[OOC] Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

[Double Capybara]

@Kho Wikia was the very site I was thinking to use. It seems to be simple to use, especially due to the WYSIWYG

[Kho]

@Kho Wikia was the very site I was thinking to use. It seems to be simple to use, especially due to the WYSIWYG

@Double Capybara

I was thinking to use. It seems to be simple to use, especially due to the WYSIWYG

@Double Capybara

seems to be simple to use, especially due to the WYSIWYG

@Double Capybara

especially due to the WYSIWYG

@Double Capybara

WYSIWYG

@Double Capybara

[Cyclone]

@Kho

What you see is what you get.

[Double Capybara]

@Kho What Cyclone said, basically, you can edit things visually instead of having to know the codes.

[Kho]

Well, if one of you whizzywhatsits makes it, non-whizzywhatsits like yours truly can go about editing stuff in. Expect much useless crap from this energetic little khub. I'll paint the wiki pink and put ponies (they're HORSES!) all over the place <3

[Lauder]

Kho and his horses

[Kho]

@Lauder Which one of them am I? Surely the horse itself! And where do you find this stuff? I worry for you sometimes.

[Lauder]

@Kho

You haven't the need to worry for me, my all-powerful GM. I lost my mind ages ago when I scrolled through the pages of this OOC.

[Kho]

@Lauder Impossible. We only permit elevated banter here.

[Muttonhawk]

[@all] Just made this a thing. I'll be adding to it sparsely, but deface at your liesure: http://divinus-ii.wikia.com/?wiki-welcome=1

[Double Capybara]

[@all] Just made this a thing. I'll be adding to it sparsely, but deface at your liesure

@Muttonhawk

Once we all get accounts in the Wikia, I would advise making it private, as due to the license, people are free to copy what is in there. Or even better, delete the link from this public place and share it by PM with others.

[lif]

Kho and his horses

@Lauder

Vintage.

[Muttonhawk]

@Double Capybara Not for lack of me trying, but I don't think Wikia is capable of making wikis private. If you're worried about it, we can tear down the wikia wiki and make a new one elsewhere before we all go crazy adding pages.

Edit: I'm going to sleep now. I've left a disclaimer for us on the main page of the wiki, but let me know if I should take down the wiki and try somewhere where we can get a private setting. I kinda just dived in to this :P

[LokiLeo789]

@Muttonhawk

Is that a template you used for your page? If so, what is it?

[Double Capybara]

@Double Capybara Not for lack of me trying, but I don't think Wikia is capable of making wikis private. If you're worried about it, we can tear down the wikia wiki and make a new one elsewhere before we all go crazy adding pages.

Edit: I'm going to sleep now. I've left a disclaimer for us on the main page of the wiki, but let me know if I should take down the wiki and try somewhere where we can get a private setting. I kinda just dived in to this :P

@Muttonhawk

That was the main thing stopping me from making a Wiki. I can't see to find something that is both private and WYSIWYG. I think Mediawiki is fine, but we shouldn't be too open about the link to it.

I also tried obsidianportal, but it just doesn't work very well and you have to pay to make it really work nicely.

[Cyclone]

@Double Capybara

With all due respect, I take no issue with the wiki being public and don't think that you should care either. I very much doubt that someone is going to rip off any of the writing or concepts that we have here. Even if they were to do so and you took offense to that, this website (and by extension the RP itself) is accessible to anybody and so they already have the means to do so.

[Double Capybara]

@Cyclone What worries me is the licensing issue. If someone takes something from RPGuild pages and you take offense to it, you will have a theoretical room to push the issue forward. If someone takes from the wikia, you don't, due to the CC BY-SA.

It is something I think anyone using it should be aware.

[Cyclone]

@Double Capybara

Would you really have the means and the will to take legal action against some theoretical violator, especially given that they would likely be a resident of a different country? If not, then it's not like the licensing matters.

Come now, first the idea of someone taking plagiarizing us for some nefarious purposes seems unlikely and funny, but then the idea of you taking them to an international court over it is just too much.

I really don't think the licensing is worth batting an eyelash at.

[Muttonhawk]

No, the licensing concern is something to keep in mind. As long as we know what we can get away with, we should be good. If we can't get away with what we want to put on the wiki, we'll have to go with one that isn't WYSIWYG.

Firstly, we maybe will have to be more careful about pictures we get from around the place. If someone asks wikia to take down the wiki due to copywrite, we may not get much warning before they nuke the whole thing.

Other stuff will regard the stuff we make that we want to protect. Our writing should be fine, as all the meat of it is on RPGuild and we probably won't use more than short excerpts of it or CSes in the wiki. Ideas, characters, and themes, however, probably won't be protected. So no one who wants to port such things into a commercial work (should they be so inclined) will have an easy time protecting their copywrite.

As a courtesy to my fellow players, I would be willing to find a different, private wiki if any of this is an issue. It won't be quite as easy to use as Wikia if Capy's search is anything to go by, but we should make this decision early.

Also, @LokiLeo789, I used an infobox and put in everything else myself. All the tools were there.

Edit: A note on courts; it probably wouldn't get that far in any case. It's just that if someone complains to Wikia with copywrite law quoted, Wikia may just take down our wiki without so much as a peep to us. It'll be inconvenient to say the least, but that's the easiest thing for Wikia to do.

[Muttonhawk]

Sorry for the double post. I've looked for another wiki site myself and some things pretty quickly became clear.

1. It should go without saying that a private wiki will make it necessary for everyone in the RP to sign up and get the wiki curator to add them as an authorised member. This is a bit of red tape that may get tedious when/if others want to join and don't know much of the lore.
2. People who want to join or at least get to know the RP cannot get properly informed via the wiki unless they contact us first. This will result in a barrier to entry for new players.
3. I cannot guarantee that any private wikis will allow transfer of administration rights. This may mean that one person has to be responsible for adding people. If that person is busy, access will be delayed for upwards of a couple of days. If they leave the RP, the wiki will be inaccessible to anyone new.

In light of this, I am leaning more towards a public wiki for the sake of convenience. It will mean that we will be have to be careful when handling images taken from elsewhere around the internet, but that's probably an easier trade-off than a mire of bureaucracy.

However, whatever you write in the wiki will be under a creative commons license. This is as opposed to having NO license on RPGuild. Anyone who wants to use their intellectual property for other things will have to go through and remove what they want from the wiki and here themselves.

Any comments, questions, or otherwise? I'd like to have input from others about this.