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@Hael, I just generally dislike evil for the sake of evil. Besides Evil being a completely subjective concept, I find it hard to believe any being would go out of their way to inflict harm on others without any benefit to themselves.
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@Hael, I just generally dislike evil for the sake of evil. Besides Evil being a completely subjective concept, I find it hard to believe any being would go out of their way to inflict harm on others without any benefit to themselves.


I understand what you mean, but Saltheax-Yul will have motivation for inflicting harm. I realize that you DID say you would wait for the CS, but even then, you're still really assuming a lot about a character you haven't seen.

Aside from that, we have a God of Chaos, a God of Order, my own Goddess of Intelligence, two Gods of Beauty, a God of fucking Perfection, and so on. Those are all highly, highly subjective concepts- many of them far more subjective than Evil.

Tell me, how is Beauty definable, but Evil is too subjective?

And magic as a whole is mockably "hard to believe", yet we have several Gods of Magic. We abandoned reality long ago, Frettzo, and my character will honestly have more motivation than Vestec, Jvan, Illunabar, Logos or many others for doing what it does. Don't judge a book by its title alone.
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my character will honestly have more motivation than Vestec, Jvan, Illunabar, Logos or many others for doing what it does. Don't judge a book by its title alone.


I like how you didn't include Vowzra in the list. NO ONE is more fanatical-yet-somehow-'wise' than Vowzra xD
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Hey, hey, he's fated! As far as you know <.<

Actually, Reathos may not dislike Saltheax all that much, as Saltheax-Yul fully intends on ending his own life at some point. He will never be immortal.


I'm beginning to wonder if there will be anyone who doesn't like Sal xDD
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I'm beginning to wonder if there will be anyone who doesn't like Sal xDD


Keriss will like him for certain.
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I'm beginning to wonder if there will be anyone who doesn't like Sal xDD


Niciel, for one

Ole' Saltheax is the opposite of everything she stands for. She attempts to bring goodness and light in the universe, while it tears all that right down.

I also imagine that Kyre, Teknall, Toun, and anyone who cares for mortals, perfection, goodness, or morality will all have a problem with it. Saltheax follows no morals, is jealous of anything more perfect than it, is the opposite of good, and mortals will despise it as much as fear it. Those things alone should put it on the hitlist of many deities.
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<Snipped quote by Frettzo>

I understand what you mean, but Saltheax-Yul will have motivation for inflicting harm. I realize that you DID say you would wait for the CS, but even then, you're still really assuming a lot about a character you haven't seen.

Aside from that, we have a God of Chaos, a God of Order, my own Goddess of Intelligence, two Gods of Beauty, a God of fucking Perfection, and so on. Those are all highly, highly subjective concepts- many of them far more subjective than Evil.

Tell me, how is Beauty definable, but Evil is too subjective?

And magic as a whole is mockably "hard to believe", yet we have several Gods of Magic. We abandoned reality long ago, Frettzo, and my character will honestly have more motivation than Vestec, Jvan, Illunabar, Logos or many others for doing what it does. Don't judge a book by its title alone.


Furthermore, @Frettzo we have a God of (Purity) and (Holiness), but no Evil God to counteract that.

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@Hael, I'm assuming a lot because you said the dude would attempt to get into Hell to be turned into a godbeast so he could destroy things more efficiently.
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@Hael, I'm assuming a lot because you said the dude would attempt to get into Hell to be turned into a godbeast so he could destroy things more efficiently.


That's not enough to judge an entire character on, is it? I was only shooting around ideas. I hadn't even settled on doing that for sure, and there is a lot more to Saltheax than that. I feel like you just saw "Evil" and assumed an entire personality for it.
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That's not enough to judge an entire character on, is it?


I judge by what I've seen. That, coupled by all the talk about how evil and twisted and sadistic he is, is all I've ever seen about the character xD It gets difficult to not grow a bit of contempt for the idea of a character who's so consciously evil.
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That's not enough to judge an entire character on, is it? I was only shooting around ideas. I hadn't even settled on doing that for sure, and there is a lot more to Saltheax than that. I feel like you just saw "Evil" and assumed an entire personality for it.


I think we can all judge Sal pretty accurately from how you've described him OOC, tbh: he's one evil sonovaharlot, loves to rape, kill, maim, destroy, and pretty much do every single thing each of us hates, including rubbing glass on sand and making that horrendous squeaky sound which I loathe with a passion.
We're meant to hate his guts.

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Oh boy, ubermenschen protecting ubermensch crystals that turn nebulously worthy folk into ubermenschen! I'm sure no balances of power could be disrupted amongst the mortal world if some enterprising god were to sidestep all those fancy trials and scatter a fistful of them across Galbar.
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<Snipped quote by Hael>

I judge by what I've seen. That, coupled by all the talk about how evil and twisted and sadistic he is, is all I've ever seen about the character xD It gets difficult to not grow a bit of contempt for the idea of a character who's so consciously evil.


Yet you have not judged Kariss, also being sadistic and evil. Though probably not on the level that Saltheax-Yul will be
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<Snipped quote by Hael>

I judge by what I've seen. That, coupled by all the talk about how evil and twisted and sadistic he is, is all I've ever seen about the character xD It gets difficult to not grow a bit of contempt for the idea of a character who's so consciously evil.


No, you're supposed to have contempt for him IC, but what you said sounded more like your dislike of the character was a judgment on me, Hael not Saltheax, for creating an evil character. Essentially, it seemed like you were telling me that my idea was bad, before you've even seen the idea.

Besides Evil being a completely subjective concept, I find it hard to believe any being would go out of their way to inflict harm on others without any benefit to themselves.


That's not a judgement on Saltheax: that's a judgement on my character creation and writing.

And you know what? It's totally fine not to like my writing and CS. But you should wait to actually see it first. You have not.
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@Lauder, I've seen some talk about Keriss, namely about how s/he'll kill anything that doesn't align with her/his views. A little too extreme and counter productive for my taste, but I can imagine a real person behaving like that, so it's no biggie.
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<Snipped quote by Frettzo>

No, you're supposed to have contempt for him IC, but what you said sounded more like your dislike of the character was a judgment on me, Hael not Saltheax, for creating an evil character. Essentially, it seemed like you were telling me that my idea was bad, before you've even seen the idea.

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That's not a judgement on Saltheax: that's a judgement on my character creation and writing.

And you know what? It's totally fine not to like my writing and CS. But you should wait to actually see it first. You have not.


In any case, lets end that there.
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