Darkmatter

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@Darkmatter@GreivousKhanI finished up the details of Illgarythe's racial and religious composition the other day; basically, all the Illgarythians by race follow their own brand of Uwanism but tolerate other religions and sometimes dabble in your systems.
I wrote that there's minorities from both of your city-states; Khan's people could have been mostly refugees that decided to stay here, while Dark's people could be here as immigrants or on business-related matters.

@Aristo

I'd imagine a few diplomats, plenty traders and quite a bit of tourism make up the Vrentians going south.

I doubt we even realistically have a border at this stage? More a politely patrolled 'what's your business', line political necessity.

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Hi Dark, in answer to your questions:

1) We're not using its full length bc people wanted to be clustered close to one end, and I tried to accommodate placement preferences early on.

2) rudimentary air transport is fine, areal units for fighting, let's stay away from.

3) The map is not an exhaustive topographical description of the landscape, just a way to get relative city locations, biome types, rough distances, major land marks like rivers and lakes and mountains. If a spur of land, etc, is required to explain the flow of a river, you can assume there is such an explanation. Everything is still a draft and subject to change as I try to give folks what they want.

@Flagg

I understand as such, hence directing those comments at others as opposed to you! You've made it clear the map is a WIP, I'm just having a little fun prodding at it. Don't take it serious unless I address it at you! And even then I only mean it constructively.

So no flying scouts/cavalry? Ok.

@GreivousKhan Seems good to me.

Here's my religious break down anyway:

The Way of Yvazgrul: 100%

Cavalry Breakdown For Khan:

Light-Medium Melee: 40%
Light horse cavalry.
Dragoons.
Spider Cavalry.

Heavy Melee/Support: 25%
Heavy horse cavalry
Torren cavalry
Ardawn Elkun - Giant mountain elk support units.

Ranged/Archer Cavalry: 35%
Light, medium and heavy, horses and spiders as well as some occasional elks.

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@flagg

I've been informed that while I slept, you A-O-K'd spider cavalry.
Thanks, I guess

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I'm just going to say again, I still don't understand not using the full length of the isthmus.

@flagg Aerial/flying units yay or nay?

@ClocktowerEchos We're currently geographically close. Perhaps we should drum up some history/relations.

@Aristo The rivers that run through both our lands don't make sense

There'd have to be some kind of mountain or at least a large spur along our border, for the river to go in two directions. Then again the land may just lie that way! I'm going to name some of the individual distributaries but we can just settle on a name for the whole thing!

Anyway, it's also a very important strategic point that between us, we control the only river system that actually bisects the isthmus.

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With regards to me doing a map myself:

"I'm going to be resizing everything. Like i said in the OOC it's suggestion, and im just doing it to offer more detail. I am not belittling anyone else's map attempts or flagg's decisions I'm just trying to add help!"

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That's cute, hope you enjoy your neighbors o.~ But seriously, get a PM going with me if that's the spot you want to stick with, I'd like to keep my direct neighbors as informed as possible on the dangers of the forest and what they can expect.

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Whether you approve of the size of the forest or not, gives you no right to start partitioning it out and cutting pieces off to yourself to repurpose for your own cities.

Khan, if you wanted to work in a portion of that land, and needed proximity to someone or another, and the forest was proving a problem with that, you could have always PM'd me, and the option is still open. I am normally a very flexible person when it comes to accommodating others around me, especially if it would lead to interactions in the IC. That being said, despite being imposed upon like this, I am still open for discourse on the matter, and you can PM me to work something out.

Darkmatter, I'm frankly disappointed in you. To suggest breaking up another player's land like that, without even the GM or affected player present?

@Alfhedil

The suggestion was completely meant in a non-insulting manner. It was just that a suggestion. In the OOC, for you and the GM to see that was the point! Nothing we write is 'official' until approved by flagg so I don't see the issue! I think you're taking offence where none was meant, and I can't blame you I often do the same.

However I do have concerns, the forest is massive! It's easily 20-25% of the available isthmus. And it's not even technically a state, it's an area sequestered for your own mythos, which is fine be me, I genuinely thought the space forest concept was cool. Yet, I tried opening dialogue on how the states would interact, and you made it clear it wouldn't be easy, that any interaction with the Dominion would be long, drawn out and a slogfest, to even say 'hello' never mind the deep politicing that people aim for in these RPs.

Khan and I merely theorised and showed an alternative version, where the forest is still massive, but with a few purple patches for Khan. I'm not taking shots here, or saying your nation is lesser in anyway but Khan and I, and others have actively worked on a shared history and would indeed like some level of proximity. And all we did was work on suggestions! We didn't demand from flagg or knock you for it, we suggested!

I think you've taken the wrong tone here, we always intended, and still do, on it being a discussion.

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Seems someone wants that spot already, plus it does make sense to be a little closer to DK. (be nice to me!)

So I have revised my proposition.



Purple is supposed to be forest and swampland. Grey hills. Supposed to have more forest north east of me as well.

@GreivousKhan

I'm Darkmatter and this is my favourite message on the citadel.

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Yup, I imagine they could have used that river to sail into the Deeping Ocean. That or we can slice the wasteland forest in half near the bottom. >.>

@GreivousKhan

They could just sail from my port straight down to the river Yeodrothan lies on! I'll be on chatzy in a while and we can just throw out the last details and I'll add it to my history.

Although I still agree the forest seems excessively large.

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Added My cities location.

@GreivousKhan

If you just do it so as you've left Vrent after the second conflict with Abelon, I'll have four ships of the line which could have just sailed your people along the coast and thus removed our current logical distance issue!

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Wouldn't your city be on the opposite side of the mountain range? I don't know what scale this is in, but it seems like a fair distance.

@Capra

Well, based on the scale provided there's about 100 miles as the crow flies between us, and I'd see mining could easily be that far out that's only a two day horse ride. Which is well within the City's reach in a setting such as this. I've no problem with your nation! But I'd sort of assumed mining rights and thus it surely wouldn't be missed, yano the giant evil skelton army.