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@Fabricant451 And if the outcome seems feasible and positive, why wouldn't they?

It doesn't seem like neither. They will outright be killed as have many who have tried to do so. Who is gonna rally them or do they have a hive mind? Within a couple of minutes that someone starts talking about revolution he will be shot down along with his family. The outcome doesn't seem positive in a million years.

And besides the heavy propaganda this past decade, in the military, in the school and everything else, not much I guess. My army might as well give my head to Maddox on a golden platter.

Edit: Yes. As I mentioned before a couple posts ago, I messed up the age grouping numbers. Noticed while I was reading my bio.

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@Fabricant451 No, they aren't content as I said before, they never are. But what are they gonna do about it? You have the idea that it is so bad that everyone is willing to go in a suicide charge to end the way things are.

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@Fabricant451 Yes, they don't want to have a sore back anymore so they are willing to kill themselves and their families. Your logic is so flawed no person thinks like that, especially the common folk.

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@Fabricant451 Yes they have all that but most of all is the instinct to survive. Few are those that are ready to die for a cause, ready to give up their life. Not enough to actually overthrow the ruling government even if they somehow joined together,which is impossible.

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@Fabricant451 And that's why it's easier to control them.

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No, it's rather that you overestimate people.

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@Fabricant451 XD They don't have to be okay. They just have to accept it. Let me tell you something about people. They will never ever be okay. They always want something more. They have bad conditions? They want good conditions. They have good conditions? They want great conditions? They want to be the king and so what? They will never get what they want. And the mines aren't for long term.

And yes, people are that easy to control. Especially the new generations influenced heavily with propaganda. The first step is always the hardest but once you have set the rules and paved the road it is a highway from there on.

Edit: It also depends on the mines and how big the kingdom and it's work force is.

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@Fabricant451 LOL, mines don't run that fast.

And I wasn't speaking for the lords and ladies of Abhain.

Even good kings have people in the opposition.

What opposition? There is no opposition. There might be those who conspire against him, and like many others before them they will be weeded out and grabbed by the roots.

For those who excel at their chosen talent they keep doing what they do best. Geniuses always shine no matter the age. For the others, it is the mine for them. For those who are too weak to work the mines they can do something else or have their family provide for them. Think about it. You have old man with a family that they want to take care off begging to work at the mines as they plan to die there and want to leave their family some money. I mean, who would want someone in their family that can't work, doesn't provide for it and only takes?

And my bad on the age grouping. People could barely get to 50s let alone 60s. I've messed some numbers up I see. Will get to fix them later.

And....uhhh.....yes my dear. You can very well treat people like cattle to keep them in control. Give them something good with a fat doze of "you know what happens to you when you do that" and get them all in check.

Edit: And the propaganda. Forgot to mention it this time.

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@The Valkyrie For a guy whose sole purpose had been shaping a country that shared his visions and would carry them on even after his death, he would have to be an incompetent retard to not have taken every measure to weed out any danger that came to that plan. Especially those dangers that came from within. I mean is it that far fetched that you have that level of control over your country and people to not get any revolutions and uprisings?

How do revolutions work anyway? There is always someone who decides that things aren't the way they are supposed to be and tries to convince others to join him. The worst things are the higher the chances of gathering a big crowd. But how bad are things when the only problem the people have is harsh working conditions? Are they that selfish to risk their families just because they got tired working?

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@Fabricant451 How is Jack surrounded by enemies? Where did the "shared vision" part go? Who would even spy on him?
You'd think that the "secret police" would even be worth for something but why keep them around when they can't even do their main job?

You'd think that there are only people speaking against him. What about people supporting him by speaking publicly to the masses?
Harsher conditions=better payment than before. Say what you want but there are no jobless people

People are easy to control. By constantly shoving them one side of the bread they will give in. And you think there aren't people speaking against Jack? I mean, those who do so of free will are taken care of but there are countless others, working for Jack, speaking against him just to have another one overthrow that guy with better arguments. Win the argument have better support. Small tactics like these(along with the damn church that you keep forgetting) are what has made people to see Jack, if not with a good eye then with a neutral one.

And if anyone wanted to revolt where do you think they'd go? Recruit the public speakers working for Jack, payed to say weak arguments against him? Go to the church since it has always supported the people and even voiced against Jack, "overthrowing" some of his decisions?
Where would the revolution start? Who would be a part of it and why?

His losses of temper are out of his control. It's not like he just wants to kill, murder and torture people all day.