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I can't say that I'm a massive fan of the novels, either. My problems with the show comes down to A). It sucks now, and B). If you're gonna adapt something, respect the source material try to follow it as best you can.

If you can't, don't gut it and COMPRESS TWO WHOLE BOOKS INTO ONE SHITTY SEASON.


It was a good season with one shitty plotline (in Dorne). Hardhome was some of the best television ever.

Anyway gutting those two books was a mercy. Those two books were awful.
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Season 6 is looking to be pretty damn spectacular, based only on the events we know are happening this season. Then again, I suppose not everyone has watched forty minute long breakdowns of the trailer, so some fans night not know about the upcoming events quite yet.

I am definitely ready and definitely excited.
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It was a good season with one shitty plotline (in Dorne). Hardhome was some of the best television ever.

Anyway gutting those two books was a mercy. Those two books were awful.


>Season Five
>Good

pick one.
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>Season Five
>Good

pick one.


The Wall was good. Tyrion-JBear was good. King's Landing was good. Brienne-Pod was good. Stannis was good. Boltons were good.

Dorne sucked ass and the battle in the snow was (appropriately) a depressing letdown. Mereen kinda sucked but it was better (and shorter) than the books, so I'll take it.

Overall it gets more hate than it deserved.
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I don't like the way they handled Stannis. It came off as... I dunno, anticlimactic. And Dorne was... what it was.

I was cool with the rest of it though.
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I don't like the way they handled Stannis. It came off as... I dunno, anticlimactic.


Only because Stannis LIVES MANNIS IS STILL ALIVE GET HYPE MY LORDS!!!
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Only because Stannis LIVES MANNIS IS STILL ALIVE GET HYPE MY LORDS!!!


That'd be what they have to do to make it work. Otherwise they just have a major storyline end on a vague note.
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DID SOMEONE SAY MANNIS?

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Stannis was good.

Overall it gets more hate than it deserved.


>Stannis was good.

Too bad literally ever piece of character development went down the tube when he burned Shireen.

Season five deserves every piece of hate it gets.
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>Stannis was good.

Too bad literally ever piece of character development went down the tube when he burned Shireen.

Season five deserves every piece of hate it gets.


That was part of his development. This was a guy who had to be king -- didn't want it, didn't ask for it, it was his duty. He gave everything he cared about because that was his duty, and it broke him and everybody around him.

BUT IT DIDN'T KILL HIM HE'S STILL ALIVE BRIENNE SUCKS AT EVERYTHING HE'S GUARANTEED TO COME BACK
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White Walker Stannis.

It'll happen.
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That was part of his development. This was a guy who had to be king -- didn't want it, didn't ask for it, it was his duty. He gave everything he cared about because that was his duty, and it broke him and everybody around him.


This.

There are three conflicting threads in Stannis's personality;

1: That he is legalistic and thinks everything that has gone wrong is because others broke the law by refusing him. This means he is duty bound to do what will restore the rule of law.

2: From his perspective, the only higher power that has helped him in any way is the R'hllor. This is better presented in the books, but it is still present in the show. That power restored control of the Baratheon faction to him, helped to weed out the competition via leech magic, and supported his biggest victory north of the wall.

3: His natural duties to his daughter, both as her father and as a lord raising his heir.

I don't think it is too surprising that, considering how each of these have played out in his life during the timeline of the shows, the second one ends up winning his personality when the chips were down. It was a brutal scene, but it followed from everything leading up to it.

The place they dropped the ball was on that last battle. They shouldn't have tried to cram all of that into the last episode. Stannis in front of the wall and Sansa hopping out the window, that could have waited until the beginning of this season to do all that. But ending that plotline on an off-screen battle followed by an offscreen death? Yeh, they fucked up royally there.
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I never bought Stannis not wanting to win the throne, or atleast only wanting it out of duty. Maybe he doesn't want to be king, but he sure as hell doesn't want to lose to anyone either.
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That was part of his development. This was a guy who had to be king -- didn't want it, didn't ask for it, it was his duty. He gave everything he cared about because that was his duty, and it broke him and everybody around him.

BUT IT DIDN'T KILL HIM HE'S STILL ALIVE BRIENNE SUCKS AT EVERYTHING HE'S GUARANTEED TO COME BACK




Always rooted for the dood.
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R + L = J for King.
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R + L = J for King.


So what you're saying is you're a wight supremacist.
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