Captain Jordan

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true perhaps. But that would require the incredible effort of googling a meme creator. You know that burden is far too heavy for an immaculate Advanced RPer to even consider setting out on.

@Ellri

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A picture for us? Heh.

We can't return the favor, though. No such tools on our tablet.

@Ellri

That's what the Internet is for. You can find images and turn them into memes without ever opening up a picture editor.

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But-but... We were this close to beating @Captain Jordan's record... [insert obligatory whining]

This thread is far too quiet.

@Ellri

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Just to let yall know, I'm still alive. Just taking a break to make some money.

@Mahz

Dammit, Mahz, I was going for a record of lack of replies to my post in this topic. I just can't seem to beat three days.

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(If anything, editing out a single character requires much more accuracy than hitting a button of that approximate size.)

@Shienvien

Even on a decently sized screen, a single character is almost an impossible target to hit on mobile. Gaaaaaaaaah!

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@Captain Jordan@Ellri
No, what I'm saying is that we really don't need more buttons at the bottom of posts, and especially small ones at that. I don't see the need to have a quote button and a quote with mention beside it.

@LegendBegins

And I respect that your opinion is the desire for an advanced settings page. I think that's pretty distant in the future of the site, Mahz hasn't mentioned that on his docket. He may decide to just code one someday, but he did say he was pretty swamped at work right now.

This is an easy addition that introduces a desired feature, even if it's not in a desired way.

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@Captain Jordan
Except some mobile users prefer desktop site versions, and zooming every time you wish to quote someone would be annoying. The rating buttons are already too small to push without zooming on mobile.

@LegendBegins

If that's their preference, they should realize that comes with some sacrifices, like having to zoom in to hit buttons. Sites that are made for mobile users shouldn't have to cater their desktop sites for mobile users.

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There's an idea. Have the buttons be [[@][Quote]] [@Mention]. If you get what I mean, no padding between the [@] and [quote] so they appear to be two parts to a single button, making the [@] a mentionable quote.

It'd be no smaller than the rating buttons, so it's not exactly hard to hit. It preserves space. And being directly adjacent to the quote button, it makes it clear what it does.

EDIT: Mockup, because I could:

@Captain Jordan

Those buttons are rather close. For people who don't use a computer mouse (eg. all mobile users), clicking one button rather than the other would be tricky.

In regards to the discussion on notifications, perhaps a good middle-ground is to sort (and maybe even group into hiders, at least if there are more than 1 or 2) notifications by thread. Thus you do not increase clutter, but the notifications are still grouped into where they come from so you don't have a mixed list.

I also prefer full quotes rather than expanding quotes. Expanding quotes require extra elements on the page, thus more to go wrong, and the first few lines only provide the proper context if the first few lines of the post are the context and not a later part of the post.

@BBeast

They're really no closer than the ratings buttons are. And once a proper mobile implementation hits, the buttons should be large enough to hit with impunity.

The benefit to mobile, however, is the ability to zoom in and be sure that you're clicking where you want. Google's Chrome mobile browser, additionally, will pop up a magnified version of the space you're trying to hit if it's not sure which link you've clicked. Between those two features, it shouldn't be too difficult.

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@Ellri
Not at all. The pure purpose of an Advanced Settings page is to customize your experience.

@LegendBegins

I think the button addition would be an easy workaround for the moment, considering that @Mahz has a lot more on his plate.

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<Snipped quote by Ellri>

I disagree; as we are all users ourselves, we understand functionality and ease of use. However, catering to every situation leads to a cluttered mess. What is necessary is either customizability, or a solution to cater to most situations.

@LegendBegins

Your suggestion is what?