Destiny inspired future fantasy. (WIP, needs a name)

[Gisk]

No, it wouldn't because not all skills will be learnable at level one. Some may be level three even higher at the highest element affinity, and such skills could be beyond the reach of anyone who doesn't have top tier affinity.

But, on the flipside, there will be skills that require both elements. And if you put all of your points into one, you won't be able to use them at all either.

This would basically make there three possible paths for each class.

If I do just revert to the skill point idea, I will still put element point limits on some skills. So that there's upsides and downsides to your element choices. But, if I do that I will also give out some arbitrary number of element points with each "level up."

I'd like to hear more people's thoughts/questions about these things.

[Gisk]

Something I'd like to remind people who might be thinking about possible skills is that not all skills will literally utilize the elements. Earth could throw a big rock or change the shape of the earth, but it could also hold something in place, make your body(or your friend's body) stronger and things like that. They can be literal, but they don't have to be.

[Gisk]

I'm still making minor additions to the Lore post, so it's not done, just so you know.

Two new ideas:

First of all: we're probably going to go with Trapezoid's weapon idea. In addition to the Raiment, you can choose to spend some of your crystals on a weapon as well(the nature of the weapon is entirely up to you). The more you spend on your weapon, the more powerful, but also the less you have to spend on your Raiment(which impacts your abilities).

There's been an alternate skill tree form suggested to me, and here is my version of it:

Each class has some amount of basic skills, each one has element point requirements, and they are all the prerequisites to unlock more advanced skills in the same sort of vein.

For instance, one branch of skills for the Knights could be terraforming techniques. The basic would be making a hole to try to trip your opponent. You could expand on it with a variety of things. A fissure instead of a hole, or put spikes in the hole. Each level you get to add one to your repertoire, but some will have element point requirements. So you could only advance so far in the terraforming skill tree if your Earth is low.

This would make it slower gaining skills, and I would compensate by handing out levels more often. But it would make characters more specialized, and allow you to make your skill choices over time instead of basically deciding it all at once.

Thoughts?

[Sage]

I really like that last idea, the whole "more specializied character skill development" route is much better. Allows for adaptation to events/people in the rp instead of just making your character and letting them go wild. I was actually hoping to have my character start kinda nooby and have him still be in the training phase in the realm's academy or whatever it would be, so it would be awkward if he already had all his skills.

[Gisk]

Well there's no route where you'd have all your skills. In my first draft there would probably be only one technique per character that they had from the get go.

[DR_TRAPEZOID]

I do really like that idea for the Skill Trees. One thing I'm not quite clear on, is our starting skill points. You said that the Raiments would be a part of determining that? Or is that something different you were talking about?

[Pathfinder]

Knowing how I play all games with skill trees, I'm just going to pick all the tanky skills with a little dps mixed in.

[Gisk]

I assume you mean the most recent one I mentioned.

You'll get one, maybe two skill points to assign at the very beginning. Skills will have elemental requirements(obviously you can't fly if you don't have any air). Your raiment is the source of your elemental power, and it's made up of the crystals you have in the beginning. So that's what it has to do with your skills. If you don't have any earth in your raiment, you can't go slinging rocks.

Your element thing will look something like this:

Knight
Earth: 13
Water: 12
Weapon: 5

With your elements almost even, you'll be able to learn most of the early skills. But higher up the skill tree there will be skills that can only be learned if you use primarily one element or the other.

To give an example of a skill under this system, I'll use the same one:

Glide:
Elemental requirement: 8 Air.

Flight:
Prerequisite: Glide
Elemental Requirement: 12 Air.

And then dual element abilities, the early ones will just require that you have both elements, but later ones will require more and more balance. Top tier will require you to have it split 15/15(This way there's an advantage to forgoing a weapon, as those who spend crystals on weapons won't be able to use top tier abilities.

[Sage]

Can't wait to get this going, you plannin on havin an OOC up anytime soon?

[Gisk]

Well I haven't even finished with lore, but I think we can safely say that my latest skill system is the best so I'll stick with it, so that's decided.

Maybe tomorrow, but maybe later. We'll see how long it takes me to get the skill tree up.

If you guys want to, feel free to follow the same format for skills I gave and you can submit ideas for them via PM. I may change element requirements or prerequisites, though. So be prepared for that.

