[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Dynamics]

Zeal said
Yeah...

Just keep them as high as you need, and don't stress it.

[Zeal]

Dynamics said
Just keep them as high as you need, and don't stress it.

Yeah. I'll try.

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Zeal said
Yeah. I'll try.

Just don't take it too seriously.

[Zeal]

Dynamics said
Just don't take it too seriously.

Okay...

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Zeal said
Okay...

You okay, man?

[Zeal]

Dynamics said
You okay, man?

Yeah. It's just that my dad would most likely kill me if he saw my grades. Wouldn't blame him. I have a 35 in Spanish III.

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Zeal said
Yeah. It's just that my dad would most likely kill me if he saw my grades. Wouldn't blame him. I have a 35 in Spanish III.

Dang. But the year has just begun, so you'll be okay. Although I don't know if I can do much better in Spanish IV....

[whizzball1]

Dynamics said
Not possible. Everything within a small distance would have been instantly vaporized. When you do Internet research, you have to be careful about accountability of sources.

It was in my science book, not the internet. The scientists estimated that temperatures reached upwards of 2 trillion degrees. Also, apparently the ALICE project (a large ion collider experiment) actually reached 5.5 trillion degrees in August 2012 in an attempt to study Quark Gluon.

Multifarious said
Strange matter?????Questionmark??

Zeal said
My reaction also.

Bose-Einstein Condensate: A state of matter theorised by those two people, and achieved a few years ago. We cooled matter to a few billionths of a degree of Celsius above Absolute Zero. At that temperature, atoms began to lose their individual identities and start moulding together to make a smooth continuum. It wasn't perfectly smooth, of course; that's impossible. But yeah.

Quark-Gluon Plasma, otherwise known as quark soup: When matter reaches a temperature that the protons and neutrons actually split apart to reveal asymptotically free (woo I understand what that means thanks to you guys) quarks and gluons. Quarks you know about, and gluons are particles that, well, glue the quarks together.

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whizzball1 said
It was in my science book, not the internet. The scientists estimated that temperatures reached upwards of 2 trillion degrees. Also, apparently the ALICE project (a large ion collider experiment) actually reached 5.5 trillion degrees in August 2012 in an attempt to study Quark Gluon. Bose-Einstein Condensate: A state of matter theorised by those two people, and achieved a few years ago. We cooled matter to a few billionths of a degree of Celsius above Absolute Zero. At that temperature, atoms began to lose their individual identities and start moulding together to make a smooth continuum. It wasn't perfectly smooth, of course; that's impossible. But yeah.Quark-Gluon Plasma, otherwise known as quark soup: When matter reaches a temperature that the protons and neutrons actually split apart to reveal asymptotically free (woo I understand what that means thanks to you guys) quarks and gluons. Quarks you know about, and gluons are particles that, well, glue the quarks together.

Textbooks also say we evolved from monkeys. That temperature just isn't logical.

[whizzball1]

Dynamics said
Textbooks also say we evolved from monkeys. That temperature just isn't logical.

I found that reference on a scientific journal, not my textbook. Specifically, Nature.

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whizzball1 said
I found that reference on a scientific journal, not my textbook. Specifically, Nature.

Regardless, they can't measure that high, and only estimate. Which is likely going to be inaccurate. Plus, Vsauce did a vid about how past a certain temperature, heat may becomes nothing more than pure energy. An "absolute hot," so to speak. Logically, think about it. How likely is it that any amount of space can reach that temperature? And how logical is it to believe that it damaged nothing? Heat is a very fluid energy, and expands rapidly.

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Dynamics said
Regardless, they can't measure that high, and only estimate. Which is likely going to be inaccurate. Plus, Vsauce did a vid about how past a certain temperature, heat may becomes nothing more than pure energy. An "absolute hot," so to speak. Logically, think about it. How likely is it that any amount of space can reach that temperature? And how logical is it to believe that it damaged nothing? Heat is a very fluid energy, and expands rapidly.

Heat is not energy, nor does it expand. Heat is the measure of how fast a particle is moving. Thermal Energy is the sum total of all the kinetic energy of an object. So however fast the particles are moving, that'a how hot they are. Vsauce is wrong in this respect. As a substance gets "hotter", it's actually moving faster, which is why solid turns into liquid turns into gas, and hot gas expands more quickly than cold gas. As you get hotter, you get plasma, and eventually you can get so hot that the protons and neutrons rip themselves apart into quarks and gluons. Heat can't just become pure energy. Heat is simply the speed of atoms. Thermal Energy isn't even its own energy, if you think about it. It's just the total of the kinetic energy. And since according to the kinetic-molecular model, atoms are always in movement and can't not be moving (otherwise they won't be atoms) the kinetic energy can't just escape and turn into "pure energy". And even that is a misnomer. Energy is the ability to do work. In the case of kinetic energy, that work is movement.

