to contribute.

[Brovo]

Fuck that whole area. It's so much of a mess that anyone who takes a side at this point does so completely out of personal bias, not out of any sort of logical process, considering both sides are so utterly soaked in innocent blood that this is just a battle of lesser evils. Whoever win, nothing is resolved unless it ends in genocide, and nobody wants that I would assume.

Unless you're like, evil.

Then you know.... Eeeeevvvilll.

[mdk]

Aragorn said Palestine(More specifically, it's government and the Hamas) has nothing but hate to contribute.

For all the disgusting shit they do, Hamas do actually like, you know, build hospitals and feed the poor and shit. They're not pure evil. They're a political manifestation of a sick society (sick as in ill). Guerilla armies cannot exist among an uncooperative population; Hamas has power because for better or worse, and for whatever reason, the Palestinian psyche supports them; and they do actually live up to that support, often as not, when they're not blowing up kids or using mosque worshipers as human shields.

Idunno why I said that. Not 'nothing but hate,' I guess, they do public work. Still fuck 'em, but let's give the devil his due.

[ActRaiserTheReturned]

mdk said
For all the disgusting shit they do, Hamas do actually like, you know, build hospitals and feed the poor and shit. They're not pure evil. They're a political manifestation of a sick society (sick as in ill). Guerilla armies cannot exist among an uncooperative population; Hamas has power because for better or worse, and for whatever reason, the Palestinian psyche supports them; and they do actually live up to that support, often as not, when they're not blowing up kids or using mosque worshipers as human shields. Idunno why I said that. Not 'nothing but hate,' I guess, they do public work. Still fuck 'em, but let's give the devil his due.

Yes. For all his evil deeds, Tim Curry has an awesome voice.

[Iota]

So Gaza's making another run at Israel? Lol, never gonna happen.

[Vortex]

How dare you desecrate spam with global political issues!

And because i like bandwagons...

Fuck Israel!

[CidTheKid]

Two sides with a complicated geopolitical history are fighting again.

At this point, fighting has become the status quo, and is unlikely to be resolved anytime soon.

Acts of god notwithstanding.

[scribz]

For someone who is pretty for Gaza (not hamas, gaza.)

Just going to clarify.

Taking this one situation out of the context of this long on-going shit-storm to which I can mostly blame Iraq, Britain, and Jewish nationalism fervent Zionists.

This one is actually mostly gaza's fault (or hamas. I guess. I dunno. The iron dome is pretty fucking cool though).

[Dervish]

scribz said
For someone who is pretty for Gaza (not hamas, gaza.)Just going to clarify. Taking this one situation out of the context of this long on-going shit-storm to which I can mostly blame Iraq, Britain, and Jewish nationalism fervent Zionists.This one is actually mostly gaza's fault (or hamas. I guess. I dunno. The iron dome is pretty fucking cool though).

I'm all for military technology that saves lives. The Iron Dome system is fantastic.

I can't say I'm for dropping the hammer, because it's almost entirely civilians getting killed. Hard to come across as the good guys when you're basically beating the kid next door with a barbed wire bat in retaliation for largely ineffective bottle rockets. The more Israel does shit like this, the more inclined your average Palestinian is going to support the guys who fight back.

If you want to stop Hamas from being a major threat, stop driving people to them.

[mdk]

Dervish said
I'm all for military technology that saves lives. The Iron Dome system is fantastic. I can't say I'm for dropping the hammer, because it's almost entirely civilians getting killed. Hard to come across as the good guys when you're basically beating the kid next door with a barbed wire bat in retaliation for largely ineffective bottle rockets. The more Israel does shit like this, the more inclined your average Palestinian is going to support the guys who fight back.If you want to stop Hamas from being a major threat, stop driving people to them.

Specifically why Hamas is incentivized to continue indiscriminate rocket attacks on Israeli population centers. This is why terrorism works.

[Jster]

Why does everyone feel a need to pick sides? It's not a fucking sports game people. If you support in Palestine and say "Fuck Israel" then you're a terrible person. If you support in Israel and say "Fuck Palestine" you're a terrible person.

And I can't understand condoning anything Israel does because they're a technological power house, or the West's Middle Eastern ally. Sometimes they do shitty things, and they shouldn't be supported in that. Everyone involved in this is a human being. On both sides. So treat them that way.

[ActRaiserTheReturned]

Jster said
Why does everyone feel a need to pick sides? It's not a fucking sports game people. If you support in Palestine and say "Fuck Israel" then you're a terrible person. If you support in Israel and say "Fuck Palestine" you're a terrible person. And I can't understand condoning anything Israel does because they're a technological power house, or the West's Middle Eastern ally. Sometimes they do shitty things, and they shouldn't be supported in that. Everyone involved in this is a human being. On both sides. So treat them that way.

I mostly agree. Supporting Israel because they are a Western ally is actually a good idea, because western values don't involve killing, mutilating, and eating our enemies, at least, not anymore. ;)
Also, for all you nitpickers out there, by enemies, I mean "someone who's religion isn't yours".

[Drakel]

Fuck it my opinion isn't going to contribute more than the occasional "This fight is fucking stupid and both sides are terrible" and Aragorn's "Israel should stay, It's not all THAT bad... just some of what it does is bad."