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Derpestein said
B) Within reason. Humans in equestria would be...Iffy.


Well, obviously I wasn't referring to humans, which I'm pretty sure haven't been a thing in the franchise since G1. I was more thinking along the lines of griffins and dragons and other non-pony-but-still-sentient creatures from, at the very least, the G4 canon.
VitaVitaAR said
Sorin is the one to blame, not Ba'al.... Saber already really did not like what she saw. This made it worse.... Nonon just thought it was gross.


To be honest, I'd been forgetting for a while to have Vash react to that zombie dragon thing.

But then the big dragon fight started and yeah he's been a bit too distracted to take note. I guess that'll finally change in my next post (though said post may take a while...).
Hank said
The fundamental mechanics behind it are magic, because that's what it is.


"It's not magic; it's waterbending!"



Sloth said
That sounds a little too complicated for someone to just pull off randomly. Ghazan had the benefit of (presumably) years of training, unless he was in prison for about half his life, but Bolin just sort of did it out of pure desperation. To me it just comes off as something it'd take years to even grasp the basics of, let alone use it in a combat situation. Then again Toph could do crap like turn sand into solid rock at the age of twelve so....screw it.


When asked how he did it, Bolin did say that his life being on the line "kind of helped".

I mean, the ways benders can use certain specialized types of bending (like a firebender using lightning or an earthbender bending sand, etc) strike me as sort of like skills that some people are just naturally gifted with. Theoretically, anyone can learn that skill, but some people just don't have that talent for it. Like, if you tried a certain sport and realized that you sucked at it, then you would probably (unless you had a really strong desire to become better at it) just say that you couldn't play X and just move on. That would be akin to, say, a firebender who decides he really can't bend lightening, and so they just say "I'm not a lightening bender". Meanwhile you have a friend who, despite lacking in experience just as much as you, picks up that same sport fairly quickly and realizes they sort of have a natural talent. That would be like a firebender who realizes that they can bend lightening, so they go on to call themselves a "lighteningbender" and they continue to practice and get better at lighteningbending.

Also, given how "natural talents" work in the real world, it makes sense that they can be somewhat hereditary, as well, though they don't have to be. For example, Toph basically invented metalbending, and then her daughters learned how to metalbend - and while it's sort of implied that they both inherited the skill from their mother, it's possible a lot of their talent just comes from being taught the skill, as well. For example, Lin presumably then taught the rest of the Republic City police force how to metalbend, though, going back to the natural talent thing, it would make sense to say that not every earthbender who tried out could really pick up on metalbending so easily.

Of course, that could just mean that being skilled in a certain type of bending just has to do with being skilled at bending a given element in general. For example, Azula was a lighteningbender, yes - which was a talent that Zuko didn't really have - but Azula was also just a lot more talented at firebending in general compared to Zuko, so it makes sense that she'd be able to pick up on a more advanced form of firebending. But when there are multiple "advanced versions" of a specific type of bending (like lavabending and metalbending both being types of earthbending), it makes sense to say that a talented earthbender would have a much stronger leaning towards one type than another. For example, if you're naturally athletic, it would still make sense to say that you're inclined to be more talented in one sport than another.

So, basically my interpretation is that Bolin had a natural talent for lavabending where he lacked one for metalbending. If that's the case, why did he not discover it until just then? Well firstly it probably has a lot to do with the fact that lavabending just doesn't seem to be as well-known across the Avatar-verse, and not a lot of earthbenders would've really considered it or been able to learn it from someone else. Think of it like sandbending from the original series. The sandbenders lived in the desert, so it made sense that such a skill would be common in their culture. But Toph couldn't sandbend at all, which, while probably partially due to the fact that she can't see through sand, was also probably due to the fact that she most likely isn't as familiar with sandbending - again, likely due to the fact that she seems to prefer to avoid sand in general.

So given the fact that Bolin probably wasn't really exposed to lavabending prior to meeting the Red Lotus and really didn't consider it at all until that one moment - like Bolin said, his life was on the line, which is a strong motivator. I can see how adrenaline would boost a bender's abilities, perhaps sort of 'unlocking' that ability for Bolin by allowing him to realize that he had such a skill, and just didn't think to try it until he needed to save his own life (and those of his friends).

But yeah, while bending in general is kind of a "you have it or you don't" sort of deal, and benders can strictly only bend one of the main four elements (with the obvious exception of the avatar), I feel like the specific sub-sets of a type of bending are a skill that, theoretically, any bender of that main type can learn. I mean, I basically said that Zuko wasn't a lighteningbender, but the fact that he and Iroh could just barely bend lightening by redirecting it through their bodies should say something.

Gowi said
That's a point I hadn't really thought about, I actually like this theory a lot. Though, as Sloth said that doesn't explain Bolin, but that's a whole other mess of "why". As far as Larfleeze's concept of genetics goes: I've always liked the idea, but I haven't seen much of it made sense of in the continuity. I mean that would've made Kya have an entirely unique style of waterbending if 1+1=2 but then again maybe it's not always a 100% hybrid bending gene or whatever?


