[OOC] Rabbit Doubt: The Vacation Murders

[Shy]

ImANargleHunter said
My first thought was that Nex was Drakel's colleague of some sort. So a role similar to cop.

Shy said
In defense of Nex: Lets assume Nex is right in that he is NOT the wolf. He is saying that we will regret it if we lynch him. Since we are assuming he isn't the wolf and that he isn't bluffing this would mean that his role is clearly important. Like I've stated before, [b]he was constantly mentioned alongside Drakel, whom we know to be a Cop. What role would go hand in hand with Cop? Detective quite logically. After all, Detectives are a part of the police force so it would make sense if him and Drakel were friends.Though he'd be a pretty crappy one to not notice his partner missing [b]

It has been put on the table as an option

[Seravee]

natsumehack said
SO in other words, a person who makes sense to back stab drakel.

I would not jump to the conclusion that association means killer and victim, as there are a number of logical reasons. They could be colleagues. They could be lovers. If they are colleagues, we are risking a lot by axing Nex right now.

Also, a note - it might be a good idea for us to hold off on assigning roles right now. Remember, every time we post "x could the detective, y could be the protector," we are putting a giant target on their back for the killers who are looking to hit us the hardest. I know it is sometimes unavoidable, but just be cautious.

I'm going to read over this again before I submit my vote. I know first votes are always tough, because even if there are loads of clues, we don't have another post to compare it to yet. Besides, Squee is smart. She won't give it away in the first post.

Which reminds me, I apologize for the delay, Squee.

[Shy]

Seravee said
They could be lovers.

#Shoxxie4life

I've noticed Nat has been pretty aggressive towards Nex...

[Shy]

And just as an FYI if Shoxxie turns out to not be a thing, I'll be crushed.

[Seravee]

The three businessmen are interesting to me, but not necessarily suspicious. They're all dressed the same, which would lead me to suggest they are connected in some way. Furthermore, they already know each other before this all went down. I wouldn't put it past Squee to make a third killer, but I don't think she would tie them together like this.

What is it that people find so suspicious? Their attire? The "weighing the pros and cons" bit?

I'm not so sure that suits mean much of anything right now. And who wouldn't discuss whether or not they should leave the bus?

Maybe I'm glossing over something important, but it strikes me odd that Squee would be so obvious in her first post.

I know from my own experience that it is much easier (and more fun) to have the killers be background characters in the first post.

[Shy]

Seravee said
The three businessmen are interesting to me, but not necessarily suspicious. They're all dressed the same, which would lead me to suggest they are connected in some way. Furthermore, they already know each other before this all went down. I wouldn't put it past Squee to make a third killer, but I don't think she would tie them together like this. What is it that people find so suspicious? Their attire? The "weighing the pros and cons" bit?I'm not so sure that suits mean much of anything right now. And who wouldn't discuss whether or not they should leave the bus?Maybe I'm glossing over something important, but it strikes me odd that Squee would be so obvious in her first post.I know from my own experience that it is much easier (and more fun) to have the killers be background characters in the first post.

Idea: Kill a buisnessman. If any of them are killers hopefully we hit the right one. If we kill one and it turns out he WAS a mason, then we know the others are masons too.

That being said I'm still suspicious of K-97 and Nat. The loners.

[Foxxie]

Shy said
And just as an FYI if Shoxxie turns out to not be a thing, I'll be crushed.

It will always be a thing in my heart.

I'm not in favor of killing one of the businessmen, but if it proves conclusively whether or not they're Masons, then I suppose I can vote for them. Besides, that sounds like it might be a safe lynching vote that people will be willing to go with, rather than this slightly tapering interest in Nex. The only question is, which one of the businessmen? Shall we just pick one at random and focus all of our votes on them?

[Shy]

Foxxie said
It will always be a thing in my heart.I'm not in favor of killing one of the businessmen, but if it proves conclusively whether or not they're Masons, then I suppose I can vote for them. Besides, that sounds like it might be a safe lynching vote that people will be willing to go with, rather than this slightly tapering interest in Nex. The only question is, which one of the businessmen? Shall we just pick one at random and focus all of our votes on them?

Like the names get shipped together so well.

I don't think there would be any other way but random choice if we go with the buisnessman approach. Its just blind shooting.

[Seravee]

Foxxie said
It will always be a thing in my heart.I'm not in favor of killing one of the businessmen, but if it proves conclusively whether or not they're Masons, then I suppose I can vote for them. Besides, that sounds like it might be a safe lynching vote that people will be willing to go with, rather than this slightly tapering interest in Nex. The only question is, which one of the businessmen? Shall we just pick one at random and focus all of our votes on them?

