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Interesting. though somehow I think Zephyrion will manage to be worshiped by near every race with or without Lif's help.

He's very much the fire and brimstone sort of deity; failure to worship him is to invite apocalypse. His vanity demands that he have the respect of mortals, be it willing or otherwise.


I see

What I'm really trying to say is that Lifprasil doesn't want to fight Zeph or any other God lest they mistreat his people. He'll want Zeph's help, but as an ally rather than a minion, it would be stupid for him to try and rule Galbar, Arcon, and a God. It would be even stupider to represent only one God as well.

@Legion02Just wait until Mammon trundles in. He'll give Lif a lot of help...


I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not ;-;
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Oh, no, I meant that a regular army couldn't detect them. Lifprasil will detect, but he'll struggle a good bit. Here's why:

-They use soul manipulation to hide the presence of their spirits.

-The use magic to hide themselves from mystical detection.

-They use telepathy to hide their emotions/thoughts/minds from detection, meaning that even a Demigod like Lif will struggle to feel their thoughts.

-The use the shapeshifting to disperse themselves into an invisible cloud

-They fly way up into the air, so Lif won't notice them at all unless he is also flying, literally moves into one, and manages to notice the change in atmosphere when he enters its body.


That's not to say it can't be done. They are not all-powerful. It's just that you'll ultimately need to change the environment. If it's too hot and dry (a desert, for example) shape-shifting becomes more difficult. Furthermore, they rely on magical currents in the universe to feed themselves (that's right- they eat magic), so if you limit the amount of magic in the air, they'll land and become solid out of desperation to find nourishment on the ground.

So, it is very difficult, but possible. What Lifprasil will need to do is first find out where they are (an extraordinary task in its own right), then suck the magic right out of the air before they can run away, then change the environment at least temporarily.
If you succeed, they should first become solid to find nourishment, then get STUCK as a solid because the environment isn't right for shifting. Congratulations, you are now the proud slaver of a very frightened and confused lifeform who cannot shapeshift away from you. You monster.


I'm not saying he wants to force them into anything, but rather allow them the opportunity to join him in making a better future for sentient-kind. Lifprasil was made to accommodate sentients rather than use them as toys, more or less slaves. The tl;dr version of this is Lif just wants to be your bestest friend.
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I'm not saying he wants to force them into anything, but rather allow them the opportunity to join him in making a better future for sentient-kind. Lifprasil was made to accommodate sentients rather than use them as toys, more or less slaves. The tl;dr version of this is Lif just wants to be your bestest friend.


The way you say it sounds more like: "You pitiful, lowly beings; you are lucky that I am allowing you to join my ranks of faithful minions!" *smug anime girl face*
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I'm not saying he wants to force them into anything, but rather allow them the opportunity to join him in making a better future for sentient-kind. Lifprasil was made to accommodate sentients rather than use them as toys, more or less slaves. The tl;dr version of this is Lif just wants to be your bestest friend.


They won't trust him at first, but if he offers safety, then they'll agree, BUT they will demand a good place in his empire. They will not be servants
They're too prideful.
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The way you say it sounds more like: "You pitiful, lowly beings; you are lucky that I am allowing you to join my ranks of faithful minions!" *smug anime girl face*


That's the polar opposite of what I meant you dunce xD

Also, I just caught up with Allure's story @Lugubrious, and I can already tell Lif is going to have friction with him
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I'm not saying he wants to force them into anything, but rather allow them the opportunity to join him in making a better future for sentient-kind. Lifprasil was made to accommodate sentients rather than use them as toys, more or less slaves. The tl;dr version of this is Lif just wants to be your bestest friend.


but rather allow them the opportunity to join him


allow


So what if they don't want to join him? Will he enslave them? XD
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That's the polar opposite of what I meant you dunce xD

Also, I just caught up with Allure's story @Lugubrious, and I can already tell Lif is going to have friction with him


What? Surely a being as wise as Lifprasil would recognize the need for him to die to make the world a more beautiful place.
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I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not ;-;


It's completely sincere. The Adversary genuinely wants to help you. And he will. Eventually. Maybe sooner rather than later.
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So. Question. In the creation of Holy Sites, can Might be added to make it more amazing? Like, say, a God of Fire (Lava Portfolio) makes a small volcano with 4 might. Next turn, could they spend another 4 might making the Volcano larger and more Lava-y, or are you stuck with how much might you have spent initally?
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@KabenSaalNope, unfortunately you've got to make it and then live with it.
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Hmmm....do Holy Sites have to make sense? Like, could one with a tree, that's leaves and branches are made of fire?
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@KabenSaalM8 we've got wells patrolled by giant centipedes and a demigod made of ant. I'm pretty certain the answer is "no".
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Hmmm....do Holy Sites have to make sense? Like, could one with a tree, that's leaves and branches are made of fire?


We're gods. Who says we have to make things that make sense? Well, except Logos, maybe.

Besides, something like that can easily explained.

"Magic." *snort snort*
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@ScarifarMight is literally just "a god did it" in mechanic form.
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Ok, I'll get back to reading. Thanks for the help.
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Final question. Do Gods have to be singular beings, or can they be cuminations, where one superior being has gained dominance over the rest?
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@KabenSaalOne can gain dominance over the rest. One of our gods is like that, actually -- three smaller gods overpowered a fourth, and now they are one.
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I was thinking, several hundred spirits meshed together into one being, and only then realized the flaw in the plan when they realized they had to share. So, cue a ruckus until one won and subdued/ate the rest of them.
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@KabenSaalI'm not a co-GM (or GM), so I don't know. I'd assume it's legal, though -- most rules are crunchy rather than fluffy.
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Guess I could bug @Cyclone about it....
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