Fat Boy Kyle

Plague of the North

I'm up to date on GoT.

@Uffizi

Without saying what happened, apparently the end of the most recent episode was actually significantly different to what happened in the books.

Plague of the North

Speaking of which, did anyone happen to watch the most recent game of thrones? Or rather has anyone not because I don't want to be a spoiler? xP

Plague of the North

These are exactly the kind of religious tensions that I wanted to foster >:D

...in the IC... between characters of fictional religions.

<Snipped quote by rivaan>

Earlier back there was a brief discussion between the three of you guys about being careful not to offend anyone with even the very mention of rape. I respect this kind of sensitivity but I think it's worth noting that comments such as the one above could be equally offensive to ones who identify with the so called "real life equivalent".

@Denalz

Completely true, and I'm sorry that I myself did not point out when I replied to the comment, that the Church of Light (COL) has no 'real life equivalent'. True, I did say this earlier:

I'll be adding more information shortly, and you're welcome to fill in any blanks I leave. I took inspiration from the rise of Catholicism and the decline of paganism and pantheons. There are many similarities between the Church of Light and early Catholicism, but its certainly in no way a carbon copy and I certainly don't want to offend anyone xP

@Fat Boy Kyle

But I need to make it clear that they are not the same. They have similarities yes, but The COL has similarities with several religions both real and fictional. Monotheism is certainly not an uncommon trait in religions, and neither are scriptures. The inspiration I took was about the shifting balance of beliefs, not the actual beliefs themselves.

In regards to Rivaan's comments about killing people in video games, I do think that it is unfair to say he aimed this at any real life religion. Besides, I can't think of any video games that sound like this.

Still, Denalz is completely right to say that even early Catholicism did a lot of good, and that it was only the bad that was really sensationalised. The unfortunate truth is that this sort of sensationalisation still occurs today, with western media notably portraying all Muslims as terrorists. But the reality is that the vast majority of people belonging to religions, and indeed the vast majority of those that don't, are decent kind loving people and you should not paint everyone with the same brush just because the actions of a few. The sad truth is that yes, there have been and continue to be horrible acts performed in the name of religion, but as Partisan said, that means that those people are evil not their religion. I think everyone in this RP understands that.

That is exactly the case with the fictional religions in this RP too. The wiki post and notable events section can certainly portrays a bad image, but as our missionary and baptist characters prove, the religions foster much more good than bad; its just that not all people see it that way.

I want this to be the end of the argument, at least were the OOC is concerned. No more references or discussion about real life religions, because they have nothing to do with the RP. If anyone has any further problems then they should PM me, and we will leave the OOC free of bitterness. This is normally the part where I say "Kiss and make up", but I don't think that is necessary. We're all friends here and we all want to get back to talking about lighter topics like... rape? *Sigh*

Plague of the North

Updated the wiki. Made some changes to the Church of Light. Also added Sir Chester to the CS list. Tired now :P

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@Fat Boy Kyle I think that that is fine. He wouldn't need the boats, and I'd rather not play him as a guy that can magically pull stuff out of his ass in order to solve plots.
''Well we can go to the Grey Island, but we have no boat''
''oh look suddenly one of my boats appears on the horizon lol isn't that funny''

Yeah, that's not gonna work. :p So I'm just going with - he lost all his current illegal activities due to the plague disrupting them, and since he feels like the plague might reach his estate at one point and the king is a lousy idiot, he'll have to go deal with it himself.

Give money to the consano, join an expedition.. yeah, I think he'd fancy his name in history books too. ^^

@Partisan

Plus, being the savior of the Kingdom can't be bad for business.

Plague of the North

Nice~ and yeah religion such as the church of light is usually based on some kind of scripture that may or may not be entirely fictional and just created for the benefit of the church itself rather than it's followers :3 All that's missing is for it to have a witch hunt and we are free to point the reallife equivelent

@rivaan

They're not too fond of magic. I forgot to put that in!

Plague of the North

You sneaky sneaky person. I wonder what schemes are going through your head :3

Edit: so @Fat Boy Kyle will you be bringing a character on the adventure, or you will be just a story teller?

