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So... are we still waiting on Psyga to edit, or did Psyga just plan to cut out that part of his post and leave it, thus making it Rain's turn?

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Magic Magnum said
10-0-11-0-0 by 0-2

Dammit. I was gonna post that.

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Grey Star said
It's more a team-based challenge, kinda like football. You get points long as someone scores, and substitutions are available since some of the group disappeared/died.

Oh, that makes sense. Thank you.

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Dblade26 said
Interesting note, but Sorin's question is something Vash SHOULD already have an answer to and potentially not even be phased by in the slightest depending on what point in his timeline he's from, as it's near-identical to the initial problem posed by Knives about butterflies and spiders.

Oh I'm aware of the similarity to the butterfly/spider problem. I even loosely referenced it in my post. Problem is, Knives was totally right - it's impossible to save both. Vash didn't have an answer to that problem then - and I don't think he does now.

Edit: It's also slightly worse than the butterfly/spider problem because it frames Vash as the potential murderer, which I'm pretty sure Knives never brought up. I think I had originally planned to mention that in my post, but I may have forgotten to.

If he was attempting to make Vash reconsider anything at all, it really shouldn't work.

Well duh. I think I've even blatantly stated in the OOC that it'll be impossible to change Vash's mind on any of this. He's been presented with plenty of good arguments over the years as to why his logic doesn't work. But it doesn't matter - because he's dead-set in his ideals and he'll never change.

Grey Star said
@Dead Cruiser: I'm going to have to go with the others' suggestions and vote that you edit your post so that this never happened since at the moment you've thoroughly ticked off and alienated enough player characters to the point they have to attempt to kill off yours or else it would be OOC. Also the fact that this is turning into a huge cluster-ck situation and I don't want it to deteriorate any further, along with the fact that your character is powergaming to an extent.

I'll see if I can edit my post tonight, as well.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize how far back we were going. I guess I'm leaving that blank until everyone in front of me edits.

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Raineh Daze said
First one doesn't work because Ghost Rider set a precedent. The second one simply delays it.

I think Flamelord was trying to say that they can't die outside the Trials, not that they can't be killed at all. Ghost Rider was killed during a Trial. It's still possible to say at this point that everyone's temporarily immortal when a Trial is not in session.

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Raineh Daze said
It could be defused short-term, but he's gleefully admitted he's willing to kill just for his own gain and with no better reason. If he survives, it just delays further assassination attempts.

True, but... the way I see it, people seem to be acting as if the only solution is to kill him right here and right now. Yet, at the same time, I get the vibe that people don't actually want to RP that, right? So... it could easily be put off, I think, and then the Servants could try to kill him later or something. I dunno, either it gives us more time to think up a better solution or, at the very least, there'll be some buildup or drama to Sorin's death*.

*Which I say as if I have any control over that outcome, I'm now realizing. I don't want to assume Sorin will die - I'm just speaking in hypotheticals, here.

Yet this whole thing could be avoided simply by having him pose the 'I eat people' as a hypothetical situation. The guy is, by his in-universe achievements, vastly experienced and intelligent. Yet his actions right now display no comprehension of psychology, nor any consideration for what the two people he's fought beside could do.

I don't know his canon, so I can't comment much on that. Though I do find it mildly amusing how an attempt to screw with Vash could backfire so badly.

Like, at this point, Vash seems to be the only person who wouldn't want Sorin dead. Making him question his ideals probably isn't the best strategy.

*ahem* Back on topic, though,

Plus blocking both their attacks with one swing is questionable from a power perspective. Surprise attacks, both two-handed and striking harder than any human can manage, blocked with a single movement?

I do agree that that's a little godmod-y. If I had thought to analyze the situation better before posting, I probably would've put off replying so that maybe Grey Star could've said something and perhaps we could get a post edit or something. I just didn't want to awkwardly have to reply to a whole page of text after getting left behind, but now I see that I've kind of prevented that edit from happening.

Sorry about that. >.>

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I was going to say something just now along the lines of "Isn't there a way to resolve this situation and defuse the conflict without killing Sorin?".

But then I took a good look at what I had typed, and decided that arguing so many philosophical debates from Vash's perspective is clearly doing funny things to my head.

I still feel like there should be some way to avoid that, but, since I can't think of any actual solutions, I... guess I'll just leave this for the GM to resolve.

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I feel the need to point out that I'm a little bit confused regarding the logistics of throwing in new characters after the first trial has already been completed.

Wouldn't the new characters have an unfair advantage, as they'd have fewer trials to complete?

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o.o I really should get online more often.

Edit: Despite the clusterfuck, I guess I'll just have Vash react naturally.