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Yog Sothoth said
The GM said that he would make changes to his posts next time and admitted to how replied to Leonerdo, so I don't understand why you keep saying he doesn't understand what you're trying to say. I feel like your long posts sound more like an angry rant when they are that long and you are just trying to say that.Also on the subject of consequences, you're making it sound like either you don't think are enough or you don't feel like there's enough freedom in this rp

It is because Didect is making arguments that doesn't concern what's actually wrong and doesn't address HWWB's actual concerns. It sounds like you aren't actually reading into what either party is saying. Oh, and congratulations for completely dismissing him and his argument (and how it might even help others by addressing the actual problem!) by waving it off as an angry rant. That's like disregarding a woman's anger or upset by saying it's because she's on her period.

Regardless, I've made my cases and I said I'd leave. Good luck with your roleplay.
No. Read it yourself or just don't bother yourself with the conversation.

And no, DnD DMs don't decide your character's morality. Or their actions. They help you determine if you succeed.
Archmage MC said
Long post, so I'm just going to skim it...For one of your heroes, you were being insane, but unlike MC being insane by throwing cuddly, harmless things around, you were being insane throwing, while not deadly, objects that can be contrived as deadly. I don't know about the other one though, I've lost track of a few characters. but from what I can understand, your mad that people are mad at a character you made that was doing things that, if someone did that to you IRL, you'd also be mad at and dislike. Because people in character are mad at your character your going to leave? clarify because the other thing just sounds like you wanna be OP at the start.with your char. I've nerfed Light like 3 times already and MC once, and MC hasn't had nerfs called because hes discording it up. being OP is boring without just cause ya know.


I wouldn't even be able to tell you skimmed it, because you missed the point entirely.

Anyways - damn. I was planning to have Abe hang around Cordelia where they can do their thing. Frankly, HWWB was my only anchor. So I'm sorry to say I'll likely be leaving with him. See you guys around.

As a last added note, Didect, I don't appreciate being told how Abe should be run. Not what you think his morals should be, what his actions should be, how I should play his power ("If he wanted to fine control some stones you could just have him hide his hand under the table and move them that way"), or deciding what his actions are ("If it's alright with you I'll proceed as if a giant trail was made and then Abe can fight the three who are left, as well as any reinforcements they may have" [it was stated several times the floor collapsed beneath them]). By sticking around, I'm afraid my roleplaying experience is going to be hijacked.
Thanks mate. I'll keep that in mind.
MrDidact said Leonerdo, I have no problem with you and I make a habit of never letting things get personal it is just a roleplay after all.

I believe the situation was developed well enough in my descriptions to get across the idea that going all Leeroy Jenkins would be a bad move. You of course are still free to choose but your character faces the consequences. Stupid behavior gets rapidly punished in the field of combat. And your character again showed remarkable disregard for collateral damage which was commented on. Regardless your character still took out two supervillains anyway, they'd been personally teleported by Flasher instead of breaching in so you could have made the inference they were important. Considering the powers of the villains involved, a teleporter, phaser, super agile acrobat, and two unknowns you couldn't have expected to take them all out anyway.

As such what followed was a logical response of what a professional team of sueprvillains would do and now your character must be more creative or patient. However I do see your point that it may have been to hasty. I apologize if any of it seemed like a personal vendetta but that was not my intention. I'll keep your reservations in mind for the future and from now on I'll give characters more chances to correct mistakes.

I won't concern myself with the "what the character should have done" comments - it is not relevant to the actual problem and the personality of the character affects the actions.

Anyways, a likely conclusion? Maybe. But what happened was that you jumped straight to the conclusion, and have done so in such a way that you make yourself look like you think it was a 100% probability that it would happen, and executed your conclusion in such a way that the character was unable to defend himself - which is another matter worth considering, since he was within the booth and his trick was done under the table. He was concealed. Even if he was not entirely so, it would still be a stretch to pinpoint him out of the crowd of people. And a regular looking guy to boot, not decked in armor. Perhaps these super-villain's first instinct is to look for League members. But let's assume the hypothetical Abraham was forced into and say he was indeed out in the open and made it obvious in some way that he was to blame. It was assumed he'd stand there and let himself take the flying ghost attack and get kicked in the face before he was knocked out cold. How many rules forbid that? That broke nearly every rule in the book. Of course, as a GM, you aren't bound by rules. But you are responsible for creating opportunities for the players and respond to the choices accordingly step by step, and this roleplay shouldn't ought to be something to satisfy every one of your own desires and using the characters of your participants as tokens for yourself. I would be fine that he'd be unable to take them all head on, but the problem was that he wasn't given the opportunity to do anything. I was taken away the privilege to even post as Abe. That makes this sound like a game with "right and wrong choices" when it shouldn't be. It's something that discourages me from continuing, especially since it was the first response to my post, and thusly, my first impression of the roleplaying quality of this roleplay.
If you have a problem with me, MrDidact, I'd like that we get it out of the way and out in the open now.

I recognize you as the GM, and I respect that. But I've handled my own roleplays for years, and I recognize those kinds of moves as bullshit and I would at least either talk it out with my members or give them a chance to write out their responses (even if I still intended on getting my way in the end - I'd give them the benefit of writing).

This can be done via private messages, but I believe it'd be best worked here so that the other members aren't kept in the dark on the development of the roleplay.
Of course, of course. Half of the fun of playing Abe is writing out his train of thought, and I have a habit of feeling the need to describe my environment. I also saw it appropriate to go into more than just having Abe be there because it was convenient, so I wrote him in before the incident with a short sequence of events, along with a minor explanation of him being there. It makes it feel less like him being forced into a certain plan for both me and readers.