@rivaan

Both

By the way, thanks for adding more detail on the religious side of things. Interesting that there is no book of scripture.

@Denalz

Don't know whether or not to change that and add one in. Opinions?

Orwen of Sudernlan

A chant from the Deserts in the South, where he frequently visits..
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Orwen's brown-reddish hair is his most defining feature alongside his beard. He has no out of the ordinary features and blends in perfectly well, although his ears are slightly bigger than most others' ears. His jawline is chiseled and, if it were visible, would be classified as an attractive and good looking jawline. His cheeks are somewhat thick and round, as Orwen eats well.

His body is average, nothing overly muscled but not fat either. A layer of fat prevents his muscles from shining through, but then again for a man like Orwen, muscles are not his weapon. Fear, influence and contacts are, and somehow his access to all these tools shine through in his appearance. Anyone looking at him will realize, even if they don't know him, this man is influential in a bad way.

Orwen dresses richly, dressing mostly in nice looking tunics, clothen pants with nice linings and trims and knee-high boots. Over his tunic he usually wears a leather jerkin, adorned with nice looking metal pieces, but those are mostly ornate. Over all that he'd wear a woollen cloak, for warmth and comfort, whenever he travels.

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【Full Name】
Master Orwen of Sudernlan

【Alias】
“Master”, “Woden”, “Brown”, “Thé Southerner”

【Gender】
Male

【Age】
29

【Sexuality】
Heterosexual

【Birth Place】
Southarbour, though many seem to think he is from the deserts far to the South.

【Nation/Allegiance】
Now, allegiance would infer loyalty, and Orwen isn't loyal to anyone but himself.

【Profession】
Slave trader, investor and general contact for all things illegal and dangerous.

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【Personality】

Now, Orwen isn't exactly a very friendly person, but that doesn't mean he never smiles.. He just smiles at things that others' don't smile at, such as the cry of a 2 year old baby being sold to some fat old man who lives in a castle somewhere, who has need of the babies mother. Or perhaps he would smile at the death of a man who attempted to double-cross him, to steal coin out of his pocket when everyone knew that that coin was rightfully Orwens' coin. Maybe Orwen would even smile at, say.. a slave being raped in the dead of the night, before she were to be tossed back into her shed. He would smile and say “Such is the way of life, big fish eat small fish..” while rubbing together the coins he had just been paid for the slave.

And that defines Orwen in a nutshell: a kill or be killed mentality, where everything is allowed to gain profit, survival or pleasure. Normally a pretty interesting personality trait but even more so when placed in the hands of someone who sees money in everything; yes, when you're talking about a person who would sell their own mother you're talking about Orwen of Sudernlan, who has not enslaved his own mother, but has most certainly enslaved rowdy familymembers and sold them to a filthy merchant who needed a rowingman. Or five, because ofcourse Orwen isn't evil enough to leave the children without father.. But oh, there is certainly the rumour that he's sold his own mother and Orwen hasn't attempted to disprove this statement. Fear is a powerful tool, he says.

With slavery bussiness comes a sadistic personality, if not from birth then it will certainly grow on you as you whip slaves into a line, smack them into a cage or backhand them into their shed. He's frequently taken to the prisons and slave sheds to pick an unwilling target and experiment on them, and when he says experiment he means torture them for no goal other than personal pleasure. “Experimental science” it's called, and there's always a black market to be found for some crazy person in the north who wishes to sacrifice to his gods, or some sinner in the south who wants to copulate with a dead body. Ask and you shall receive; if there's no supply then Orwen takes great pleasure in assuring that there is a supply created for you! All it takes is some fun nights in the cellar and boom! You have a dead body ready for sale.

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【History】
Orwen was truthfully born in Southarbour, though he'd hate to admit it. The place reeks of slaves, piss and shit and Orwen absolutely detests having to stay there, even if he's earning coin. His father was a poor sod, always drunk in the local inn getting it on with whores and perhaps a goat or horse if he felt like it. The relationship with his father was.. shortlived, as his father got skewered on a blade by a guardsman after the tenth time being caught satisfying himself with a local farmers' cow. As a result of his untimely death, Orwen spent most his years under tutelage of the local lowlifes, his mother not caring enough to keep him indoors. He was barely 8 when he started stealing for “the Boar”, a man that had cut more throats than he had children. He had a lot of children.