And this is why it hardly makes any sense to boil bending down to hard genetics. Like others said, bending is spiritual. I mean, non-benders all over the world turned magically turned into airbenders thanks to spirit nonsense, and no common ancestry or anything was ever really implied between the chosen non-benders.

I think it makes sense for talent regarding a bending sub-type to be at least somewhat hereditary, if you subscribe to the whole natural talent idea, but not only has the canon in both series made it clear that the origins of the four main bending types are spiritual, it’s also been made fairly clear that gray areas don’t really exist between the four types, and there really never has been a canon “hybrid” bender, again with the obvious exception of the avatar, but even then, the avatar’s bending also exists for spiritual reasons, so… yeah.

I don't know, it's a mess.I still don't like waterarms or combustion girl in any form.


To be honest, I really only like Combustion Girl because she’s a callback to Combustion Man from the original series, and his bending was a really unique and interesting concept.

As for “waterarms”, a thought occurred to me while spending countless paragraphs overanalyzing the series: ever heard of phantom-limb syndrome? When amputees still sort of “feel” a certain limb even though they don’t have it anymore? They’ve discovered that this is because the parts of your brain that control lost limbs still exist even if the limb itself is gone, and they’ve used this discovery to invent high-tech prostheses that connect to an amputees brain and allow them to control the fake limb the same way they would control a real one. It’s possible that waterarms (whose real name I honestly don’t remember, either) has learned to use waterbending in a similar way. Her arms don’t exist anymore, but the part of her brain that controls her arms still does, so maybe her bending ability allows her to use water as a substitute for her arms, controlled the same way that real people control those high-tech prostheses.
So, how did it go?

Long story short: I did manage to get on TV. *applause sounds in the background*

But I figured a lot of you guys would enjoy hearing the more detailed story of what happened, so here’s that:

I suppose I should start by saying that I got hardly any sleep last night. I wasn’t even able to get back to my dorm room till like midnight, and I had to get up at 5AM to have any chance of being seen amongst the crowds. It’s worth mentioning that, while I’m used to going to bed around midnight, I also rarely need to get up before 8 due to my schedule, so I’m not exactly used to running off of this little sleep. Knowing this would happen, I made sure to prepare and buy a bottle of 5-hour energy a few days earlier. Now, I’m really not a caffeine-drinker. I think I’ve only had caffeine like once or twice before in my entire life. I don’t like the taste of coffee or the fizzy texture of soda, and I’ve never been keen on the idea of getting into the habit of drinking caffeine so much that I pretty much depend on it to wake up every morning, so, I really have no experience with/any tolerance for the stuff. But, given the fact that I knew I’d need to wake up fast, I got a bottle of caffeine that advertised that it didn’t come with a crash and that I figured would only leave a bad taste in my mouth for a few seconds.

Since I knew I wouldn’t be able to get out-the-door right away unless I could wake myself up quickly (as I would’ve needed to wake up at like 4:30 at the latest to get ready in time under normal circumstances), I wound up downing that bottle pretty much immediately after I woke up. The entire thing, not just half of it, despite it saying you should drink half a bottle for “moderate energy” and an entire bottle for “maximum energy”. Spoiler alert: this was a bad idea. (Also, it tasted even worse than I expected it to. I’m glad I got that out of the way before I brushed my teeth.)

Anywho, it at least succeeded in getting me out-the-door on time. My breakfast was one and a half poptarts, which I ate during the walk over there. I originally planned to eat both of them, but I found myself strangely not hungry rather quickly and kind of forced myself to get as far as halfway through the second one, figuring I would need the calories.

So when I got to where the filming would be happening, my initial experience was essentially this:



I couldn’t see anything and I kind of regretted not trying to show up earlier. I could only make educated guesses as to when any sort of filming was happening or even when Al Roker was simply present based on the cheering from everyone in front of me, at which point even the sign I made which I held as high as possible over my head was always at least partially obscured by the signs others had made, as well as all the cell phones hoisted in the air in an attempt to snap a picture of any of the action, and I myself was of course not visible at all.

I noticed, though, that the longer I stayed, the more I saw people giving up trying to approach the front of the crowd and worming their way out to go home or w/e. So, whenever the opportunity arose, I inched my way forward and, slowly but surely, I did start to make my way closer to the front.

