[OOC] The New Empires

[LancerDancer]

The Insula isn't attending any party, m'fraid, owing to civil strife and a nationwide emergency. Maybe next time?

[Peace Keeper]

There'll be no next time, as per the letters notice.

[Goldeagle1221]

Next birthday? Hm, I'm uncertain if Marmon will ever be invited back considering the letters failure to be read by Jeffsoff and instead by bandits.

Also, Peacekeeper, feel free to initiate the party whenever ready.

[Peace Keeper]

I'm waiting so that everyone will have their turn to reply. ^^

Oh yeah, uh... I hope they won't be surprised by royal guard everywhere.

[TheSovereignGrave]

That'd hardly be a surprise. Though I hope your ruler isn't to surprised by the fact that the Grand Prince is going to just ignore that suggestion about not bringing weapons. After all, his son is going. And so are two possible heirs of his, but that's not as important.

EDIT: God, Lancer; I want to punch Marcus in the face so hard. Which is a good thing.

[Peace Keeper]

Well, according to the letter... It was a request, not something necessary. However depending on the amount of 'weapons' you bring you'll be in quite the lot of hassle.

[Goldeagle1221]

Jim and Will(or should I say Jeffsoff and Edwin) are gonna be bare, and quite regal looking. Here is to free food!

[Feigling]

Dinh AaronMk said
Well yippy-yay!

This is true Vegas-style music

[Monkeypants]

Marcus might be beneficial to my goals.. hmmmmmm

[TheSovereignGrave]

Okay, I think it's time for feigling to actually make decision. Is the map we have the entirety of the actual world (and sailing across the western edge would put you on the eastern edge) or is it just the known world with large tracts of ocean in either direction? Because if it's the latter, I don't see why a ship from North-Eastern Frisstreek would be traveling through Naaru waters to get to Manram.

EDIT: And if this has already been stated, please excuse my stupid question.

[Goldeagle1221]

Great question.

[mpjama2]

Aight, I'd like to explain my reasoning for going after Sara's ship in particular. For one, I wanted to do something interesting, I.E not just sink some random merchant vessel. Secondly, Naaru influence does not end at their borders. While that may mark the end of where they live, just like all of your nations, one can send out scouting parties beyond one's borders. Even the waters of North Eastern Fristreek aren't terribly far away, but few would have reason to go that far. Since the leader of the scouting party seeks a really impressive ship to sink, it would be reasonable that they would go out farther than they normally would. So even if the ship was not circumnavigating the globe, it would make sense for the ship to be attacked. What wouldn't make sense is me claiming its under the Naaru Dominion under the second heading. I'll change it (or not) whenever Fiegling makes a decision if this is just the old world or not.

[Peace Keeper]

The fun thing with underwater people is that they're impossible to counter or attack on their home ground, considering the age which this RP is set. They're like that territorial killer shark that attacks everything inside, or close by his territory.

[TheSovereignGrave]

On the flip side, his people can't really do anything on land.

Though I do find it kinda strange that it's been so long and they've never met a single person from the surface. I mean, I'm certain people have been fishing in their waters for centuries.

EDIT: Wait... What are those spears made of? I can't see the people having invented metal forging and I can't see a bunch of bone/stone spears managing to tear sizable holes in a ship's hull that easily.

[Peace Keeper]

That's the mystery, isn't it?
Oh well, as long as they're not in my waters.

[Goldeagle1221]

Well, it'd be hard for a regular land spear to pierce a ships bottom hull with such an impact as to flood the lower level.

[Peace Keeper]

It'd be hard for any sort of weapon.
Except siege engines.

[mpjama2]

TheSovereignGrave said
On the flip side, his people can't really do anything on land.Though I do find it kinda strange that it's been so long and they've never met a single person from the surface. I mean, I'm certain people have been fishing in their waters for centuries.EDIT: Wait... What are those spears made of? I can't see the people having invented metal forging and I can't see a bunch of bone/stone spears managing to tear sizable holes in a ship's hull that easily.

Alright, maybe this is due to my failure to explain the nature of the merfolk through my IC posts, but there are quite a few reasons as to why merfolk aren't familiar with the surface world. First and foremost is that the ocean is a very much 3-dimensional territory. In the ocean, one can go several miles above or below someone else without noticing the other. And since the merfolk have problems seeing in sunlight, they would rather remain deeper in the ocean. Only the truly desperate go to look for fish near the surface. So as nations prosper and fish more, there is less fish to go around, and thus more merfolk get more desperate to get closer to the surface of the ocean.

Secondly, the racial memory of the merfolk is astoundingly low. Since this race is meant to more resemble fish than mammals, the maximum lifespan of a merfolk is 20 years. The oldest Merfolk would barely remember the Clinton Presidency, whereas the oldest humans can remember F.D.R's term of office and even earlier than that. Considering the fact the only way for these people to even remember the extremely rare ship encounters is written records (which in this time period, few could read and write) combined with the fact these people have never been unified until extremely recently, one can assume that no organized effort was taken against ships until now. While a few broods may have sunk a ship at one point, the broods historically don't last very long, a few years at most, thus losing a lot of records of what even happened. Those on the surface attributed lost ships to storms and pirates, both were common for the time period.

Alright, if we compound the fact that ship-encounters are rare, with the fact that most encounters are forgotten to the race at large due to: illiteracy, lack of government, and short life-spans then it seems quite reasonable that until now that ships were relatively unknown.

Also, about the spears. They are bone yes, but in all honesty bone is stronger than wood. I did double-check to make sure, and bone surprisingly does have a higher ultimate tensile strength than wood. If you account for the fact that these guys charged at the ship from below, it is not too unreasonable that they were able to break the hull. I don't think they would be able to if they didn't charge, and besides a few guys with buckets can handle the leaking of the ship for now.

[Monkeypants]

Either way you look at it, that ship is boned.

[Goldeagle1221]

Monkeypants said
Either way you look at it, that ship is boned.

Ha! I like it.