Wow, that was long. TL;DR: "Absolute Hot" is impossible because heat is not energy.

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whizzball1 said
Heat is not energy, nor does it expand. Heat is the measure of how fast a particle is moving. Thermal Energy is the sum total of all the kinetic energy of an object. So however fast the particles are moving, that'a how hot they are. Vsauce is wrong in this respect. As a substance gets "hotter", it's actually moving faster, which is why solid turns into liquid turns into gas, and hot gas expands more quickly than cold gas. As you get hotter, you get plasma, and eventually you can get so hot that the protons and neutrons rip themselves apart into quarks and gluons. Heat can't just become pure energy. Heat is simply the speed of atoms. Thermal Energy isn't even its own energy, if you think about it. It's just the total of the kinetic energy. And since according to the kinetic-molecular model, atoms are always in movement and can't not be moving (otherwise they won't be atoms) the kinetic energy can't just escape and turn into "pure energy". And even that is a misnomer. Energy is the ability to do work. In the case of kinetic energy, that work is movement.Wow, that was long. TL;DR: "Absolute Hot" is impossible because heat is not energy.

"Temperature is a measure of the ability of a substance, or more generally of any physical system, to transfer heat energy to another physical system. The higher the temperature of an object is, the greater the tendency of that object to transfer heat."
Heat energy. The movement is kinetic energy, so yes, heat is energy.
Watch the Vsauce video before criticizing it. YouTube it.

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Dynamics said
"Temperature is a measure of the ability of a substance, or more generally of any physical system, to transfer heat energy to another physical system. The higher the temperature of an object is, the greater the tendency of that object to transfer heat."Heat energy. The movement is kinetic energy, so yes, heat is energy.Watch the Vsauce video before criticizing it. YouTube it.

"A temperature is a numerical measure of hot and cold. Its measurement is by detection of heat radiation, particle velocity, kinetic energy, or most commonly, by the bulk behavior of a thermometric material."

"Heating is transfer of energy, from a hotter body to a colder one, other than by work or transfer of matter. It occurs spontaneously whenever a suitable physical pathway exists between the bodies."

"Thermal energy is a term sometimes used to refer to the internal energy present in a system in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium by virtue of its temperature."

Heat is not energy. Scientists painstakingly stress that heat is not energy. It is the transfer of Thermal Energy--more accurately, kinetic energy--from one mass to another. I believe Vsauce was talking about thermal energy, but used heat for layman's terms. I'll watch it shortly.

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whizzball1 said
"A temperature is a numerical measure of hot and cold. Its measurement is by detection of heat radiation, particle velocity, kinetic energy, or most commonly, by the bulk behavior of a thermometric material.""Heating is transfer of energy, from a hotter body to a colder one, other than by work or transfer of matter. It occurs spontaneously whenever a suitable physical pathway exists between the bodies.""Thermal energy is a term sometimes used to refer to the internal energy present in a system in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium by virtue of its temperature."Heat is energy. Scientists painstakingly stress that heat is not energy. It is the transfer of Thermal Energy--more accurately, kinetic energy--from one mass to another. I believe Vsauce was talking about thermal energy, but used heat for layman's terms. I'll watch it shortly.

This just isn't worth arguing about.

[whizzball1]

Dynamics said
This just isn't worth arguing about.

It isn't. How did we get here from talking about cool states of matter? o3o

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whizzball1 said
It isn't. How did we get here from talking about cool states of matter? o3o

Speaking of arguments, I asked my calculus teacher, who took engineering level math studies in college, and she said that .99999... is less than one, and that .333333... isn't equal to 1/3.

[whizzball1]

Dynamics said
Speaking of arguments, I asked my calculus teacher, who took engineering level math studies in college, and she said that .99999... is less than one, and that .333333... isn't equal to 1/3.

I figured that last one out. And that's only once you leave the realm of real numbers and start dealing with surreals, which are a step above hyperreals. Or maybe it starts at hyperreals. Which does calc deal with?

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whizzball1 said
I figured that last one out. And that's only once you leave the realm of real numbers and start dealing with surreals, which are a step above hyperreals. Or maybe it starts at hyperreals. Which does calc deal with?

Whichever ones don't use that terminology.