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Expressing interest: Would be interested in making a general character (May or may not have magic, need more sleep and shit to think about it.
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Heh, this is why I ask. Sorry for delaying your bedtime by a half hour, I know it always just goes nooooooo why'd I have to look when I'm about ready for bed. So glad you did though. :)

I wasn't too sure about how well the gods were supposed to be known or fleshed out or physically present in this world, Lacchi's generally not a big part of the pantheon as I know it, nor overly interested in being godly(the trickster characteristics are very much present), so I usually find that he can manage interactions as a dog fairly well. And, where the magic allows, I would give him telepathy or reverse, uncontrollable kinda-werewolfism... But! that is for another time. I don't need him for this, since I already wasn't sure, and the point about making a god being a rather sweeping generalisation, whoops, did not think about that. My bad. I'm not entirely certain how he entirely missed the point of the rp, though?

The suggestion to just play an intelligent animal, I could certainly go for. And more questions coming your way, heh. If this doesn't turn out, I'll either just play a dog or go for that jester position. See if I can't pull that off. I like fools. Or some other person. Who is not fourlegged. :P

I have an idea that sounds a bit similar to winter wolves, large wolf-like creature, lives in pairs or packs and protects those theybond with, along with their territory. I say bond because it's a little more than human with dog, but a human and a dog could probably manage the same level of closeness if they really wanted to. Dunno. Anyway, they look like giant wolves, but have been tamed by the natives of the archipelago, might still be in the process of domestication though, but a king might like to have one nearby. They are roughly of the same intelligence as a dog, but probably with a greater capacity to learn human things, and can communicate through images. (though that probably doesn't fit well with the magic here, I don't think...)

Yep...
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I'm a little concerned. In this game, your relationship with the king and your motivation for revenge really should be at the heart of your character. Exotic races are fine and dandy, but only if they serve some kind of purpose. If you really only wanted to play a wolf, for example, roleplaygateway has tons of wolf pack games (and I don't mean this to be derogatory in any way). If you really only wanted to play a magical beast of some sort, there's no need to restrain yourself to dogs and wolves - you can play a three-headed pink giraffe if you want (if you can convince me it's not a joke character, that is - this isn't that kind of game!).

My issue with the three-eyed wolf-thing is that I'm not seeing a strong theme, and I'm not seeing the underlying reasons you want to play this thing, except that it lets you play a dog-like creature that still has a convenient way to speak to the party. I can imagine a hundred ways any of these things could be done well, but I have no idea what you're trying to achieve. I have a creeping suspicion we're not on the same page at all, but I'll await your reply before I make any hasty assumptions.
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Edit: Whoops, it seems like my attempts to post my interest last night while the post thing wasn't working all ended up eventually going through....
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Don't worry, I already requested the deletion of the last five.
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So, Maxwell, right now my ideas are as follows: 1.) A high priestess of some kind, one with enough political and religious clout to have been a close, personal friend of the king, 2.) A spymistress as opposed to a spymaster, though I'd defer to your judgment as to whether or not an idea like this is viable in your setting, 3.) A royal assassin with some connection to the late king. Let me know your thoughts, and I'll see what I can do.
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All three of those work fine. The king appoints whomsoever he wishes, baby. Additionally, if the capital city (and surrounding towns, I suppose) need to be reasonably equal for your background to work, then they will be.

In general, the kingdom's policies will depend on which characters join the game. If you play high priestess of god X and bffs with the king, then god X is what the king will worship as well. Unless it's something unkingly, like a god of parliamentary democracies. That wouldn't work.
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I was thinking the god of orgies, drinking blood, and slaughtering children. That's okay, right? =P
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I would actually be fine with that, if it weren't for the fact that I think I've implied some moral ambiguity in this game. I don't think people came into this expecting that kind of game.
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Bah, no fun. Anyways, I'm assuming you want us to hold off on making CSes until the actual OOC goes up? I'm thinking I'll probably just go with the royal assassin. Probably.
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Feel 100% free to write one now if you prefer. I'm going to paste them on the first page of the OOC anyway. Much more convenient than links, I think, so long as there are hiders.

Oh, and as to that talk about turning something into a dog, I just remembered I didn't address that. As it says up there, a wizard could theoretically do anything, but in reality their powers are very limited. Turning a human into a dog, for example, would involve describing all the internal workings and the exact appearance of a human, all the internal workings and exact appearance of a dog, as well as the process whereby one turns into the other. It's questionable whether all the magical terms involved are even known to all the wizards in the world, collectively, and there is certainly not a single wizard who could speak them all without stopping to draw breath. In fact, it would be a lot easier to turn a human into, say, gold, since that only involves a single kind of atom in the latter part of the spell. Still basically impossible, though.

