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Greetings!

I'd like to take the opportunity and throw this particular idea up in the interest checks just to see if there is anyone who might be interested in some easy paced Elder Scrolls based mystery role play.

The basic idea is quite simple. The player characters which will number but a few perhaps three will find themselves in the midst of some organization or collective in which they have been informed of the tale of the Dragonborn's Treasure. This will of course take place a number of years after the events of Skyrim, the specifics of which will be detailed in the OOC if it gets that far. Few restrictions will be placed on characters beyond what is available in Skyrim and there will be some sort of character progression. The players will talk to NPC's and follow clues to find themselves in various locations to locate this rumored treasure for better or for worse. This of course is just a loose idea and while most of you have probably never heard of me or know of my previous exploits on the Guild before its fall I can guarentee that it will be quite interesting or at least a good read if nothing else.

On another note, I'd like to make a comment about my posting schedule to make sure everyone is on the same page before they through their card in the hat. The semester is about to begin in the next couple of weeks and I've always found having something to write is a good way to break the monotony of studying and classwork. With that being said, I did mentioned that this will be an easy paced role play. Personally, I could only guarentee posts Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. Monday and Wednesday I have class all day and the weekends I may be fairly busy depending on various things no one cares about. This would be to suggest that each round of role play would take part Tuesday to Friday and then Friday to Tuesday.

With that being said if this interests anyone, please let me know. If I can get at least two others players I will begin working on the OOC and we can get started, it shouldn't take me all that long once I get started.

Thanks,
There is a good possibility that this thread has died. It may be wise to consider pulling the plug on life support.
Well, I've tried both. Unfortunately, I don't think either option will work... I think all my character work is lost x.x
Agent B52 said
*reads case* Correction, should not be a roadmap to the future.


Apparently, quoting won't include links. Anyway... Did you read about this case on the Onion? If that's the case, perhaps I should have been more specific in my original post. Any legal discussion I partake in is most certainly derived from reliable sources if not the cases themselves or the case books and experiences I have acquired over the years. Sometimes I think the Onion needs to wise up with what they do; satire is great, but people dismiss it so easily these days. Authors like Jonathan Swift go over looked where for the time he wrote his satire "A Modest Proposal" was viewed as being terribly serious and disgusting. But hell, at least people are being taught.

wonderlandalli said
I just think that a bit of jail time would cure that Affluenza right up.


Not only would jail time for the defendant help, but also a good frying pan to the face for the judge that allowed such a bullshit defense through pretrial. Granted, there are conditions that people are might be considered more "affluent" might be prone too such as obesity, substance abuse, et cetera. These things have been viewed based on their life style and their manner of living. I think there is some British psychologist that wrote about it. So perhaps there is a little validity to the idea that growing up rich causes a lack of understanding that actions have consequences and one needs to take responsibilities for those. However, there is a line. And this is it! If a kid gets into a fight or I might even be so bold as to say that if that kid was caught stealing the alcohol he later consumed - okay let's cut the dumb ass a break and try some more rehabilitative. But, four people are dead - four! There needs to be some punitive and retributive actions taken. Now this kid gets to grow up thinking mommy and daddy will always bail him out. Go 'Merica!

HeySeuss said
Affluenza, and the embrace of the concept, also makes it harder to go after with a straight face.We need to at least make a pretense of fairness in the justice system here, otherwise the plebes will rise up with pitchforks in hand! Harrumph.


Oh that's adorable... to think, there should be a semblance of fairness in our justice system!!! Oh the days where white men and white women have an equal chance of going to jail as minority men and minority women. When children can grow up in the hood and aspire to be something other than their best friend's cell mate. But yeah, I heard about that aforementioned case the other day. Pretty crazy. But, I doubt at this point she'll be able to take the "affluenza" defense and on top of that her attorney's can't even make an equal protection act because the fact that she has had a previous DUI will make a difference. However, maybe her lawyers will make an argument like "because she is a poor minority, she was more prone to drinking and cannot be held responsible for her actions because society forced her into a position where drinking and driving under the influence are commonly accepted acts."

Quite frankly, I'm not sure what is wrong with people these days....
Greetings,

I am well aware that this particular issue has been addressed in the past. However, I have not be able to locate the thread or the link that was previously passed around and I am wondering if it still exists. I realize it is no longer as adequate as just searching through the forum as if it were the times of yore. However, if the post are still available, I would very much like to retrieve them for my own personal use.