I should mention, however, that they weren’t filming for the entire 3-4 hours that I was around. In fact, there were several intervals of like 30-60 minutes during which Al Roker wasn’t even around, and we were all just waiting for him to come back so they could turn the cameras back on us again. During this time, while I continued to inch closer and closer to the front of a crowd of people all packed as tightly as sardines, I started to notice that I was breathing really heavily, and also that I was feeling kind of dizzy and almost a bit nauseous. Henry said I looked super pale, which wasn’t too surprising, given everything else. Since I’m not normally claustrophobic or anything, I attributed the systems to my lack of sleep coupled with the copious amount of caffeine I consumed earlier. And, since I noticed my progress in slowly getting closer to the front and I wasn’t in any mood to give up (plus I didn’t have any room to collapse even if I wanted to), I told myself that I’d be fine so long as I just kept taking really deep breaths. These symptoms kind of came and went throughout the morning.

By the time Al Roker came back for what we knew would be the final instance, I had actually managed to make it to almost the first row — and I could actually, clearly see not just Al but also the cameras pointed on him and even the small TV pointed back at him and us which displayed what was airing live, which I didn’t even know was there for most of the morning. When finally given the opportunity, I cheered and held up my sign and even got my face on TV for at least ~five seconds, but not for much longer, as Roker’s final segment was his shortest one, so being so close to the front didn’t mean much for very long.

Now, to many of you, this sounds like a tale of disappointment and unpleasantness, but, I don’t see it as such. Given everything I went through to get there, getting on TV felt a thousand times more accomplishing than I expected it to, even when I knew I might not be visible for very long. Because the point is I did it, even if it took me until literally the last minute or so, and I feel like this little adventure made a fitting trial for my transition into legal adulthood.

So despite the fact that, not long after, I was in the dining hall, struggling to make myself eat anything substantial as I muttered “‘No 2:30 feeling’ my ass…” under my breath, and I felt like I’d kind of forgotten how to walk as I spent so long mostly standing in place and only taking baby steps when I did move, thus causing my legs to feel reeeeally weird when I left the crowd, I still considered the morning a success.

tl;dr — Best birthday ever.
My next post might take a little bit longer than usual. I apologize for that.
Hank said
Most people didn't like season 2 especially because of the ending. It's interesting that you see it as a redeeming factor.


:/ Well I certainly fail to see how the backstory about the first avatar, all done in that gorgeous, Miyazaki-esque animation style, along with all that about Rava and Vaatu, followed up by that epic final battle that ended in a huge change regarding the real world's relation to the spirit world was in any way a downgrade from ~10 episodes of really stupid love triangles, Korra's increasingly unlikable personality, Mako's uninteresting cop side-plots which I don't even remember most of (I guess because I was so bored), Lin being uncharacteristically dense, Bolin's typical brand of Sokka Lite humor in that "mover" side-plot that felt like it really dragged and wasn't as entertaining as it should've been, a villain who was way too obvious for Avatar's standards, and an overwhelming lack of spirits in a season which was misleadingly titled "Spirits".

Honestly the only other decently good part of season 2 was the first couple episodes, which was kind of intriguing with all the spirit stuff that was going on, even if it was hardly focused on for most of the episodes that followed, until the final few episodes finally gave us what the season title, the setup from the first couple episodes and the majority of Nick's advertising promised.

...Also, the twins. I did really like those waterbender twins. And Varrik, if I'm spelling his name right - or even thinking of the right guy in general. The eccentric guy who hid in that hollowed-out bear that one time - that guy.

But yeah I feel like most of season 2 was filler and it was kind of hard to get through. The only parts I really enjoyed were the first couple and final couple episodes - the latter of which blew the former out of the water.
Hank said
How on earth did you have a problem with Ming-Hua's water arms? It's one of the more creative bending applications I've seen on the show.


^ This. It's probably one of the best applications of waterbending I've ever seen, second only to bloodbending. And honestly? I think all four of those Red Lotus benders had pretty sweet designs, as well as awesome uses for bending. I love the proper introduction lava bending got, as well. I think it was very loosely alluded to in the original series, but we really haven't seen it at all since, nor do I think it ever had a real name associated with it. It's a really cool ability though. I mean, it's a type of earthbending, but it has the fluidity of waterbending and the heat of firebending, which is a pretty sweet combination. Also, Combustion Woman. Yes.

But yeah, season 3 was pretty kickass. I mean, season 2 sort of sucked (with the exception of the very end), but that's sort of understandable since the writers didn't have very much time to plan it and didn't really know what they were doing. The majority of it felt like filler that they tossed down so that they could at least focus on creating a good ending. By the time season 3 happened, though, it felt like they'd finally found their groove, and it really shows.

The first couple episodes of season 4 are out now as well, by the way, and it's kind of an awesome start to the series. o.o
8/10

I don't get the reference, but those faces are hilarious regardless. XD
Magic Magnum said
Is it Henry?


No, because Henry's well aware that all this is going on. She also came with me to the filming.

I kind of meant a friend who can actually be surprised by the whole thing.

UnendingEmpire said
Seems today's the moment of truth. Happy birthday & good luck, Kaga!


Detailed description of events coming later today.
The dragon has Time Lord powers.

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