I certainly haven't forgotten about the human freezer pop, don't worry! I'm glad you're okay with Abraham already being there. Thanks.

Pfft, civilians. The end justifies the means!
I probably should've asked first, but the best place I could think of Abe being so that I could use him soon was within the restaurant being held up right now. On the flip-side, the inside struggle would make it easier for the League members to get in and end the conflict (unless everything or even just half of the situation been handled by him - that would prompt interesting dialogue between League members and the random vigilante that saved a hostage crisis, should that be the case). Though, doing it all lone wolf style seems pretty gary stu-ish, but Abe is skilled and has an environmental advantage.

Or he could just make them shit their pants via bluff/threat, should they be more easily convinced that way. "Touch one man or woman and I'll bring down this whole building on top of everyone's heads."
Macroni's. It was a pretty nice place to kick it back and relax should the mood strike you – and should you not be an exceptionally good cook,. Honestly, a nice expensive apartment in the good side of town in great and all, but he didn't exactly have the means of a well-tailored man or woman in the kitchen making Abraham his favorite meals anymore. He lived alone in Chicago, and eating shitty pre-made food was not even the last thing on his agenda. It was non-existant! Even if it was a talent that Abe had possessed (ha, yeah right! Cooking is no activity suited for a man!), surely he'd still wish to kick it back. After all, sometimes after you beat to a pulp the underworld types on the streets of Chicago, it is nice to put your feet up. And a second floor window booth was a great spot. With his feet propped upon a chair next to the booth, and his hand digging into a deep dish pizza, he could help but narrow his brow in discontent. It was a little cold! Was the pizza truly freshly baked this time? Did it sit? Was it stale? Now, Abe's palate wasn't so tuned as to figure out what exactly was wrong, but he had engaged in enough fine dining in his experience to know when something ain't right. But the problem with a lengthy rant about how the dish wasn't ideally served was that he was feeling particularly lazy and subdued this day (and perhaps even slightly frisky ands sexually charged, as he noted while he stared off into a passing woman's curvature) and that the service didn't quite act as personal assistance for their own vices, or even recording devices, for Abe's rants were quite lengthy should he conjure the energy to perform such.

He downed half of a black cup of joe. The real drink of men! The real drink of men assuming you wished to remain sober. Delicious, powerful, and isn't weakened by the likes of cream and sugar – and Abe wasn't a “puts-cream-and-sugar-into-his-coffee-kinda-guy”. A black coffee was his drink of choice. But even better? Cuban coffee. Unfortunately, a half-baked Italian restaurant in Chicago wasn't a place to obtain Cuban coffee. Half-baked... half-baked... why did he come here again? Was it a pretty nice place? Eh, suppose so, Abe always figured. The food was just okay. Really, it was the atmosphere. But what restaurant was a restaurant that was all atmosphere and no food? Good God, when put that way, you might as well call it a casino! But even casinos have pool boards and roulettes and other gambling games! It was this sudden point A to point C epiphany that led Abraham to exclaim loudly, “what a shitty restaurant!” before he tossed the ceramic coffee mug at the wall on the other side of the restaurant.

Whether it be dumb luck or divine intervention or neither, the shattering cup was overpowered by the comparatively deafening explosions that came with the posse shooting up the building downstairs and the synchronized obliteration of the windows a couple tables down. In the span of ten seconds, the upstairs was stormed by five people, and a whole mob he couldn't count from where he was currently. The sudden bombardment was enough to jump-scare him and prompt him to clumsily fall over the bench seat and under the table. The natural reaction of getting up was of course thwarted by his head striking the bottom of the table! Instilling the jarring of several plates and empty glasses and a glass of ice water. The brought forth a whining groan as he rubbed the back of his head. Ugh, hopefully no cute girls around saw that. During his time recovering and rubbing the back of his head, he managed to pick out some words from downstairs. Along with the obvious gunfire from before, something was said about “stay in your...”, “quiet...”and “burn... down.” Obviously, nothing good.

Most of Abe's crime-fighting was street stuff. This, though? This actually sounds like loads of fun! He'd have to play it smart though. After all, there were quite a few people playing this game with him... but Abe never lost. It'd be okay in the end.

Now, how was this place, really? They were in downtown Chicago. Most of these places were brick houses. And brick houses were nice – sort of. Adobe brick houses had rustic charm, and many places and many restaurants that were made of such adobe bricks were considered valuable for their real estate value and the price it took to build it. And Macroni's was all about atmosphere. Of course Macronu's was a brick house! He looked at it when he walked in! What did he think the floors and walls were made of, marble? Oh gosh, no, full marble restaurants is royalty stuff. Brick is more Chicago style. And brick was fair game.

Sticking his head out of his booth, Abe checked out the upstairs goons. Five? Just five? Oh please, what a joke. And from the sounds downstairs, they secured the building. They had him surrounded? Those poor bastards. This was a hostage situation! Well, of course. The shooters WERE the hostages! Well, they will be. Hell, why not – they are! They just don't know it yet. He smiled to himself rather smugly before he retracted his head back into the booth where he stretched his neck and arms, prepping himself for the wonderful surprise he had in store for the lot of them. He took a deep, relaxing breathe before he stomped his foot onto the ground beneath the table, where Abe expected he was obscured from the vision of the assailants. From there, the impact carried its way across the floor. The bricks and stone of the floor and its support beneath the five upstairs was reconstructed and fell apart, causing a cave-in within the restaurant where Abe expected the gang members to be caught off guard by the surprise attack (the floor falling apart beneath them – surely not the kind of resistance they'd be expecting!) and fall with the chunks of stone one story down.
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