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*I snap my fingers as a proverbial lightbulb turns on above my head* Well placed fair Grace! So then, it is true about the objective morality of heaven, and that delusional self-interested types actually endanger worlds anywhere they go, and risk disturbing their already frail balance?


I wouldn't describe it that way; I've met many kind and wonderful people throughout my life. But when a handful of those individuals do lurk, those who aren't has to change their behavior to compensate. That seems like the natural order of things inside dimensions and in their outskirts.

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Perhaps advice? I wouldn't want to put you under unnecessary danger, but he's the real deal. A true Satan, tempter and deceiver of the pure in heart, the snake at the beginning.... I wouldn't think it would be okay if he escaped and then proceeded to kill us all then do heavens know what to the rest of existence no?


What you've describe wouldn't be good, no.
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I wouldn't describe it that way; I've met many kind and wonderful people throughout my life. But when a handful of those individuals do lurk, those who aren't has to change their behavior to compensate. That seems like the natural order of things inside dimensions and in their outskirts.

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What you've describe wouldn't be good, no.


Perhaps those are the blessed dimensions, those who do not exist on a very thin floating line between utter chaos and barely managing to contain itself from the rest.

In fact i would bring the argument, that that is NOT the case for the vast majority of worlds. From my experience. So many worlds just perish because they are taken over by those who are of darkness like that.

But i can see your point too. Sadly i cannot say, across the many eternities of existence and surveying multiverses and universes come and go, many succumbed to avarice, selfishness, apathy, and usually that killed them in the end.

Balance, or for that matter, goodness, is the responsibility of those in power who have the responsibility to be bearers of light onto worlds, to burn away the darkness.
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I wouldn't describe it that way; I've met many kind and wonderful people throughout my life. But when a handful of those individuals do lurk, those who aren't has to change their behavior to compensate. That seems like the natural order of things inside dimensions and in their outskirts.

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What you've describe wouldn't be good, no.


No it wouldn't... it wouldn't indeed. In fact all i can say is, i think i understand the severity of not listening to Gabriel when even he resisted me from using that Akashic summons spell here. I was being desperate. And did not even think it possible that THAT particular spell was Morningstar's ticket out of his predicament...
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Perhaps those are the blessed dimensions, those who do not exist on a very thin floating line between utter chaos and barely managing to contain itself from the rest.

In fact i would bring the argument, that that is NOT the case for the vast majority of worlds. From my experience. So many worlds just perish because they are taken over by those who are of darkness like that.

But i can see your point too. Sadly i cannot say, across the many eternities of existence and surveying multiverses and universes come and go, many succumbed to avarice, selfishness, apathy, and usually that killed them in the end.

Balance, or for that matter, goodness, is the responsibility of those in power who have the responsibility to be bearers of light onto worlds, to burn away the darkness.


I can hardly presume what ought or not ought be as it pertains to the natural order. But I can tell you what I've observed. Dimensions are small enough that the weak can afford to gather and oppose the strong. That isn't to say the weak or strong are good or evil, but in broader Existence, there are few who are truly weak, and fewer still who can gather to create an entity stronger still. And thus the expanse protects itself from imbalance, for it resists shifting of the scales by overwhelming them with void.
*Clears my throat*
Sorry, I got a bit carried away.
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No it wouldn't... it wouldn't indeed. In fact all i can say is, i think i understand the severity of not listening to Gabriel when even he resisted me from using that Akashic summons spell here. I was being desperate. And did not even think it possible that THAT particular spell was Morningstar's ticket out of his predicament...


I'm not sure what you mean at all, I'm afraid.
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I can hardly presume what ought or not ought be as it pertains to the natural order. But I can tell you what I've observed. Dimensions are small enough that the weak can afford to gather and oppose the strong. That isn't to say the weak or strong are good or evil, but in broader Existence, there are few who are truly weak, and fewer still who can gather to create an entity stronger still. And thus the expanse protects itself from imbalance, for it resists shifting of the scales by overwhelming them with void.
*Clears my throat*
Sorry, I got a bit carried away.


How much of the broader existence have you seen already? It feels like we are talking about the same concept fundamentally, infinities within infinities yet somehow still acting like their organism.

That philosophy is sound and has been proven even in my corner of infinity. But what i am talking about is about what would look to some from a certain vantage point to be a mere speck that fixes itself in the end, to those in said speck, it is cosmic catastrophe of the highest proportions...
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I'm not sure what you mean at all, I'm afraid.


*Clear throat* I did something i was told to not do by Gabriel and Prism, and it turns out Satan came riding that horse.

Now i'm hard at work trying to see how to fix my mistake... At first, enchanting several quantum seals with apocalyptic scriptures has proven to weaken him all the way enough that he could be imprisoned. And ever since then i tried figuring out a way to completely eradicate him... as redemption for him seemed to be something he always used only to toy with our emotions and minds for his dark goals, never once seeming like the messages and talks did any modicum of progress. But one thing i did come to realise, is that he IS a genius deceiver and a genius level actor.

He would sweet talk you into heaven if it could bring him some form of entertainment or make him gain something. That is a false heaven, but still.
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How much of the broader existence have you seen already? It feels like we are talking about the same concept fundamentally, infinities within infinities yet somehow still acting like their organism.

