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By the concept of imaginary numbers, by definition, cannot be achieved in real life. And the problem with quantum theories is that they're nearly pure assumptions, and beliefs in particles that "have to be there" because we have no other explanation, currently, similar to Dark Matter.


What is the concept of imaginary numbers such that they cannot be achieved in real life? They're only called imaginary because of the derogatory term for it. Rather, discard your conception of these numbers being imaginary and work from there to see if they really are imaginary or not. Complex numbers are simply numbers that involve the square root of a negative number--which we get if a particle moves faster than light. There are no mathematical objections to the idea of a particle moving faster than light other than saying that a particle can't have an "imaginary" mass. But there's no way to say that a particle can't have an "imaginary" mass unless you have the preconception that imaginary masses must be imaginary.

Before I put any thought into this, I made sure not to bias myself toward the idea that the concept of imaginary numbers must be imaginary, per their name. Discard that bias and then look at my logic--there is nothing to say we can't have a complex mass unless you say a particle can't move faster than light.
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I'm back, sorreh for the late post:(
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What is the concept of imaginary numbers such that they cannot be achieved in real life? They're only called imaginary because of the derogatory term for it. Rather, discard your conception of these numbers being imaginary and work from there to see if they really are imaginary or not. Complex numbers are simply numbers that involve the square root of a negative number--which we get if a particle moves faster than light. There are no mathematical objections to the idea of a particle moving faster than light other than saying that a particle can't have an "imaginary" mass. But there's no way to say that a particle can't have an "imaginary" mass unless you have the preconception that imaginary masses must be imaginary.

Before I put any thought into this, I made sure not to bias myself toward the idea that the concept of imaginary numbers must be imaginary, per their name. Discard that bias and then look at my logic--there is nothing to say we can't have a complex mass unless you say a particle can't move faster than light.


No, it's called imaginary because no number can be squared to return a negative number; you would be forced to invent an entirely new number system- which someone did. I hold that equations could likely be solved with another formula, using strictly real numbers. Regarding faster than light, there is no reason a particle moving at that speed would somehow change formulas to include imaginary principles, and while there may not be mathematical objections (technically), there are physics objections, due to anything traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy, or no mass. Because, in this aspect (due to formulas and concept) mathematics and physics are intertwined, there is no way of separating them, causing a concept violating physics to violate mathematical laws, and vice versa.
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I'm back, sorreh for the late post:(


It's fine.
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It's fine.


Ridley will be back, just for future reference.
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ERIC CLAPTON IS A GOD.

REASON:LAYLA.
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Sjin: More than a Clown.

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No, it's called imaginary because no number can be squared to return a negative number; you would be forced to invent an entirely new number system- which someone did. I hold that equations could likely be solved with another formula, using strictly real numbers. Regarding faster than light, there is no reason a particle moving at that speed would somehow change formulas to include imaginary principles, and while there may not be mathematical objections (technically), there are physics objections, due to anything traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy, or no mass. Because, in this aspect (due to formulas and concept) mathematics and physics are intertwined, there is no way of separating them, causing a concept violating physics to violate mathematical laws, and vice versa.


The entirely new number system exists just as the irrational numbers were entirely new, but they exist as well. We invented the irrationals to square the circle. We invented the complex numbers to take the square root of negative numbers. The real numbers are either positive, negative, or zero. Any negative number multiplied by itself is positive, just as any positive number, and 0 squared is 0. No real number can be squared to arrive at a negative number. Thus, we came up with the complex numbers. But people didn't like that, and they called it imaginary. The imaginary numbers are no more imaginary than the irrational numbers are irrational--that is, not at all.
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The entirely new number system exists just as the irrational numbers were entirely new, but they exist as well. We invented the irrationals to square the circle. We invented the complex numbers to take the square root of negative numbers. The real numbers are either positive, negative, or zero. Any negative number multiplied by itself is positive, just as any positive number, and 0 squared is 0. No real number can be squared to arrive at a negative number. Thus, we came up with the complex numbers. But people didn't like that, and they called it imaginary. The imaginary numbers are no more imaginary than the irrational numbers are irrational--that is, not at all.


Untrue. Imaginaries don't have a place in real world mechanics, because the real world only deals with real concepts. Imaginaries take a concept that cannot even be done in numbers (without creating a new system), and because of the way that system is constructed, it cannot be achieved.
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ERIC CLAPTON IS A GOD.

REASON:LAYLA.


YES!!
I DID A COVER OF THAT SONG FOR MY GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE HER NAME SOUNDS SIMILAR AND IT WAS EPIC!!!
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Shinji:

*looks to Maddie*

We're going to destroy genesis. I need sjin to hack into his program drive and limit his powers, so we can destroy him. Let's just hope he hasn't gotten stronger...


This was to Mister Strange.
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>Be me
>Decide to turn Sjin into a philosopher for a post.
>Liz is the only one who answers.
>herewego.png
>She says exactly what Sjin said, only shorter.
>Uses Sjin's logic to try to debunk Sjin's logic.
>Was only trying to do that for some sort of comedic effect
>mfw I failed miserably
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>Be me
>Decide to turn Sjin into a philosopher for a post.
>Liz is the only one who answers.
>herewego.png
>She says exactly what Sjin said, only shorter.
>Uses Sjin's logic to try to debunk Sjin's logic.
>Was only trying to do that for some sort of comedic effect
>mfw I failed miserably


>Liz's statement is misinterpreted
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>Liz's statement is misinterpreted


Watchu mean? The way I'm reading it, she is saying the same thing as Sjin when he said basically everything's been seen or done.
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Watchu mean? The way I'm reading it, she is saying the same thing as Sjin when he said basically everything's been seen or done.


She's saying very, very little has been done. It's easy to make new events, because almost every universe is just a copy of another, while few are unique.
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She's saying very, very little has been done. It's easy to make new events, because almost every universe is just a copy of another, while few are unique.


I reread it with that explanation in mind and I'm still not getting that out of it.
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>Be me
>Decide to turn Sjin into a philosopher for a post.
>Liz is the only one who answers.
>herewego.png
>She says exactly what Sjin said, only shorter.
>Uses Sjin's logic to try to debunk Sjin's logic.
>Was only trying to do that for some sort of comedic effect
>mfw I failed miserably


Avis replied.
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Night.
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I reread it with that explanation in mind and I'm still not getting that out of it.


Except that's bogus, considering most experiences are extremely similar, and there are only a handful of truly unique paths of circumstance.

Most experiences are similar -> Most universes are copies
Only a handful of truly unique paths -> Most universes are copies

Ergo, it's easy to do something new when not much has been done.
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Night.


Night, laters.
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