[Gisk]

Bump before work.

[Gisk]

These are all based on thirty points given in the beginning. It is also a work in progress.
Note that when a skill's power depends on level, that means your character's level(how many skill points total that you have assigned).
EDIT: actually, let's just assume that all abilities grow more powerful with your character.

Knight

Might: Swell your limbs with power(has a passive boost to physical strength as well).
Elemental Requirements: 8 Earth

Bulwark:Harden your body against incoming attacks(also has a passive boost to physical endurance).
Prerequisite: Might
Elemental Requirement: 16 Earth

Juggernaut: Both Might and Bulwark are always active.
Prerequisite: Bulwark
Elemental Requirement: 25

Seismic Wake: Every step shakes the earth, leaving crags behind you.
Elemental Requirement: 8 Earth

Geomancy: Launch chunks of earth from the ground(Cannot make earth float).
Prerequisite: Seismic Wake
Elemental Requirement: 16 Earth

Seismic Launch: Launch yourself from the ground with a seismic wave.
Prerequisite: Seismic Wake
Elemental Requirement: 16 Earth

Fissure: Create great cracks in the surface of the earth.
Prerequisite: Geomancy
Elemental Requirement: 25 Earth

Entomb: Command the earth to rise up to swallow your enemies.
Prerequisite: Geomancy
Elemental Requirement: 30 Earth.

Detect Life: Sense living things nearby.
Elemental Requirements: 8 Earth, 8 Water

Heal: Mend bones and knit flesh.
Elemental Requirements. 10 Earth, 10 Water

Revive: Return the freshly dead to life.
Prerequisite: Heal
Elemental Requirements: 15 Earth, 15 Water

Skill: Your strikes hit more accurately, and you react more swiftly to enemy attacks(also has a passive boost to accuracy and speed).
Elemental Requirement: 8 Water

Parry: Expertly block and evade all incoming attacks.
Prerequisite: Skill
Elemental Requirement: 16 Water

Strike True: Your blows land only where your opponent is weakest.
Prerequisite: Skill
Elemental Requirement: 16 Water

Rapid Flow: Rush as water, gliding gracefully and untouchable between enemies.
Prerequisite: Parry, Strike True.
Elemental Requirement: 30 Water

Hydromancy: Control water from your environment.
Elemental Requirement: 15 Water.

Water Breathing: Can breath under water as if you were in air.
Prerequisite: Hydromancy
Elemental Requirement: 20 Water

Water Walking: Can walk on top of water as if it were solid ground, but can also walk through it as if it were air.
Prerequisite: Water Breathing
Elemental Requirement: 20 Water.

Monk

Gust: Blow wind in a short, powerful burst.
Elemental Requirement: 5 Air

Wind Blade: A quick burst of highly concentrated air in a straight light. Powerful enough to cut through steel.
Prerequisite: Gust
Elemental Requirement: 10 Air.

Thunder Storm: Change weather patterns to create a thunder storm. The lightning strikes are concentrated on a targeted area, but the Monk has no control over them.
Prerequisite: Gust
Elemental Requirement: 17 Air.

Hurricane: Change weather patterns to create a full blown hurricane. The eye is formed at a targeted area, but the Monk has no control over the storm after creation.
Prerequisite: Thunder Storm
Elemental Requirement: 30 Air.

Levitate: Raise and hold an object into the air. The object will remain levitated without any further input from the Monk until the spell wears off.
Elemental Requirement: 13 Air

Speed: Run like the wind.
Elemental Requirement: 7 Air

Glide:
Prerequisite: Speed
Elemental Requirement: 15 Air.

Flight:
Prerequisite: Glide
Elemental Requirement: 17 Air.

Mind Link: Can establish a link to the minds of non-Monks.
Elemental Requirements: 10 Air, 10 Fire

Familiar: Can tame and establish a bond with an animal.
Prerequisite: Mind Link
Elemental Requirements: 13 Air, 13, Fire.

Sense Aura: Can see the spiritual aura of living things. Can be used to see their emotional state, and predict movements.
Prerequisite: Mind Link
Elemental Requirements: 13 Air, 13, Fire.

