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that makes sense, and i can understand how that works.
So for future reference, what would be considered swearing at the lowest level?


Lowest? Probably saying "Hell" without referencing the actual place.
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That's what you said you thought it was when I brought it up.


So you're saying you don't object to it, then?
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Lowest? Probably saying "Hell" without referencing the actual place.


Or piss.
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So you're saying you don't object to it, then?


I am 100% absolutely not saying that at all.

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Or piss.


Not swearing. Just an ugly word, really.
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Lowest? Probably saying "Hell" without referencing the actual place.


Ah ok.
Cause i like to use less offensive words like frick and crap in place of the worse end ones.
But i'll try to use those minimally then, since they could still be considered cuss words.
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Ah ok.
Cause i like to use less offensive words like frick and crap in place of the worse end ones.
But i'll try to use those minimally then, since they could still be considered cuss words.


I don't think any of us would really feel very uncomfortable with that; I use the latter myself on occasion, though not often. I do appreciate your consideration, though.
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I am 100% absolutely not saying that at all.

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Not swearing. Just an ugly word, really.


It always was where I grew up so just putting that out there.
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It always was where I grew up so just putting that out there.


That's fair.
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I am 100% absolutely not saying that at all.

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Not swearing. Just an ugly word, really.


Just asking, because we've all written characters who've killed before. I've written some that steal, we've all written liars, and I'm even writing an alcoholic right now. Having characters swear would be nothing in comparison to pretty much all of that, save lying, which can be argued.
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I don't think any of us would really feel very uncomfortable with that; I use the latter myself on occasion, though not often. I do appreciate your consideration, though.


No problem.
I'm generally a nice person so i don't mind keeping things civil.
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Just asking, because we've all written characters who've killed before. I've written some that steal, we've all written liars, and I'm even writing an alcoholic right now. Having characters swear would be nothing in comparison to pretty much all of that, save lying, which can be argued.


No, but there's a difference. One describes an action and another is doing it. Because words themselves are a part of language, you cannot go through the thought process of writing them without the actual "action" itself being a part of you. I can think about a murder without being a murderer. I can think about a liar without being a liar. I can't think of and reasonably portray someone who swears without swearing because of the fact that it utilizes language itself. If I have a character that would swear (Misty, really), I just put that as an action symbol with the word "Swears" as the action.
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No problem.
I'm generally a nice person so i don't mind keeping things civil.


Despite only being in the OOC thus far, you've done a good job. In MR, we try to be as kind as possible to each other because we're all friends.
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No, but there's a difference. One describes an action and another is doing it. Because words themselves are a part of language, you cannot go through the thought process of writing them without the actual "action" itself being a part of you. I can think about a murder without being a murderer. I can think about a liar without being a liar. I can't think of and reasonably portray someone who swears without swearing because of the fact that it utilizes language itself. If I have a character that would swear (Misty, really), I just put that as an action symbol with the word "Swears" as the action.


Lying also fits there. But I do know what you're saying. I just feel like some of the effect of these characters that are supposed to be super sinister is lost in mere diction.
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Lying also fits there. But I do know what you're saying. I just feel like some of the effect of these characters that are supposed to be super sinister is lost in mere diction.


You can write the lie someone says without lying, but you can't write the swear someone says without swearing. The way I have always seen it is through the fact that swearing doesn't seem intimidating or even intelligent. Villains can come up
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No, but there's a difference. One describes an action and another is doing it. Because words themselves are a part of language, you cannot go through the thought process of writing them without the actual "action" itself being a part of you. I can think about a murder without being a murderer. I can think about a liar without being a liar. I can't think of and reasonably portray someone who swears without swearing because of the fact that it utilizes language itself. If I have a character that would swear (Misty, really), I just put that as an action symbol with the word "Swears" as the action.


Pretty sure there was something about how thinking of something is as bad as doing it but idk.
And by extension of your point, using language at all is as bad as swearing because what one person considers a swear others might not. Take piss for example.

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Lying also fits there. But I do know what you're saying. I just feel like some of the effect of these characters that are supposed to be super sinister is lost in mere diction.


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There. That's basically the argument in a nutshell. Decide for yourself after watching that, since I couldn't word it as well. Plus it's entertaining.
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You can write the lie someone says without lying, but you can't write the swear someone says without swearing. The way I have always seen it is through the fact that swearing doesn't seem intimidating or even intelligent. Villains can come up


I feel like this post was cut off. Anyways, the whole point about having a villain who doesn't care at all is to show that they don't care at all. For them to use "replacement words" makes them seem contradictory. Plus, from time to time, when the need arises, I'll quote people and actually say the curse they used in whatever they said, since quoting isn't using your own words.
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Hi Tox, if you've looked here. Not sure if you have though.
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Pretty sure there was something about how thinking of something is as bad as doing it but idk.
And by extension of your point, using language at all is as bad as swearing because what one person considers a swear others might not. Take piss for example.

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There. That's basically the argument in a nutshell. Decide for yourself after watching that, since I couldn't word it as well. Plus it's entertaining.


It's about the state of the heart, a different issue.

Technically, the command is to say nothing that won't encourage and lift up others.

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I feel like this post was cut off. Anyways, the whole point about having a villain who doesn't care at all is to show that they don't care at all. For them to use "replacement words" makes them seem contradictory. Plus, from time to time, when the need arises, I'll quote people and actually say the curse they used in whatever they said, since quoting isn't using your own words.


I always considered it to be a case of swearing leads to nobody taking them seriously.
I see. I can't say I agree with your choice of actions to any extent. At the same time, I'm not here to make choices for you.
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Hi Tox, if you've looked here. Not sure if you have though.


yup, just did. I made a RP for a few of my roommates as a bonding exercise
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yup, just did. I made a RP for a few of my roommates as a bonding exercise


Really? Cool friends.
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