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Of course. But you have found a reasonable source of standards?

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I cannot answer any of your questions unless it can be proved that you are on our side. My apologies, but I must be wary.

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Quite well. Slightly disoriented, but quite well.

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Well, on the bright side, Unity is gone.


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Life.


Tough decision.
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Yet you lack the knowledge that we rarely abide by the rules of individuals who make baseless claims or outrageous request. If telling the truth, you know this path won't work out either and that you're walking it the wrong way. That means that you went into this aware of the fact, or that you're lying. You seem rather intelligent, so I'll temporarily rule out the latter, unless lying is a means to achieve your end. Either way, the result is the same: you know what you're doing here and that it wouldn't work. You prepared to be rejected because it led to the outcome you desired; otherwise, you'd make up some other scenario or go down a different path. Then what's your angle? Why did you choose this way?

When you stare at the clouds in the sky, don't you find it exciting?


*Smiles slightly* Very observant. In the simplest terms, I have very limited options. The fact that I cannot disclose information that may seem trivial is detrimental to me as well as to you. I was also unable to choose a desirable path, as my purpose here was changed against my expectations and against my will. I intended for other things to happen before approaching a surrogate, but several dead ends were reached that, on the whole, have left me in a situation where I have little to no chance to succeed. Since I also have limited time, my actual desires have little impact on what I can and can't do to try to reach my goal. As it is, my bet is on several things entirely out of my control. I cannot give you certain information, and I refuse to give you other information. As such, you don't trust me and are not likely to complete my request. Retaining my observer status requires severely limiting my possible actions, so I cannot do any of the things that would otherwise increase my chances. My angle is desperation.

That's not a question I can answer in a consistent way.
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Tough decision.


Be a living lifer, or a non-living haxor.
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*Smiles slightly* Very observant. In the simplest terms, I have very limited options. The fact that I cannot disclose information that may seem trivial is detrimental to me as well as to you. I was also unable to choose a desirable path, as my purpose here was changed against my expectations and against my will. I intended for other things to happen before approaching a surrogate, but several dead ends were reached that, on the whole, have left me in a situation where I have little to no chance to succeed. Since I also have limited time, my actual desires have little impact on what I can and can't do to try to reach my goal. As it is, my bet is on several things entirely out of my control. I cannot give you certain information, and I refuse to give you other information. As such, you don't trust me and are not likely to complete my request. Retaining my observer status requires severely limiting my possible actions, so I cannot do any of the things that would otherwise increase my chances. My angle is desperation.

That's not a question I can answer in a consistent way.


And you believe that we will simply give in due to this? And I doubt this is actually the absolute last resort; in fact, it's entirely probable that you have presented this information to us in falsehood in order to gain trust that would not be there otherwise. It's possible you predicted my predictions entirely, or someone more strategically minded did.

Take another look.
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Be a living lifer, or a non-living haxor.


Haxors have no lives, correct.
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Haxors have no lives, correct.


Well, I think I see where we stand.
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Well, I think I see where we stand.


On a planet.
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On a planet.


Or in.
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Or in.


In how?
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Mierno:

*sits at a table*
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Mierno:

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And you believe that we will simply give in due to this? And I doubt this is actually the absolute last resort; in fact, it's entirely probable that you have presented this information to us in falsehood in order to gain trust that would not be there otherwise. It's possible you predicted my predictions entirely, or someone more strategically minded did.

Take another look.
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On the contrary, I don't believe you'll help just because I'm in need of help. Nor would I label this my "absolute last resort." That implies that I have several options that are acceptable to use beforehand. This is simply the best of several very terrible options. I understand that you mistrust me, but you're truly reading too far into this. I haven't told a lie since I was six, and while I assumed you would be observant enough to form the view you did, like I said, I'm betting on things outside of my control.

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On the contrary, I don't believe you'll help just because I'm in need of help. Nor would I label this my "absolute last resort." That implies that I have several options that are acceptable to use beforehand. This is simply the best of several very terrible options. I understand that you mistrust me, but you're truly reading too far into this. I haven't told a lie since I was six, and while I assumed you would be observant enough to form the view you did, like I said, I'm betting on things outside of my control.

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You misunderstand my point. The fact that you may be making a gamble here makes it very difficult for both of us; in fact, you've entirely disconnected the variable, if true. If you had this planned in the first place, there'd be a constant to derive a result from. But because the results may be entirely unknown to you, it being a risk instead of a calculated means, there is no way for us to determine whether we should help you. Whether intentional or not, you've effectively reduced the chances to a clean 50/50. And I don't like that.

They're quite beautiful, though I'm more of a computery guy myself.
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In how?


In a mountain. In the ground. In a planet.
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In a mountain. In the ground. In a planet.


Fair.
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Mierno:

hello.
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You misunderstand my point. The fact that you may be making a gamble here makes it very difficult for both of us; in fact, you've entirely disconnected the variable, if true. If you had this planned in the first place, there'd be a constant to derive a result from. But because the results may be entirely unknown to you, it being a risk instead of a calculated means, there is no way for us to determine whether we should help you. Whether intentional or not, you've effectively reduced the chances to a clean 50/50. And I don't like that.

They're quite beautiful, though I'm more of a computery guy myself.


You have it backwards. I've raised them to fifty-fifty. That's why of the terrible options available to me, this was the best one. To simply make the approach and leave it out of my hands. Even though we could claim it's an even shot now, really, this has a less than one percent chance for me, which is still the highest among the few options I had. You being incredibly intelligent and analytical is a bonus.

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