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Are you ready to be formally judged then, Enix?
@Schradinger: In regards to the notion that soul and spirit are divided, they actually aren't. I explicitly said that one is just made inactive. :p Regardless, the spell can still work.
Now, let's give both Enix and Castor their chance to respond before we overwhelm them with questions.
@Enix: I think those are suitable constraints, and I guess to explain the function of the spell, both the spirit and soul of the caster are sent to the raven (so we don't contradict ourselves, regarding the realm's mechanisms). Therefore, the caster, when using the spell, is literally a sack of potatoes, until mind and heart are returned to the caster. With this, I would say the consequences of the spell level out the functions enough that you don't need a long casting time, perhaps just a few incantations and a short ritual, but nothing inconveniently lengthy.

If you even wanted to go a step farther, you can have the spell exchange the raven's spirit for the caster's soul and spirit, meaning that while the spell is in effect, the raven has control of the caster's body, although it can't stop the spell because the raven-inside-the-caster still has no soul to do so. This is a bit of an extreme effect, but I can see some major RP potential, in regards to problems, if you take this step. "We forgot to tie up [the character] after they casted the spell. Now, the raven is going crazy and causing some problems." This is just a spontaneous idea I had; don't even consider it as a suggestion, unless you want to.

@Tatsua: Don't know why that'd even deter you, Tatsua. :p I've known you long enough to know that you're better than that, but you don't have to feel pressured to join. Do whatever you want.
@Castor: I would suggest adding comparable examples or to quantify some of his skills better. For example, you say that activating the rune on his back increases his reflexes, but to what extent? Really, in my opinion, his power is much too ambiguous in terms of its maximum limits. I like the premise, but the execution could be better defined, in other words.
@Milieu: Atlas seems much better adjusted now; I formally accept the character. I'm glad the discussion idea worked out! :D
@Enix: I guess I could allow a variation of this. Considering animal's lack a soul (as explained in the FAQ; the soul is what differentiates the humans as a higher being, different from animals), you could hypothetically use magic to transfer your soul (your consciousness) into the raven for a time. I mean, I'm not sure how else to approach it; even though, it was said before that the soul and spirit could never really be divided. I guess, we'll have to get some thinking and discussion going on the states of the spirit and soul to get this spell to function properly, within the realm and its constraints.

That said, once allowed, considering the complex task of doing this, this Sight-Spell would probably have a long time of preparation, or would not be at the full power that you first envisioned it to be. Plus, the consequences could be dire. Perhaps if the raven is killed while the caster's soul is in it, the soul is lost with the raven, resulting in the caster basically becoming incapable of higher, mental functions; basically, becoming like an animal in their own right. For clarification, I suggest reading the FAQ portion having to do with creature, life and death. particularly the section on the body, spirit and soul.
@Milieu: The way I envisioned the public discussions to work was that it would move on to the next step, that is my judgement, when the owner (or defendant, I guess) had arrived to their own final decision. I then, would judge the final decision. If unaccepted, the discussion would begin anew or the unapproved thing would just be flat out changed. If accepted, then the discussion did well :p In other words, I'm ready to make my say whenever you tell me to do so. If you are though, I'd be most convenient if you edit it into the CS now, so I can more readily understand what you decided on, rather than trying to deduce it from all the discussion posts.

@Nemaisare: The power vacuum was created because the royalty of the D'Cerf worked as follows:
  • The leadership was largely a hereditary monarchy, and was mostly patriarchal.

  • Traditionally, the heir was the eldest son of the Lord before him (the heir's father). In the case where there was no son, the daughter was made Lord (formally titled Lady), but again, the daughter's heir would be the eldest son, if one was available.

  • The High Priestess was the wife of the eldest son (that is the heir), and thus, it is a requirement that the heir marries before being allowed to rule. In the case of a Lady in rule, the High Priest was the Lady's husband. Here, the same rule applies.

  • In the case where there was no offspring, then the next immediate family would be coronated as Lord/Lady (that would be a sister or brother of the standing Lord, or even the Mother and Father of the Lord). In the event that the Lord has no immediate family who could rule, the Priestess' immediate family was chosen. The succeeding High Priestess would be the wedded spouse of whoever was given Lordship. If the only available immediate family was unwed, then this would be the only case where the Lord would be unmarried, but the Lord would be forced to wed the first available suitor to assume the role of High Priestess.


Unfortunately for the D'Cerf, the Lord and Lady (this is the name given to the ruling couple, regardless of who has what role) had no offspring and no available immediate family who could/wanted to rule. Thus, the hereditary monarchy was broken, and in turn, everyone attempted to get a claim on the open throne.
@Nemaisare: Yes, you shouldn't consider this role, for a few reasons. One, OOCly, it's gives an unfair claim to the throne since usually immediate family is given the right. Candidly though, if the mother did not want to rule, then this first point would be moot (as is the case with Shradinger's upcoming character). Two, ICly, having immediate family wouldn't have created such a large power vacuuum with the Lord and Lady's deaths. Again though, if for whatever reason the immediate family didn't or couldn't rule, then this would also be pointless. But finally, considering Lord Bayard was in his 40s, his mother would be in her early 60s (at the earliest). She would be by death's door, considering life expectancy is around 50-60 in the realm. :P

So in all honesty you could play her if:
- She didn't want to or couldn't rule.
- You want to play a character who is basically already dead.
@Schradinger: I'll open up this scrying magic to public discussion. :)
It seems this discussion is reaching a nice conclusion. If so, I need to know, so I can make a judgement on the sixth sense ability, after the sixth sense ability is adjusted in light of the discussion of course.
No one mind that IC post. It's just preparing for whenever we actually start. :p
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