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January 31st, 2005

Hello, all of you adorable little lambs! I'm happy to welcome all of you to the Fifth Grail War for the 726th Holy Grail! Taking into consideration your previous inquiries and status as magi, we believe you to be fully qualified to participate in this wonderful little event. Now, keep in mind that while you are putting your life on the line, that's the daily routine of any magus, riiight~? Using your life as a bargaining chip to get your hands on something even better! So, since you've all accepted, you will summon a Servant and fight to the death with six other magi across the world for a chance to actualize that wonderful little glimmer of light you call a 'miracle'!

Oh, right, I almost forgot to mention: as usual, there are some...abnormalities in this Grail War 'cause I felt like tinkering with the system a bit. I mean, that system the Einzberns were using was so...outdated, it was gross and dusty and really needed a tune-up for the 21st Century, so you're welcome. On the downside that might cause a few weird phenomena here and there, but don't let that worry you! Just focus on the prize in front of you!

Don't forget to stop by the Church after you've summoned your Servant! Mr. Overseer needs to mark you down as having registered, after all~

Welcome to Eunoia, the Sublime Visions of the Eye of God.

Do try and make this entertaining for me, will you~?

Love,
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Fuyuki City shall be your battleground.



The Emiya Residence, Tohsaka Mansion, Einzbern Castle, and Matou Mansion are all abandoned. That said, feel free to make them your base, if you're so inclined. Just be wary.

Also, please begin all posts with the following format: [Name of Character, Sub-Area, Map Location]. For instance, [Emiya Shirou, Kitchen, Emiya Residence]. It makes keeping track of things easier for everyone. Also be rational about travel times between areas.











Rules


1. No godmodding, no controlling people's characters, no autohitting, no doing things you shouldn't be able to do. You guys should know this.

2. Have fun and don't be a bully.

3. This is a TYPE-Moon Roleplay, so we go by TM mechanics. That means stuff won't be allowed if it contradicts the universe's rules.

4. You are not always right, and your character is not Yamato Jesus.

5. No Masters with guns. It's too easy.

6. Metagaming will result in punishment. Please don't do it.







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Wait up didn't Heracles have A+ strength? That's what it said on the VN servant menu. Never knew he had B rank strength in actuality. I also though Saber had A rank strength under Rin and B rank under Shiro but could power it to an effective A rank with Prana burst.
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Herc had B+, A+ with Mad Enhancement, but his base parameter was B+. Modifiers are temporary, ranks are permanent. His rank is B with a modifier.

The "Saber can Prana Burst from B to A" is fanon. Prana Burst doesn't make her parameters better, it's what gives her the parameters she has. Without it, her STR and whatnot are all "1". I'll get the VN quote when I'm back at my dorm if you want, on my phone now.

But yeah, it takes a girl with a dragon powering her and Rin-level Master support to hit A rank STR. Herc, who is Herc, with the best possible Master and a Western Europe summon, gets a rank of B.

Base A rank STR is hard to get. You can get it through boosts like Natural Body or Mad Enhancement, but at base? Really hard.
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Grey's decided he feels like Rider, so that's now reserved.
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Lol wtf? I was under the impression that his strength was A+, I mean it would make sense since Kojiro has A+ agility for a mid tier spirit without any form of mad enhancement and Hercules is practically the strongest heroic spirit I can think of. I also didn't think Mad Enhancement was factored in when shown on the VN stat sheets, or else Cu Chulainn would basically have the same strength as Hercules then. Rin Saber's stat sheet in the VN also had her base strength clearly at A. I also thought prana burst was an activated personal skill and wasn't shown on the stat sheets, which is why her stat sheets for both Shirou and Rin had the same rank for Prana burst but different stats.
I'm so confused lol.
I'm gonna go ahead and take Archer then.
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Let's Go On A Date! said So here's what I found out today. One, do not gamble with Saber.
Two, a rule where the winner is the one to have ten more hits than the opponent can end up in an infinite hell if the ones playing are at about the same level.
And lastly, Saber is physically weaker than us if she does not use her magical energy.


Without Prana Burst, Saber's just a weak teenage girl. Prana Burst is what lets her fight on par with everyone else. Rin!Saber has A rank STR because Rin's a better Master than Shirou. Or more accurately, because she's an excellent Master and is capable of maxing out Saber as a Servant. If you're not a good enough Master, for instance Shirou or Kotomine, then your Servant will be weaker than they would be otherwise.



But yeah, Cu and Herc have the same STR rank, though Herc has a modifier, and Not!Kojiro has a higher AGI than base Herc. Servants =/= Heroic Spirits. The Servant is generally a nerfed version of the Heroic Spirit. First they're limited by virtue of being a half-rate copy, then by the Grail system, then by the Class system, then by being crammed into a spiritual core. In that way, Herc who lifted the heavens and Francis Drake are able to be put on the same "scale". In the case of stronger Heroic Spirits like Herc, the Servant won't live up to the hype.