I hadn't thought about that. I hate to blind vote first round, but sometimes there isn't much more we can do. If it possibly reveals more information, it might be worth it.

[Rilla]

I went to call my girl, I won't be seeing her until later next month. :P

So, the businessmen are on the table? For a reason that can be applied to just about everyone.

dontkillmeplox

[Seravee]

Rilla said
I went to call my girl, I won't be seeing her until later next month. :PSo, the businessmen are on the table? For a reason that can be applied to just about everyone.dontkillmeplox

I would not support killing a businessman merely because I don't know who they are, as your post seems to imply. Rather, I would only support killing one if it revealed some sort of new information. If we killed one, we might be able to figure out who the other two are.

I'm still hesitant, however, because I'm not sure what negative role the businessmen could play. I don't think they're killers. I'm not entirely sure how the masons idea will work in this game.

[Foxxie]

For me, it's between killing Nex (who could be the killer, or could be a partner to the cop role) or killing a businessmen (which could tell us if there's Masons in this game and, if so, would ensure that we don't target the other two).

The businessmen sound better from an information standpoint at the moment, but killing them likely won't be knocking out our snake or our wolf. I guess it depends on how we want to play this game. Do we want to attempt to only shoot for our killers (as it is in an ideal Doubt) or do we want to make sacrifices to better reveal the landscape?

[Rilla]

It seems like a pointless kill. At least, any kill you make can better reveal the landscape. I reckon there is the same chance of you not getting any information from killing a businessman as there is from you killing say... that Nex guy.

Of course, I'm more likely to comb over it and go for the killer than for some information I may or may not get. Wasted votes and all.

#KillTheKiller
#BusinessShouldGrow

[K-97]

Foxxie said
For me, it's between killing Nex (who could be the killer, or could be a partner to the cop role) or killing a businessmen (which could tell us if there's Masons in this game and, if so, would ensure that we don't target the other two). The businessmen sound better from an information standpoint at the moment, but killing them likely won't be knocking out our snake or our wolf. I guess it depends on how we want to play this game. Do we want to attempt to only shoot for our killers (as it is in an ideal Doubt) or do we want to make sacrifices to better reveal the landscape?

I think of it like this, anytime we lynch a good guy, the Wolf gets one step closer to killing us all. If we have a chance of murdering the Wolf this early in the game then we should take it. Stalling only plays into the Wolf's hands.

[Seravee]

K-97 said
I think of it like this, anytime we lynch a good guy, the Wolf gets one step closer to killing us all. If we have a chance of murdering the Wolf this early in the game then we should take it. Stalling only plays into the Wolf's hands.

But in lynching Nex, we could be lynching something more than a vanilla townie, like a detective. That would really hurt us.

Which puts us in the awkward position of having to choose a life over another. Do we kill the businessman, because a potential detective role is more valuable to us? Or do we risk the possible detective to save the businessman and possibly hit the killer?

To be honest, I'm not married to Nex or a businessman. I can go either way.

[K-97]

Seravee said
But in lynching Nex, we could be lynching something more than a vanilla townie, like a detective. That would really hurt us.Which puts us in the awkward position of having to choose a life over another. Do we kill the businessman, because a potential detective role is more valuable to us? Or do we risk the possible detective to save the businessman and possibly hit the killer?To be honest, I'm not married to Nex or a businessman. I can go either way.

Risk is what this is all about. It's in the name. I say we take it as to be honest all these choices are assisting the Wolf so I'd rather take the chance to win right now.

[Seravee]

Arg. I guess so. First posts are so hard for me. I need to draw parallels between posts.

[Foxxie]

Call it Squee-Doubt paranoia, but I don't think she'd hand us Nex on a sliver platter like this. The more I've been mulling over this, it just seems like we might be aiming for someone important because red herrings are what this game's all about.

I dunno. I might just be over thinking it and losing my nerve. I'll have to cast my vote soon.

[K-97]

Nargle just voted for Shy...

WTF is going on. If anything he's probably one of the few on everyone's good lists.

[Seravee]

Foxxie said
Call it Squee-Doubt paranoia, but I don't think she'd hand us Nex on a sliver platter like this. The more I've been mulling over this, it just seems like we might be aiming for someone important because red herrings are what this game's all about.I dunno. I might just be over thinking it and losing my nerve. I'll have to cast my vote soon.

That's what I was thinking too. You don't normally bring killers into the limelight like this.