[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Dynamics]

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No I haven't, one sec

So if you just move the mod, no. But the config from regrowth has stuff that the mod's auto created config doesn't, so I think we just have to move the config from regrowth too.

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That people can't grasp the simple concept is insane to me. Like, at least with gender v sex I can understand why people are wrong, but the difference between asexuality and biological asexuality is like saltwater and freshwater. How is there confusion.

@DarkwolfX37

Please tell me you realize how pointed your wording is and that it's intentional.

[Multifarious]

Sorry, I was eating.

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I still don't consider it a sexuality at all. But if you want to destroy that argument, it's called "asexual reproduction" in biology.

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Quit two years ago, only have the app for MR archiving. No regrets.

@Dynamics

Yeah, but did you know that most humans have this tissue in their ears and eyes called an information filter? People are always absorbing information, so it's up to the information filter to send signals to the brain regarding the information. The brain sends a signal back, telling the filter to either accept or reject the information before the brain can even understand the information it is taking in! It's an amazing anomaly in the human body. But, sadly, some humans cannot fully develop this. It's so rare that it doesn't have a name, but its awful side effects include independent thought, rationality, high probability of intelligence, and creativity. It's a shame, really.

[Dynamics]

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Yeah, but did you know that most humans have this tissue in their ears and eyes called an information filter? People are always absorbing information, so it's up to the information filter to send signals to the brain regarding the information. The brain sends a signal back, telling the filter to either accept or reject the information before the brain can even understand the information it is taking in! It's an amazing anomaly in the human body. But, sadly, some humans cannot fully develop this. It's so rare that it doesn't have a name, but it's awful side effects include independent thought, rationality, high probability of intelligence, and creativity. It's a shame, really.

@Multifarious

I like this. Thumbs up.

[Multifarious]

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I like this. Thumbs up.

@Dynamics

Danke.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Please tell me you realize how pointed your wording is and that it's intentional.

@Dynamics

I think so? but it's not intentional.

[Dynamics]

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I think so? but it's not intentional.

@DarkwolfX37

It automatically assigns other beliefs as wrong.

[DarkwolfX37]

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It automatically assigns other beliefs as wrong.

@Dynamics

Probably because I'm using definitions? Saying that human asexuality and biological asexuality are the same or that one doesn't exist at all, classification as a sexuality aside, IS wrong. As is saying that sex and gender are the same thing. :/
Where is the issue here exactly?

[Darlit Glitch]

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I like this. Thumbs up.

@Dynamics

same.

[Balance]

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Probably because I'm using definitions? Saying that human asexuality and biological asexuality are the same or that one doesn't exist at all, classification as a sexuality aside, IS wrong. As is saying that sex and gender are the same thing. :/
Where is the issue here exactly?

@DarkwolfX37

I think it's that in Christianity, biological sex and gender role are identical and inseparable, but the idea that sex and gender are separate sends the message that to be a different gender from your sex is okay.
EDIT: By gender role, just to clarify, I don't actually mean "you're this gender so you have to do this"; I mean "this is what you are, although it doesn't necessarily have any connotations as to how you're supposed to act." After all, under my convictions I'm fine with a male who holds traditionally feminine traits and mannerisms, or a female who holds traditionally masculine traits and mannerisms.

[Dynamics]

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Probably because I'm using definitions? Saying that human asexuality and biological asexuality are the same or that one doesn't exist at all, classification as a sexuality aside, IS wrong. As is saying that sex and gender are the same thing. :/
Where is the issue here exactly?

@DarkwolfX37

Don't make that claim until the definition (inevitably) changes. "the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
'traditional concepts of gender'
synonyms: sex"

"Typically," but social and cultural reflect biological. But let's define male and female

'male
māl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that produces small, typically motile gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring."

"fe·male
ˈfēˌmāl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes."

[Multifarious]

[Balance]

@Multifarious

we're not going to get in an argument omq

[Multifarious]

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we're not going to get in an argument omq

@Balance

DON'T CRUSH MY DREAMS... Er, wait, uhh...
...
*Runs away while flailing my arms around*

[DarkwolfX37]

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I think it's that in Christianity, biological sex and gender role are identical and inseparable, but the idea that sex and gender are separate sends the message that to be a different gender from your sex is okay.

@Balance

Okay, so let me try to elaborate then to avoid that.
Sex: Based on chromosomes and reproductive cells, as David put.
Gender: The traits entwined with sex in a given society/culture.
Gender Identity: The only thing someone can actually affect: What gender someone wants applied to themself/does apply to themself and the traits with it.

So the confusion between gender and gender identity is an obviously common one and is a small part of the problem with SJWs. The one between sex and gender is since common usage they're interchanged, sort of like how "ironic" is used to mean something it doesn't actually mean.

I literally never thought of them being separate somehow meaning it is or isn't okay to have a different gender than sex. The problem with thinking that it's not okay, though, is that gender can't be controlled because it depends on the given society/culture. Boy to us and boy to ancient england or modern japan or any other society are different things, like how all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

I'm not sure if that'll make sense to anyone but me but meh.