Thank you,
Jiao Hao

The battlefield strewn with fallen bodies and foes locked in combat was a sight to behold. However, unlike those before him Jiao Hao saw a very different sight. He did not see the lacquered plates of the enemy reflecting in the sun. He did not see the steel of blades clashing against one another. Instead, the battlefield in various hues of blue, flakes of light as if embers from a fire wafting through the air. The blue light breached various openings of all shapes and sizes in the warrior’s armor. Even the grass was illuminated with its own subtle hue. But General Touzon had shown through with a greater luminescent that illuminated the landscape around him. Despite the General’s well-crafted armor, his existence on the battlefield was very apparent.

Jiao Hao flicked his wrist, wrapped his fingers around the wrist of his sword hand. He looked towards the General with a determination that would have been apparent had his eyes been readily visible. His free hand placed on the scabbard of his katana. He adjusted the weapon, drawing the hilt in front of his body. He popped the blade loose with his thumb.

He turned to Raizen standing beside him, “What would we consider life if spent in fear of those who may strike us down. How lucky we might all be to fall at the hands of such a worthy adversary?”
I just wanted to throw my two cents in that I am still here. I am still planning to participate. However, between work, school, and life my time is running a little short this week. I'm going to try and get a post up Thursday most likely in the morning. So, if anyone is waiting on my specifically like I think Raizen is, I apologize. If anyone else needs to carry on don't let me stop you.
Except the NSA isn't a branch of the US Government but an Agency of the Executive Branch...
Greetings,

Yes, they are proposing a bill to prevent this... In California, another one of the ass backwards legal states. But that aside, unfortunately, assuming the bill passes it will still only have the effect of influencing Californian court rooms and may not persuade any others to follow suit.

As for the judge being paid off... I wouldn't doubt there will be a hefty campaign contribution from the family in her near future.

All very valid points so far... but I'm surprised more people don't find this interesting.
Greetings,

Hopefully by now, we have all been paying enough attention to take note of a new criminal defense that was allowed by one Judge Boyd down in Texas. Referred to as Affluenza it is a "condition" (a term I use loosely) that denotes, because a person is raised by parents who are extremely well-off financially that said person has not come to understand that their actions have consequences or essentially, wealth buys privilege.

Allow me to begin with a little bit of background information. The child in question (whose name I will not reveal for obvious reasons,) one night had opted to steal alcohol from a local beverage store with a few of his friends and spend the evening drinking and partying. The teenager decided to drive his father's F-350, after drinking doing seventy mph in a forty mph zone. At some point during the teenagers excursion he collided with a broken down vehicle on the side of the road killing four individuals and injuring eleven others. When the teenager had his blood-alcohol content tested about three hours later it returned the result of a .24 which is three times the legal limit and suggests that his level of intoxication was perhaps upwards of a .30 upon the time of the collision.

Now, here is a little background on his home situation as I am too believe. The teenager was doing well in school, maintaining what I assume to be merit roll. They claimed him to be no less than a B-average student. It was stated that the juvenile did participate in some level of extracurricular activities although I was unable to find anything specific. There was no mention of employment or any active involvement in the community. They claim his home life to be relatively normal. His parents are married and have a good deal of wealth. There were no signs of alcohol or other drug abuse within the immediate family. There were no reports of domestic violence or any extreme issues in the home.

With that being said, it was up to the Judge to make the decision as to whether or not a defense of "Mental Disease or Defect" is an adequate defense given the facts of the case. Now, keep in mind that despite what the romanticized legal shows on the television may have us believe only a minuscule number of cases are allowed to even raise the defense in trial and a minuscule number of those cases are even won on those grounds. Malingering, or people trying to fake as though they have a mental condition is more common than people actually arguing the defense in court. And as anyone with any education in psychology can tell you, very few people can malinger well enough to effectively convince a psychologist.

Anyway, Judge Boyd in all his/her (I can't remember the judge's gender x.x sorry,) decides that this is okay. The lawyers make their arguments; the state portrays an irresponsible teenager that had stolen the lives of 4 people while the defense tries to show that if the juvenile was not so rich that he may have understood that what he was doing is wrong. As it were, the juvenile walks away without a day of jail time. He receives ten years probation and is required to spend if I remember correctly, one year in a rehabilitation facility that his parents are paying for at a grand total of $450,000 a year.

The question I pose to you all is, how do we feel about this? Thoughts, comments, concerns, questions; anything and everything is welcome assuming it is all civil and reasonable.
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