Mega Garchomp is definitely another one of my favorite Mega Evolutions. It can usually last through a few regular damaging attacks, but it's when the other pokemon has a supereffective move that his lowered speed really irks me.

Mr Allen J, That was in response to your query about the actual hostage situation in Maroni's.

Sam, Yep the one Vita iced before.

Leonerdo, I have no problem with you and I make a habit of never letting things get personal it is just a roleplay after all.

I believe the situation was developed well enough in my descriptions to get across the idea that going all Leeroy Jenkins would be a bad move. You of course are still free to choose but your character faces the consequences. Stupid behavior gets rapidly punished in the field of combat. And your character again showed remarkable disregard for collateral damage which was commented on. Regardless your character still took out two supervillains anyway, they'd been personally teleported by Flasher instead of breaching in so you could have made the inference they were important. Considering the powers of the villains involved, a teleporter, phaser, super agile acrobat, and two unknowns you couldn't have expected to take them all out anyway.

As such what followed was a logical response of what a professional team of sueprvillains would do and now your character must be more creative or patient. However I do see your point that it may have been to hasty. I apologize if any of it seemed like a personal vendetta but that was not my intention. I'll keep your reservations in mind for the future and from now on I'll give characters more chances to correct mistakes.

Doppler's Theme Song:


Because of his greed for power, since he has no power of his own. Give into me is perfect for his want for what other people has, and the nature of the song is perfect for how he views the abilities of the other supers.

One's Theme Song:


The immensity of Jupiter pales in comparison to the vastness of the universe, but the sounds of Jupiter are perfect ambient noise for one such as One.

This is harder than I thought.

You mean posting youtube videos?

You put it like this:

[ youtube ] the part after v= [ /youtube]

No, finding good theme songs. I know how to link them. :P

so unless someone comes in and helps Hot Rod he'll possibly suffocate to death.

MrDidact said Leonerdo, I have no problem with you and I make a habit of never letting things get personal it is just a roleplay after all.

I believe the situation was developed well enough in my descriptions to get across the idea that going all Leeroy Jenkins would be a bad move. You of course are still free to choose but your character faces the consequences. Stupid behavior gets rapidly punished in the field of combat. And your character again showed remarkable disregard for collateral damage which was commented on. Regardless your character still took out two supervillains anyway, they'd been personally teleported by Flasher instead of breaching in so you could have made the inference they were important. Considering the powers of the villains involved, a teleporter, phaser, super agile acrobat, and two unknowns you couldn't have expected to take them all out anyway.

As such what followed was a logical response of what a professional team of sueprvillains would do and now your character must be more creative or patient. However I do see your point that it may have been to hasty. I apologize if any of it seemed like a personal vendetta but that was not my intention. I'll keep your reservations in mind for the future and from now on I'll give characters more chances to correct mistakes.

I won't concern myself with the "what the character should have done" comments - it is not relevant to the actual problem and the personality of the character affects the actions.

Anyways, a likely conclusion? Maybe. But what happened was that you jumped straight to the conclusion, and have done so in such a way that you make yourself look like you think it was a 100% probability that it would happen, and executed your conclusion in such a way that the character was unable to defend himself - which is another matter worth considering, since he was within the booth and his trick was done under the table. He was concealed. Even if he was not entirely so, it would still be a stretch to pinpoint him out of the crowd of people. And a regular looking guy to boot, not decked in armor. Perhaps these super-villain's first instinct is to look for League members. But let's assume the hypothetical Abraham was forced into and say he was indeed out in the open and made it obvious in some way that he was to blame. It was assumed he'd stand there and let himself take the flying ghost attack and get kicked in the face before he was knocked out cold. How many rules forbid that? That broke nearly every rule in the book. Of course, as a GM, you aren't bound by rules. But you are responsible for creating opportunities for the players and respond to the choices accordingly step by step, and this roleplay shouldn't ought to be something to satisfy every one of your own desires and using the characters of your participants as tokens for yourself. I would be fine that he'd be unable to take them all head on, but the problem was that he wasn't given the opportunity to do anything. I was taken away the privilege to even post as Abe. That makes this sound like a game with "right and wrong choices" when it shouldn't be. It's something that discourages me from continuing, especially since it was the first response to my post, and thusly, my first impression of the roleplaying quality of this roleplay.

Didact, I don't really feel like that's a fair assessment. Abe's actions weren't Leeroy Jenkinsy in the traditional sense-he was operating alone, but he didn't rush headfirst into combat in order to intentionally screw things up for other characters. Perhaps you didn't mean it in that regard, but Leeroy Jenkins implies he was intentionally trying to tank the RP for the other characters, which I don't feel he was-to me, he was simply approaching a typically-delicately-handled scenario with brute force, which honestly seems more in line with the creativity you said he should've functioned with. In fact, if I'm reading it correctly, there's no way the villains should've been able to tell that it was he who caused the attack, as it would've looked like the second floor simply collapsed. Saying that stupid behavior gets punished in the field of combat isn't really accurate either, given that (and I'm not calling anyone out, I'm just saying) we've had Agnes run off on her own to throw hand grenades at an army of zombies, Hot Rod charge headfirst into the fray, my own character run off on her own, and your own Zenith spearheading the assault, and nothing bad has happened to them, despite the fact they're up against a small army, comprised of hardened criminals and superpowered villains. The army would've been expecting an attack from superheroes as well; the restaurant crew likely never anticipated the floor falling through, and even professionals can be caught off-guard. Surely someone in the chaos would've made a break for the wide-open doors, which would've drawn the attention of the villains, rather than knowing it was Abe-unless their powers enable them to sense the usage of powers, which, while acceptable as a plot twist (it wouldn't be fun to know what our opposition's capable of), I still think Abe should've been given a fighting chance to at least flee the scene, rather than be abducted and put out of the fight indefinitely. Unless the phaser woman's power entails knocking people out with a single kick, there's also no way she could've incapacitated Abe so easily-he's an experienced street fighter and able to turn his body to stone at a moment's notice. It seems more likely she would've broken her foot against his head rather than her foot knock him unconscious.

