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I was hoping to play a Nation that consists of the Ottoman lands west of Istanbul? Walachia, Serbia, Yugoslavia, Crimea and the such.

Or possibly a North Italian Nation consisting of Sardinia-Piedmont, Lucca, Parma, Tuscany and Modena, maybe even incorporate the Swiss.

Hmm.. not sure but it's for sure either of those.
Your first idea is likely impossible with a Polish-Hungarian union and Khazaria around.
Especially since half the countries you mention didn't exist and/or were part of the above mentioned two nations.

The second idea can work albeit I don't even have the faintest idea how the hell the Swiss are coming into the picture.
They're literally at the other end of Europe.


Well if you would care to take a look at the map that I put above, Sardinia-Piedmont consists of Genoa and Savoy, Switzerland is directly north of Savoy.
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Your first idea is likely impossible with a Polish-Hungarian union and Khazaria around.
Especially since half the countries you mention didn't exist and/or were part of the above mentioned two nations.

The second idea can work albeit I don't even have the faintest idea how the hell the Swiss are coming into the picture.
They're literally at the other end of Europe.

If your Poland-Hungary extends from Russia to Greece, it's probably going to be declining power. Big nations tend towards decadence and decay, and you're talking about a nation bigger than any European one since the Romans.

(Oh, and I think you mistook Swiss for Swedes!)

Maximum date sounds convenient at first but the fact is some changes alter history in a grand way while others are less relevant.
If you set the cutoff date to before Constantinople then theoretically somebody can prevent Christianity wideaspread in the Roman Empire thus dictating the religion of Europe in the future.


You misunderstand me, I think. The maximum date is more of a minimum date. If I say that it's the year 450, then nobody can change anything that happened before that year, including the rise of christianity, or the fall of Rome.

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If your Poland-Hungary extends from Russia to Greece, it's probably going to be declining power. Big nations tend towards decadence and decay, and you're talking about a nation bigger than any European one since the Romans.

(Oh, and I think you mistook Swiss for Swedes!)

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You misunderstand me, I think. The maximum date is more of a minimum date. If I say that it's the year 450, then nobody can change anything that happened before that year, including the rise of christianity, or the fall of Rome.
Meh, only the historical peak size of Hungary and Poland, or around that range.
It's certainly smaller than the Austrian Empire at its peak and unless you misunderstood me with thinking to conquer Russia or something the Holy Roman Empire of Germany would be the largest nation in Europe still.
Oh, and Russia. The unified Russia was and still is just huge. Though Russians are certainly not playing so much of a part here with them being still divided.

Anyways, basically I aim for a reasonably large nation which may even inherit some of Austria's roles from the original timeline.
Depending on how much the history changes here.

Also yeah, I totally confused Switzerland with Sweden.
In my language the two have plain different names which makes them easy to distinguish.

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