With age he rose through the ranks and as he came of age at the age of 16 he was granted leave from the mans 'company' to start his own company, franchising mostly in “goods otherwise unattainable” and his offers to clients mostly included smuggling stuff around. It wasn't until much later, when he accidentally happened upon a cheap slave girl, barely 16, that he decided on extending into slavery. Given that he'd handled a smuggling bussiness before he certainly had the fleet to undertake a slavery bussiness.

As a starting slave trader, Orwen took some years to learn the trade, but quickly became the number 1 slave trader in the entire known world, having a vast collection of suppliers and buyers. As such, if you ever wished to get “dirt” on someone, Orwen likely knew a thing or two about this person that were, say, damaging to their name. His collection of suppliers ranged from Southern deserts, to the kingdom of Dawn, to even Vahilian outlaws who sold him captured victims. As such he could get you any type of man, woman or child - ebony colored, pale skinned, dark eyes, blue eyes, green eyes, strong, beautiful, ugly or weak, mentally broken and submissive or slaves prone to bouts of uproars - the perfect slave fighter. These slaves were managed by a grand fleet of aproximately 20 ships, some small and some large enough to rival Dawnish fleets, although they always made sure to act as if they were merchants. Pair that with a wide range of bribeable officials in every major city, and you can understand why Orwen is so good at what he does.

As the years passed he amassed a fortune and stopped interfering too much personally in the bussiness, only taking a glimpse every now and then to see if he was still making profits. Currently he resides atop his mountain of coins in his private estate, somewhere on the coast between Southarbour and Sovereign, looking over the ocean while sipping on wine, watching vessels of his own fleet sail to and fro, while a slave girl or two prepare his bath. Life is good. For him, anyway..

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【Skills and Abilities】
Orwen can be very charismatic and has been trained, over the years, in talking himself and others out of things, but also in appeasing entire groups by making empty, often meaningless promises. Besides that he also possess a very rich set of contacts and information, something unrivalled throughout the kingdom (although the kings spymasters wish it weren't so). This is not neccesarily a skill or an ability, but they are certainly a way to access skills and abilities of others. Something equally as important. Besides he can swing a mace or flail pretty well and it doesn't take much skill to jam a dagger up someones skull.

Besides that, did I mention he's the biggest funder for the Consano? Money is a skill, too. Atleast if you ask Orwen.

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【Weapons/Tools and Magic】
Weapons/Tools
Orwen has a nice looking flail hanging on his left hip, attached to a loop of leather hanging from his belt. Besides that he's hidden a dagger in his left innerpocket.

Magical Spells
Magic is for entertainment slaves only. Juggle, juggle, girl!

@Partisan

Good read and in the absence of any criticism, accepted! It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the plague, as it would surely devastate his business. It would be safe to say that his fleet would either be reclaimed by the military, or destroyed by Dawn.

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Gonna add my characters tonight, plus add a little bit more info about the King and the Consano.

Plague of the North

The only reason I put this as a 'large group' rp is because in my experience there have always been drop outs. If you have like 8 players and two or three drop out then there's not as much an issue. Plus, I plan on splitting people up a bit later on >:D

Plague of the North

I'd like around eight players, but in truth I'm just as happy doing this with a smaller dedicated group. I don't think I'd want more than ten players.

Plague of the North

I've mentioned rape in the wiki, but not in any level of detail. It's a horrible subject but it's unfortunately a very real thing (even in modern times let alone medieval times), and so has a place in fiction. In all honesty I wouldn't personally have a problem with it as long you didn't go into graphic detail; we still need to abide by the guild's rules after all.

That said if anyone has a problem with it or thinks they may find it upsetting then please message me in private. And if that's the case I'll forbid the subject. But until then assume its ok.