Remarkable disregard for collateral damage I also don't see a problem with. Having VTOL's firing miniguns at a prison? I feel like there'd be a bit of collateral damage involved with that-not in the same sense of Abe collapsing a building, sure, but I feel like a small fleet of airships, a bunch of superheroes and supervillains duking it out, and the most powerful man on Earth trying to contain the situation causes some collateral damage. A lightning bolt strikes the prison walls? Sends bricks flying for miles. So on and so forth.

Having (and again, not trying to call anyone out) Agnes and Cordelia as members of the League seems to imply collateral damage is acceptable. I fail to see why the collateral damage was an issue-there's no rule against killing innocents or having to behave like an orthodox, straight-laced hero. If he'd caused an earthquake and killed everyone within the building, he'd have taken out a few innocent lives, probably killed himself in the debris, but still gotten the job done. Not saying that's morally right-and you've made obvious your disdain for antiheroes-but I still don't feel like it's fair to curtail his options while simultaneously telling him to be creative. Calling out Leonerdo for causing too much collateral damage is unfair-within the context of the RP, if he were kicked out of the League for what he did (or at least investigated), that would be understandable, but to be brutally honest it feels like Leonerdo found a way around the hostage situation and, given that it didn't fit with your plan for how that scene played out, his character was knocked out of the equation. It admittedly makes me question my own character's future in this RP. If you want this to be a very story driven RP, that's okay, and I'm happy to operate that way, but we were told in the OP that player choice was going to play a considerable role in the formation of the plot and that's been brought into question with how Abe was dealt with, along with how quickly the bomb threat earlier was brushed over.

Saying "you couldn't have expected to take them all out anyways" is somewhat alarming, as that would mean he was supposed to have been metagaming in order to RP properly. Given that Abe was in the restaurant, Abe's personality is one of arrogance and cockiness, and he's an experienced combatant, it is entirely in character for him to act the way he did. If you wanted this to be strictly a go-in-and-get-hostages scenario, I feel like it would've been fair to ask Leonerdo to post again, being outside the restaurant rather than on the inside, instead of putting him out of the game in the matter he was. I think we're fine with some constraints on the RP, that's totally understandable, but this one in particular is a bit of a blindside, especially given similar "Leeroy Jenkins" activities (pulling out a detonator in a room full of supers, charging headlong into battle, etc) have been allowed to carry out naturally whereas this was shut down somewhat abruptly. Futhermore, telling him he couldn't have expected to take them all out anyways implies he had no chance at all, which is honestly making me question the future of this RP. Will my characters be shut down, regardless of creative plans and tactics, if deemed necessary for the story? If so, I'd like to now right now, as to me it seems like a competent fighter with copious amounts of strength-with a hell of a sneak attack-stands a fair chance. While I can't comment on the powers of the two unknowns, it seems he could've easily destroyed the acrobat, taken the teleporter with a little work, and probably eventually worn down the phaser, or at least forced the phaser to retreat (thus saving the hostages). He may have been outnumbered, but he certainly wasn't outgunned. However, I think the main complaint Leonerdo has is that we can discuss the hypotheticals of this situation all we want, but he didn't get a chance to carry it out.

I have to share his concern, as I'm willing to indulge in a bit of our actions being curtailed and shaped towards a certain conclusion for the sake of a plot, but as long as it's in-character and believable, I feel like we should be able to witness the repercussions of those actions, and Leonerdo wasn't really given that chance.

Oh my god, look at all this text. You could just be primitive and just say: "Hey, he wouldn't do this."

Jesus.

Yog Sothoth said
so unless someone comes in and helps Hot Rod he'll possibly suffocate to death.

Where is he again? Since we changed one of Light's moves, she'd be able to assuming your nearby.

I have to agree with LeeRoy guys, you should take this to the PMs if you're going to have long posts like that in the OOC

I actually disagree. This is important for the future of the RP so we can avoid things like this coming back up. Having it out here isn't a bad idea

To be fair, most people will just skim that post, like I did, so eh, their effectiveness is questionable until its paraphrased or summerized.

Also like I asked yog, where is Hot Rod? Anywhere near Light?

Archmage MC said
Where is he again? Since we changed one of Light's moves, she'd be able to assuming your nearby.

He's fighting Vacuum and I think Olympia is close by as well as Volt.

Yog Sothoth said
He's fighting Vacuum and I think Olympia is close by as well as Volt.

OK, shes nearby. Yay, I can do a longer post! I'll start writing one up.

Abysse said
I just realized...Why have none of us grabbed theme songs for our heroes? LAME. YOU'RE ALL LAME.

Funny you should mention that, I got the distinct impression that Killjoy's would be "Cherry Bomb" by Joan Jett.

Or Bangarang by Skrillex. I think that one would suit Killjoy quite well.

OK Yog, posted. Hope I didn't go too far there, but I will say, Kidney punches hurt like hell. Also, not sure if I should continue that, or what. I'm not sure what the plan is or the rules are for these villains.

For themes.... I only really know rock/metal stuff from the 90s or video game music, so maybe Blitzkrieg for killjoy is my guess? My repetuare of songs is very shallow compared to most of you.

Appriciate any song ideas for my chars, but if you can't think of any, probably my fault for not fleshing them out more xd.