If you're still having some trouble understanding, let me know.

You're now marked down for Ahchah.
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OH SHIT THATS WHAT THOSE YELLOW BARS WERE?
I never knew lol damn.
But I always though Saber had base stats matching other spirits and it was just that her Prana burst was a good stat booster temporarily. I mean, it is a personal skill that never changes rank so I thought it was a short power boost.
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Nah, it's the cause of her stats. Prana Burst is actually a Phantasm Race skill, it's something that members of the Phantasm Races like Medusa's pegasus have innately.

…No, its defense is already at the level of the dragon race. Because that Pegasus has divine protection exceeding even Saber, who has the strongest magic resistance. Its charge, emitting vast amounts of magical energy, is like a giant castle wall approaching. There is no possible way to dodge or defend against such a thing.


Prana Burst is something natural to the Phantasmal Species. Every time they attack, they're using their prana burst skill. So if you don't use that intrinsic skill, you won't get to that level. Saber gets that thanks to the dragon, but without it she's physically weaker than Shirou and Rin.
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So I was wondering whether I could do the "modern weaponry as heroic spirits" thing with the grail granting a body and soul for the representation of a legend regarding a modern weapon like a machine gun like how the grail made a wraith Kojiro out of records of legends.
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Q: If there are Heroic Spirits like Archer, who was summoned independent of time axis, is it possible for warriors from the future, who are loaded with modern weapons, to be summoned as Servants?

A: Although modern weapons are powerful, it is difficult for the users of modern weapons to be classified as Heroic Spirits. The advantage of modern weapons is "anyone can use them as long as they were trained", thus it is difficult for the user to become a Heroic Spirit, whose definition is "the one and only". The users of modern weapons are faceless heroes. If there are indeed heroes who are loaded with modern weapons, the users will not become Heroic Spirits, as they are merely "experts anyone can achieve through sufficient training". The actual Heroic Spirits being worshiped will be the "greatest weapon of that era". However, for the weapon to become a Heroic Spirit in this case, it must harbour a soul.


Nope. Sorry.
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Bummer, I always laughed at what would happen if such servants were allowed.
Heroic spirit AK47 lol.
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I'll just be making a Master, I've decided. They're coming sometime today~
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Alrighty~
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How were the Masters for this war selected?

How much prep time did they each get?

When does the War start?
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General Marks of the Chosen business, nothing out of the ordinary. The letter at the top of the OOC is just for flavor, nobody actually received anything of the sort. Got the mark, wanted to participate for whatever reason you give them, shuttled off to Fuyuki.

No prep time in Fuyuki. You walk in with whatever you carried in your suitcase. No bases or Bounded Fields already made, unless they exist in Fuyuki ahead of time in canon like the one on the Temple.

We begin on the morning of January 31st, 2005. You can start wherever you like, but at the beginning of the RP no Servants have been summoned yet. In theory, you're free to try and take a Master out before they summon their Servant.
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If we're all arriving on the same day, wouldn't it be really awkward if there were just seven magus in one plane?

Would any of us have had any time to produce a Catalyst, or are we just relying on luck of the draw?
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It certainly would.

IC you'll be doing luck of the draw, but OOC you'll be picking your partners. You guys can agree on the pairings here, but the Masters themselves won't know who they're summoning ahead of time.
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I need bit of a clarification on what you require for the Magecraft section in the Master sheet. Are you asking us to detail the types of Magecraft & magecraft related abilities we possess, or must we outline each facet of every spell, trait and ability we possess?
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Tatsua Aiisen said
I need bit of a clarification on what you require for the Magecraft section in the Master sheet. Are you asking us to detail the types of Magecraft & magecraft related abilities we possess, or must we outline each facet of every spell, trait and ability we possess?


Specific spells, no. The types of magecraft, yes. So putting "Fire Magecraft" and maybe a little blurb about their proficiency is enough, for example. If you put curses or something similar, you'll need to specify a culture sphere and what kind of curses that sphere specializes in. If you app a rune-user though, I'll need you to give me the runic alphabet they use and what each rune in it does.

Sorcery Traits, Family Attributes, and the like will also go there. So if you have Mystic Eyes of Whisper, for instance, you'd put them there. Things related to Magecraft like High Speed Aria as well.

If you don't have something on the sheet though, you can't use it, so make sure you don't forget about stuff any magus should know like basic Bounded Field creation. If you want, for convenience's sake I can just add a thing on what General Magecraft covers, so you can just put that down instead of tediously listing a bunch of elementary things.
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The General Magecraft thing would be helpful, especially for people who don't know much about the Magecraft system in this universe.

I have most of my character done, besides doing her Magecraft listing.
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