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Don't make that claim until the definition (inevitably) changes. "the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
'traditional concepts of gender'
synonyms: sex"

"Typically," but social and cultural reflect biological. But let's define male and female

'male
māl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that produces small, typically motile gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring."

"fe·male
ˈfēˌmāl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes."

@Dynamics

The day a scientist who isn't a psychologist or sociologist uses gender in a study I'll concede. It'll never happen because they're different things.
Also, I like (genuinely like, not as in the facetious way. It's funny to me in a good way.) how you used "definitions change" and "typically needs to be noted" on the same side of a point.
Also the "societal reflects biological" is HIGHLY debatable, though I think I'd mostly be on the same side as you in that debate.

[Dynamics]

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Okay, so let me try to elaborate then to avoid that.
Sex: Based on chromosomes and reproductive cells, as David put.
Gender: The traits entwined with sex in a given society/culture.
Gender Identity: The only thing someone can actually affect: What gender someone wants applied to themself/does apply to themself and the traits with it.

So the confusion between gender and gender identity is an obviously common one and is a small part of the problem with SJWs. The one between sex and gender is since common usage they're interchanged, sort of like how "ironic" is used to mean something it doesn't actually mean.

I literally never thought of them being separate somehow meaning it is or isn't okay to have a different gender than sex. The problem with thinking that it's not okay, though, is that gender can't be controlled because it depends on the given society/culture. Boy to us and boy to ancient england or modern japan or any other society are different things, like how all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

I'm not sure if that'll make sense to anyone but me but meh.

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The day a scientist who isn't a psychologist or sociologist uses gender in a study I'll concede. It'll never happen because they're different things.
Also, I like (genuinely like, not as in the facetious way. It's funny to me in a good way.) how you used "definitions change" and "typically needs to be noted" on the same side of a point.
Also the "societal reflects biological" is HIGHLY debatable, though I think I'd mostly be on the same side as you in that debate.

@DarkwolfX37

It doesn't happen for the same reason they don't use "stuff" in a professional setting; it can be obscured and twisted because anything not absolutely specific can be minced. "Gender" is a significantly more casual term than biological "sex."

[Balance]

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Okay, so let me try to elaborate then to avoid that.
Sex: Based on chromosomes and reproductive cells, as David put.
Gender: The traits entwined with sex in a given society/culture.
Gender Identity: The only thing someone can actually affect: What gender someone wants applied to themself/does apply to themself and the traits with it.

So the confusion between gender and gender identity is an obviously common one and is a small part of the problem with SJWs. The one between sex and gender is since common usage they're interchanged, sort of like how "ironic" is used to mean something it doesn't actually mean.

I literally never thought of them being separate somehow meaning it is or isn't okay to have a different gender than sex. The problem with thinking that it's not okay, though, is that gender can't be controlled because it depends on the given society/culture. Boy to us and boy to ancient england or modern japan or any other society are different things, like how all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

I'm not sure if that'll make sense to anyone but me but meh.

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The day a scientist who isn't a psychologist or sociologist using gender in a study I'll concede. It'll never happen because they're different things.
Also, I like (genuinely like, not as in the facetious way. It's funny to me in a good way.) how you used "definitions change" and "typically needs to be noted" on the same side of a point.
Also the "societal reflects biological" is HIGHLY debatable, though I think I'd mostly be on the same side as you in that debate.

@DarkwolfX37

I totally get what you're saying. It's probably not impossible for a culture to form (although it hasn't) that has, say, five or six genders but two sexes. But from David's and my Christian perspective, God created two genders and two sex which correspond, and so culture and society are technically irrelevant. That's why "gender and sex are different is a fact" seems like a loaded sentence, even though I know you don't mean it to be.

[DarkwolfX37]

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I totally get what you're saying. It's probably not impossible for a culture to form (although it hasn't) that has, say, five or six genders but two sexes. But from David's and my Christian perspective, God created two genders and two sex which correspond, and so culture and society are technically irrelevant. That's why "gender and sex are different is a fact" seems like a loaded sentence, even though I know you don't mean it to be.

@Balance

Fair enough. I'll definitely take that reasoning.

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It doesn't happen for the same reason they don't use "stuff" in a professional setting; it can be obscured and twisted because anything not absolutely specific can be minced. "Gender" is a significantly more casual term than biological "sex."

@Dynamics

I'll bet you your future company that "stuff" gets used sooner than "gender." :P

[Dynamics]

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Fair enough. I'll definitely take that reasoning.

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I'll bet you your future company that "stuff" gets used sooner than "gender." :P

@DarkwolfX37

Done.

[Multifarious]

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Done.

@Dynamics

Uh-oh.

[Multifarious]

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The way I see it, if you try too hard to make life the absolute best that it can, you miss the things that actually make it worth improving in the first place.

@Multifarious

Relative to my current mood, this is poetry.
*Mwah*