Not that you need to be a chemist to play a wizard. A passing familiarity with high school science should be more than enough - just fill the blanks in with pulp. Just remember that the more complex and powerful a substance, reaction, item, etc is, the more words it takes to describe. A skilled enough wizard might be able to turn a human into what looks like a dog through a series of thousands of small changes, each sustainable (if unspeakably agonizing to live through) on its own, but if you cut that creature open, it probably wouldn't look like a dog on the inside. Kind of like that movie, Walrus, but with magic.
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I would want to play a martial artist warrior of Ki that prones non-violence (But will defend himself as needed) and would be a more "Sane" adviser. Why he was taken in? Well, he is one of the very few people who manipulate Ki in a way most cannot understand and it was the price for his people so that they were not slaughtered by the King. My character would have willingly surrendered his freedom if it meant that he would let his people live under his rule.

Sounds like a good premise?
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Rayn Knight: Not impossible, but:

1) Try not to step on the actual spellcasters' toes too much when creating your ki powers. It was very much intended to be an internal power that allows you to bend metal, hold your breath for hours, walk on water - basically, if you can imagine a rogue/barbarian/knight going 'meh, I can do that with sheer skill/toughness/willpower', you're right on the money. Try to avoid laser beams and such.

2) Why does your character care about the king dying, when the man held his entire people hostage?

Hank: No complaints.
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I'll take that as a compliment.
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1)Well, it wouldn't be spellcasting at all (At least not for now, maybe later in a more simple term of energy (Nothing crazy either)). He would simply be able to be physically stronger, faster and tougher than he looks, but not to the point of being godly. (Just a lot more powerful than people believe him to be.

2) Well, he could talk to the King and he KNEW the king wouldn't harm them... But if someone else comes along, this protection isn't valid anymore
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It's not derogatory, it's true, however, most wolf rps out there, yes, I have looked once or twice ;), are less realistic than I'd like them to be. But not for this character.

Personally, I'm an avid fan of realism within fantastical settings, and I do understand your misgivings. If I cannot convince you with this post that I'm not just trying to play a wolf/dog/exotic monster, then I will happily leave it lie and play something else if you'll have the more ordinary character I create then.

Honestly, and this is probably a bad place to start, I am bringing this character forward from other roleplays I have written with him, because I do want to play him again and there are not a lot of giant, three-eyed dog rps out there. But the Anan(as I call them) were not created to be played with others of their kind, they were made to interact with humans or human-like characters. I am not bringing him forward just because I want to play him, but because, to me, it seemed like a good fit. Admittedly, I could be wrong, I'm not infallible, but I read the IC introduction of a character staring at the dead king while fighting goes on in other places and felt that well, honestly, that'd be a great introduction to a pig considering the king landed on the pigpen, but it could also encompass, as I'm sure you were aware, any number of character species, thoughts, emotions and reactions.

Now, to me, a canine's relationship with anything or one is going to be at the heart of the character no matter what. Every character should be shaped by their surroundings, but a dog is going to reflect those surroundings far more readily on the outside than most humans, if violence has been done, then violence or fear will be the reaction. As the Anan are large animals, there'd be less fear involved. As an Anan and not 'just a dog'(there's some really incredible dogs out there *cough*) he'd have the ability to look, see and guage for himself where best to put his anger to use. And if other characters want to temper his actions and put him to even better use, they could well use him as a meatshield, or hold him back for surprise purposes. That would be up to them.

The reason I believe he'd be motivated to react poorly against the invaders is because, if he has been a part of the king's pack for awhile, as he'd see it, then they've just killed the king. He'd have felt it was his obligation to protect the king and he'd be sorely upset that he did not manage it. But he'd also, as a member of the king's pack, see the others who were close to the king as people to listen to and stand beside. Because they still exist, the territory still exists, and if their territory still exists then they should chase the invaders off it. And because he did not manage to protect the king, he'd be extra motivated to protect everyone else, once he's aware of them anyway, his first reaction would be to attack the first enemy soldiers he finds. Yes, it's not quite the we do this for vengeance, I hate your guts, Bernard of Ghant rally that might motivate a character to do impossible things. But he would, rather, be doing it out of a sense of loyalty to those characters the king has shown he, maybe loved is too strong a word, but wanted around him, and out of loyalty to a place the king gave to him to protect.

What I think this character would offer to this particular rp is in the first instance, a creature that could be used by the others to accomplish their ends if they need something of the sort. He is only a smart dog, if they see him as expendable, then he's expendable. If they see him as a glorified messanger, he can be a messenger. If they seem him as a valuable member of this revenge business, then he might well be that too. He'd also be more a protector of them than of their interests, which might help them stay alive long enough to accomplish what both he and they want accomplished. His goal would be to make the soldiers leave and likely to kill their leader because that is what they did to his leader, and while reciprocation won't win the king back, it might cement the idea that they need to leave.

If this is of any use in helping you understand where I'm coming from, great, if not, I shall try something else. No sweat. Thanks for being patient with me.

EDIT: Also, thanks for that further explanation of the magic as pertains to the dog thing. I get it now. I was simplifying things a little in my head. Cool. I like this magic.
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