Aura Strike: Extend your own spirit as a weapon to harm your opponent's.
Prerequisite: Sense Aura
Elemental Requirements: 15 Air, 15 Fire.

Pyromancy: Summon and manipulate fire.
Elemental Requirement: 10 Fire.

Torch: Creates a "blade" of fire hot enough to cut steel. Blade is held in the hand and short range.
Prerequisite: Pyromancy
Elemental Requirement: 15

Firestorm: Calls a rain of fire upon the field. The storm starts in a targeted area, but the Monk has no control after releasing it.
Prerequisite: Torch
Elemental Requirement: 17 Fire

Eruption: Molten lava bursts from the earth, altering the landscape and filling the sky with ash.
Prerequisite: Firestorm
Elemental Requirement: 30 Fire.

Purify: Remove those things that poison and corrupt. Can be literal toxins in a body, and also pollution in the environment.
Elemental Requirement: 7 Fire

Rebirth: Remake the dead and the frail and sick into young versions of themselves(can be used on older dead than the Knight's Revive, but targets will be reverted to infancy).
Prerequisite: Purify
Elemental Requirement: 13 Fire

Phoenix: Upon death, the Monk will be reborn as a child. Skills are reset, Raiment is destroyed, but they will have five innate points of Fire in addition to thirty that can be reasigned(upon next visit to Spire City). Has previous knowledge, but not episodic memory.
Prerequisite: Rebirth
Elemental Requirement: 17 Fire

Ascendant

Plasma: Throw bursts of radioactive heat.
Elemental Requirement: 10 Sun

Plasma Aura: Surround yourself with an aura of radioactive heat.
Prerequisite: Plasma
Elemental Requirement: 12 Sun

Vaporize: Reduces solid objects to gas(Cannot affect biology or machines)
Prerequisite: Plasma Aura
Elemental requirement: 15 Sun

Fusion: Starts a non-sustainable fusion reaction, devastating large patches of the battlefield.
Prerequisite: Vaporize
Elemental Requirement: 25 Sun

Refraction: Bend light to shift visual perception.
Elemental Requirement: 10 Sun

Illusion: Bend light to appear in whatever shape you please.
Prerequisite: Refraction
Elemental Requirement: 15 Sun

Null Matter: Creates a shadowy imitation of solid matter. Sublimates over time(time depends on level), cannot replicate biology or machines.
Elemental Requirement: 5 Sun, 5 Void

Matter: Creates real, solid matter from nothing. Cannot replicate biology or machines.
Prerequisite: Null Matter
Elemental Requirement: 10 Sun, 10 Void

Sunder: Break heterogeneous objects apart.
Prerequisite: Matter
Elemental Requirement: 12/13 Sun, 12/13 Void(one must be thirteen, but can be either).

Kinesis: Move objects at your whim.
Elemental Requirement: 10 Void

Force Field: Create an unpassable barrier of Void
Prerequisite: Kinesis
Elemental Requirements: 15 Void

Fade: Become intangible for short stretches of time. Length of time depends on level.
Elemental Requirement: 12 Void

Blink: Teleport Distance depends on level.
Prerequisite: Fade
Elemental Requirement: 15 Void

Vanish: Make solid matter vanish from reality. Cannot vanish biology or machines.
Prerequisite: Fade
Elemental requirement: 15 Void

Black Hole: Summons a non-sustainable black hole, irresistibly devouring matter.
Prerequisite:
Elemental Requirement: 25

I'm trying to find a way to make this a decent chart, but in the mean time it's just a stupid long ass list.

[singmesweetly]

I just wanted to state interest in this. c:

[Empath]

Got to say I love those Ascendants more and more.

Keeps getting better and better!

[Sage]

Hell yeah, bout to make myself an ascendant, though I'm imagining those Monks as flying pyromancer Lee Sin's, which is the sexiest thing ever.

[Gisk]

Yeah, I just have a lot of ideas coming in for the Ascendants. The other two will get their time to shine.

[Empath]

Looking forward to it ^^

[Pathfinder]

It might be my computer but I'm not seeing anything in the knight category.

[Gisk]

It is not your computer. The knight category is at present empty. I just haven't been working on it yet.

[Gisk]

Try again, Path :P

And I haven't even gotten to Water abilities x_x