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Smut VS No Smut: Where Do You Stand On the Matter?

Which end of the rake? Could get messy.

Smut VS No Smut: Where Do You Stand On the Matter?

I think overthinking things is in my nature :)

I'll just PM you with the passage. xD

Smut VS No Smut: Where Do You Stand On the Matter?

I'm sure @HeySeuss will follow this up, as the policy drafter, but I'll say if you have to wonder whether something might cross that line...don't let it see the light of day.

Use your common sense. If your common sense is broken, PM the questionable bit of writing to a Mod, and we'll use our common sense to make the determination for you.

@Ruby

I probably will do if I can't find any explicit guidance but it's hard to second-guess whether something would cross the line if I don't know where the line is. ;)

When it comes to shit like that, you got to assume that it has to be dirty in a way a bot can pick up on. If you can't see how a bot can figure it out, it isn't going to get you in trouble.

@Vilageidiotx

That seems really odd; one could write an incredibly graphic, sexually-explicit passage while avoiding commonly-used terminology* that would presumably get past Adsense, or quite a tame one by contrast using the 'wrong words'* that would get picked up.

* I'm reminded of the catchphrase of Leigh Francis (an unfunny character comedian); to "Smash somebody's back doors in", which, to my mind, is hugely explicit language bordering on the violent, despite using non-standard terminology.

Wolf Manor

Still delays. Hope you're all still out there somewhere.

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_{Sorry if you were expecting some movement when you saw fresh posts and then got bitterly disappointed.}

Smut VS No Smut: Where Do You Stand On the Matter?

Anything sexually graphic or overly sexually suggestive.

@Ruby

What is 'sexually graphic' in literary terms and how far is 'overly' sexually suggestive? In visual media, it's pretty clear: if you see genitalia in a sexual context, or people actually engaged in intercourse visible on-screen, it's sexual content, but it doesn't translate.

A film would get a very different rating for showing two people hard at it on a bed than if one of those characters recalled "I remember the time [Mary-Jane] and I were hard at it on a bed", but, in writing, there's actually very little difference in terms of what appears on the page in the context of:

[Billy-Bob] and [Mary-Jane] were hard at it on a bed.

"[Billy-Bob] and [Mary-Jane] were hard at it on a bed," said [Barbara-Anne Third-Person].

I presume that the latter is acceptable, while the first is not. But then, where are we left with genitalia in general? Genitalia appearing in visual media are not always considered 'sexual'; in the context of a medical documentary, for example. This would not get the same rating as genitalia in an overtly sexual context.

I feel like some clearer guidelines, if we have any, would be useful.

[/completely aware that this is a discussion about how members feel about use of 'smut' but it's a legit question and seemed relevant-ish]

Smut VS No Smut: Where Do You Stand On the Matter?

Do we actually have a definitive (or thumb-based) rule on what 'smut' constitutes?

The Kidnapping [DELETED]

Vincent has questions, but there is a 0% chance he's sticking his head above the parapet yet. ;)

Wink Murder

Cool, so Wade's post stands as it is. 10/10 and cheesecake all round. (Y)

Now, I can smack you all with the plotstick as soon as now, but I think it would be nice to get to know one another a little bit first.

As a general rule, if you're 'stuck' and need something more to go on, flag it up in here and I'll move things on a little.

Wink Murder

Sounds good. :)

@Gowi; would Mr Cyan have gotten involved at any point?

Wink Murder

Wade has the higher initiative, on grounds of having already written most of his post. :3

That said, there's wiggle-room to get Mr Cyan (I can't remember names or whether people officially have them yet at this stage, so I might be referring to people by their colours for a little while ^^) involved, too.

Wade, once you're done, can you throw it over to Gowi before posting to see if Mr Cyan would get involved? If Gowi says that yes he would, maybe work out between you how the post ends, and then it's Gowi's turn to muscle in. If Mr Cyan wouldn't get involved, then the post probably stands as it is.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we may quickly learn that most of the posts in this are going to be a mad scrabble amid the me-not-telling-you-what's-going-on-ness. :P