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@Eddie Brock Do you remember Red X? His run as Iron Man was the fucking bomb. He had that Iron Man banner picture and would use scans in his posts way before I can remember anybody else doing it. There was something so cinematic to it. It's probably a big reason that I do it now - because thirteen year old me thought it was the coolest fucking shit ever.


Sounds familiar, but I can't quite picture it. In any event, I'm addicted to it. Sometimes I procrastinate writing by looking for a good picture to use, although now I just use Imgur in one-offs rather than saving everything to Photobucket. I remember one time when I picked up Catwoman, MB linked me his PB because he's got sub-folders for, like, all the Bat-characters. Wish I still had that link. I'd plunder the crap out of it.
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I think I've complained about my upbringing enough in these OOCs, but I agree. People here suck.

Curiously, did you ever hang out with that Mod in person? #HypeReferences


I actually didn't even know MB was from there until after my time, I think. I've never met anyone from the Hype or here in person. When I was in high school still, some of the old guard would talk about meeting up at San Diego Comic-Con. Now that I'm old enough to afford the trip every year, those lazy bums don't attend anymore. *grumble*

Also, I'm all aboard Team Pictures in Posts, as y'all have seen. I've got two 100+ Photobucket albums for Spider-Man and Flash. Heh.

According to the state of Indiana...


Well, there's your problem. I lived in Indiana for four years. Those people be crazy. Also, they produced MB, so you know something's not right with that place. #HypeReferences
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Did I say that? That was unintentional and not how that was supposed to be taken at all. My apologies. Seriously, never meant to offend you. I was just trying to say that we are probably not going to change each other's minds here so maybe we should change the subject.

Seriously though, never wanted to offend. You are probably one of my favorite other players on this game right now.


No offense taken, man. I've said my fair share of things in the heat of arguments that didn't come out right, so I get it. (I'm still gonna have Spider-Man grill Ol' Cueball mercilessly in his inner monologue, though. )

EDIT: On the bright side, the debate helped us shed a few more OOC pages. People who pop in and out are gonna see how much they missed and be like...

Furthermore, please don't suggest that I'm just some shill incapable of forming my own opinion. I dislike MoS for my own reasons, which as you can see are quite important to me.
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The Avengers sure did kill a lot of those aliens that were attack New York didn't they? Hawkeye arrows, Hulk smashing, Iron Man guns, etc. And before you go all "but they were aliens!" so was Zod. Guess killing a bunch of faceless minions is morally justifiable though. And Fraknly having an invasion on that scale without more collateral damage is unrealistic.

But anyways I think we're talking in circles here, you'll continue being on the hate train because the internet complained a bit and I'll continue loving this movie because I think it is amazing.

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Haha you like that? I almost didn't do it. No more hints though, I want people to read the post.


The fact that you had to non sequitur back to the killing issue just proves that there's no argument against my second point. MoS Superman doesn't prevent one iota of collateral damage because the writers chose to ignore it.

But I'll humor you. At what point did I say no superheroes could ever kill? I didn't. I said Superman shouldn't ever kill. In no way does that ever translate to the Avengers. Steve Rogers is a soldier. Natasha Romanoff and Clint Barton are assassins. Thor is a warrior. They all have killed in the past, so it's natural that they'll use that option when facing an invading army. Superman doesn't kill. Outside of a few rare examples in 75+ years of comics, it's just not a part of his character.
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He snaps Zod's neck to save a family. That is a scene in the third act. He also has no super team to fall back on as he has a villain with the same power level as him focusing all of his attention on him.


A villain who at any point could hand been momentarily incapacitated to allow for such a scene, if the writers cared more about making their hero a hero rather than simply seeing how many buildings they could flatten.
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Counter argument.


Once Superman and Zod start fighting, find me one scene where Supes puts civilians first. In all that destruction porn, they couldn't fit in a single shot of Superman of shielding someone from an explosion or moving someone out from underneath falling rubble? In the first Avengers, you have Hulk saving an office building from the Leviathan and Cap rescuing hostages in a bank. MoS has no equivalent in its third act.
You mean to tell me nobody died in the Avengers movies? yeah right.


You wanna know the difference? Both Avengers movies made it a point to show the heroes actively saving lives.
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I didn't say it was his first option nor his gut reaction. It was what he felt he had to do. And think about it, what else was he going to do? The phantom zone projectors were all destroyed. You can't hold Zod in a prison. You can't let him go after a stern talking to and expect him not to return. Christopher Reeves killed Zod depowered in the fortress of solitude with a smile. In that he had plenty of other options yet everyone seems to ignore that.


Do I blame Superman for ultimately taking the only choice he had left? Not really. Do I blame the writers for making it his only option? Hell yes. I can write a Spider-Man story where his only logical option is to shoot Norman Osborn in the head. Doesn't mean I should.
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