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Alright, so I think we need to agree on the nature of the time travel we're talking about in this. If we don't have a standardized understanding of how it works, things could get very confused very quickly.

When we travel back in time, are we creating a branching timeline? Or are we messing with a single, continuous timeline? The only reason I bring this up is that there have been a few mentions of ensuring that the characters are born even after defeating Darkseid. Whether or not they're born seems like the least of the problems posed by a continuous timeline.

Under that paradigm, if they were successful in preventing Darkseid's purge and subsequent enslavement of Earth's populace, they would effectively also be preventing the future Batman and Luthor from constructing the time portal that was absolutely necessary to travel back and make that change to the time stream; it is a categorical paradox.

Not that comics don't have paradoxes when it comes to time travel, but it's not my favorite way of looking at it. The continuous timeline paradigm is fatalistic (i.e. any time travel that takes place logically ought to be observable in the first iteration. If no branching future occurs, whatever happens already takes time travel into account), the branching timeline paradigm is deterministic (i.e. going back effectively makes the future ambiguous, allowing actual changes to be made).

Singular Continuous Timeline:


Branching Timelines with Time Travel only going backwards in time:


I suppose that even with branching timelines a character might want to ensure that a version of them is born into the timeline they're currently inhabiting, but that version of them would be a separate individual. It's not like the character themselves would fade out of existence if they weren't born in the new timeline. They're already an out-of-place artifact of a separate world; they've been born already, somewhen else. If the events of the new timeline could change their pasts, not only shouldn't they be born, but they shouldn't have been able to come back to save anyone or change anything.

If I'm over analyzing this and making it un-fun, let me know and I'll stop thinking so much. I'll stop beating a dead horse now.
Lol, nah, I think outside of really climactic battles I'll be keeping the marine life helpers pretty mundane: sharks and squids and whatnot.

Maybe some minor sea monsters like cetus, but no big names like Kraken or Leviathan.
So I saw 'oil rig' and 'international waters' and actually said "Yippee!" out loud.
~~|20 Years in the Future|~~

Mako watched the portal as it charged up: the physical culmination of all their cooperation, the monument to their determination to undo Darkseid and the destruction he'd wrought. It was a fine sight.

With a sure his grip on the haft of his trident, he stepped forwards toward some of the other assembled time-travelers. At the mention of fathers though, the exhilaration he'd felt until then quieted and his lips pressed into a thin, flat line. How Orin would see him, the son he'd never met? It mattered not, Mako thought as he stepped into the portal; he succeeded the throne of Atlantis, and his actions would speak for him. He believed he was a son his father could be proud of.

~~|Present Day|~~


As they arrived through the time portal into the midst of the brawl, Mako held his trident with both hands in a defensive posture, with the tip pointed downwards in front of him. He listened as the future GL spoke with the past one and Sinestro, and seemed to broker at least a pause in the fighting.

Mako still wasn't entirely convinced the villains would just drop everything and team up, so he kept a wary eye open, scanning between them. Some he recognized: Bane, Deathstroke, Captain Boomerang. Others were less familiar to him. None the less, they needed everyone. Clearing his throat, he called out in a booming voice.

"We need to begin making preparations, if we are to stand any chance."
So after reading John's Bio, I just now realized that the time portal is on Earth. I'm just going to edit the last little bit of Aquaman's bio to fit that, since there doesn't seem like much point in making a ship and meeting up with the fleets if he'd just need to come back anyways.
Okay, Aquaman's done.
Going to put together an application related to Aquaman. He doesn't really seem popular enough that I'd need to call dibs, but there it is.
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