That philosophy is sound and has been proven even in my corner of infinity. But what i am talking about is about what would look to some from a certain vantage point to be a mere speck that fixes itself in the end, to those in said speck, it is cosmic catastrophe of the highest proportions...


In the end, anything that we have the opportunity to observe is a mere spec in the vastness of all that is. And although infinite, it is not without its boundaries.
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*Clear throat* I did something i was told to not do by Gabriel and Prism, and it turns out Satan came riding that horse.

Now i'm hard at work trying to see how to fix my mistake... At first, enchanting several quantum seals with apocalyptic scriptures has proven to weaken him all the way enough that he could be imprisoned. And ever since then i tried figuring out a way to completely eradicate him... as redemption for him seemed to be something he always used only to toy with our emotions and minds for his dark goals, never once seeming like the messages and talks did any modicum of progress. But one thing i did come to realise, is that he IS a genius deceiver and a genius level actor.

He would sweet talk you into heaven if it could bring him some form of entertainment or make him gain something. That is a false heaven, but still.


I'm afraid I may not be of much help to you, in that case. I'm not a practitioner of magic arts.
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In the end, anything that we have the opportunity to observe is a mere spec in the vastness of all that is. And although infinite, it is not without its boundaries.


Absoluetely.

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*Clear throat* I did something i was told to not do by Gabriel and Prism, and it turns out Satan came riding that horse.

Now i'm hard at work trying to see how to fix my mistake... At first, enchanting several quantum seals with apocalyptic scriptures has proven to weaken him all the way enough that he could be imprisoned. And ever since then i tried figuring out a way to completely eradicate him... as redemption for him seemed to be something he always used only to toy with our emotions and minds for his dark goals, never once seeming like the messages and talks did any modicum of progress. But one thing i did come to realise, is that he IS a genius deceiver and a genius level actor.

He would sweet talk you into heaven if it could bring him some form of entertainment or make him gain something. That is a false heaven, but still.


*I proceed to return-slap you on your back so hard that you cough out all your air for a second as i grin annoyed* Aaah... never gets old when sinners become desperate about the realisation of their mistake. And also him thinking his muscles did me any real discomfort... Benny boy. Don't you think an Archangel would outmatch you on a back slap?
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I'm afraid I may not be of much help to you, in that case. I'm not a practitioner of magic arts.


Hmmm... magic is not the only thing that has powers that people would class above material laws.

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Absoluetely.

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*I proceed to return-slap you on your back so hard that you cough out all your air for a second as i grin annoyed* Aaah... never gets old when sinners become desperate about the realisation of their mistake. And also him thinking his muscles did me any real discomfort... Benny boy. Don't you think an Archangel would outmatch you on a back slap?


*I cough so hard i fall to the ground* Maaan... instead of putting salt in my wound you could possibly be gentler here?
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Hmmm... magic is not the only thing that has powers that people would class above material laws.

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*I cough so hard i fall to the ground* Maaan... instead of putting salt in my wound you could possibly be gentler here?


It isn't. I dare might not say it's the most common either.
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It isn't. I dare might not say it's the most common either.


*Gets up and pulls out my tesseract for you to see also* Exactly. I'm not a sorcerer fundamentally, though i have dabbed a lot in magic, alchemy, runecraft and adjacent. This right here, is not magic, but seems to be ruling over magic almost and the quantum realms too...

So what other advice can you give us in trying to either banish him, exterminate him, or force him into another hell where he cannot get out of this time if possible.
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I imagine it probably tastes better that way, anyway.


Tastes the same, but the food I snap into existence looks live a 5 star meal from a five star hotel. Mine looks like a 4 star meal at a family business.
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*Gets up and pulls out my tesseract for you to see also* Exactly. I'm not a sorcerer fundamentally, though i have dabbed a lot in magic, alchemy, runecraft and adjacent. This right here, is not magic, but seems to be ruling over magic almost and the quantum realms too...

So what other advice can you give us in trying to either banish him, exterminate him, or force him into another hell where he cannot get out of this time if possible.


An important lesson to learn is that severed from the rules of your home dimension, virtually all can die, one way or another. Some make it difficult.
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An important lesson to learn is that severed from the rules of your home dimension, virtually all can die, one way or another. Some make it difficult.


Yeah, death seems to be a constant no matter where you look. But believe you me... if i haddn't trapped our battle with him in a pocket dimension prior to his imprisonment, then we probably wouldn't have been having the chat on this particular planet at all... probably may not have had any chat at all, because the pocket dimension favoured Gabriel, Myallah, Akella and i over Satan.
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Tastes the same, but the food I snap into existence looks live a 5 star meal from a five star hotel. Mine looks like a 4 star meal at a family business.


What about the taste?
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What about the taste?


As I said, it tastes the same.
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Yeah, death seems to be a constant no matter where you look. But believe you me... if i haddn't trapped our battle with him in a pocket dimension prior to his imprisonment, then we probably wouldn't have been having the chat on this particular planet at all... probably may not have had any chat at all, because the pocket dimension favoured Gabriel, Myallah, Akella and i over Satan.


I do believe you. I hope you find an amicable solution to your problem.
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I do believe you. I hope you find an amicable solution to your problem.


So you got enough information from me then? And is your particular organization just going to send an extermination team next? I wasn't here for your discussions with Gabriel, but if your organization is like that then at least tell me to my face i am a threat to your leader's powers that be here!
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